Pirate copy of XP Home

[Tim]

Possibly not the right newsgroup, in which case my apologies in advance.

I live in Spain, and a couple of months ago, I bought a perfectly legitimate
copy of XP Home for a niece's computer. At the same time, my son-in-law
bought a supposedly legitimate copy from someone on Ebay (.es).

(Need I say more?)

Anyway, the obvious happened; a pirate copy of XP Home turned up with a
photocopy of a licence; my son-in-law is out 75 euros, Ebay couldn't care
less, and the legal process in Spain is so tortuous that it's just not worth
the hassle.

HOWEVER; I notice that it's still going on. Now, ordinary fraud, I doubt
Microsoft is interested in; but someone selling pirate copies of XP home
over the internet? So my question is; is there a specific department or
web-site I can write to, in English, to see if any action can be taken
against these crooks?



Tim

 

[Will Denny]

Hi Tim

Please try here:

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/Reporting.mspx

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Reporting Piracy:
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/Reporting.mspx

 

[Tim]

Thanks.

Tim

 

[Jim Macklin]

EBay cares, email them.
eBay Fraud Reporting
If you are unable to resolve the problem, you can file a
Fraud Report through
the online ... SafeHarbour - to report possible misuse on
eBay (for example, ...
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| Possibly not the right newsgroup, in which case my
apologies in advance.
|
| I live in Spain, and a couple of months ago, I bought a
perfectly legitimate
| copy of XP Home for a niece's computer. At the same time,
my son-in-law
| bought a supposedly legitimate copy from someone on Ebay
(.es).
|
| (Need I say more?)
|
| Anyway, the obvious happened; a pirate copy of XP Home
turned up with a
| photocopy of a licence; my son-in-law is out 75 euros,
Ebay couldn't care
| less, and the legal process in Spain is so tortuous that
it's just not worth
| the hassle.
|
| HOWEVER; I notice that it's still going on. Now, ordinary
fraud, I doubt
| Microsoft is interested in; but someone selling pirate
copies of XP home
| over the internet? So my question is; is there a specific
department or
| web-site I can write to, in English, to see if any action
can be taken
| against these crooks?
|
|
|
| Tim
|
|

 

[Brian Cryer]

Officially ebay may care but the reality is that they don't. They used to,
but now if you e-mail them their official line is that unless you are the
copyright holder (i.e. in this case Microsoft, not you or me) then they
won't do anything. That's my experience. Please prove me wrong!!! I get
quite annoyed given the number of people selling pirate stuff on ebay. I'm
in the habit now of emailing sellers to ask, but I've had guarantees of
something being genuine which then turned out to be pirate.

I've not dealt with Microsoft, it would be nice to think there were a little
more pro-active but given the masses of pirate Microsoft stuff on ebay I'm
dubious ...

Brian.

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

The recent Supreme Court rulings may cause ebay to change it's "unofficial"
policy. If someone is doing something illegal on ebay (selling illegal
copies of Windows XP), then ebay can be held liable if it knows about it
(your email). I would suggest not only emailing ebay. but also the
Microsoft antipiracy group, as well as the Attorney General's office in your
state. Granted, nothing may come of it, but if the Supreme Court were to
hold ebay to the same standards as the P2P sharing networks, then ebay can
be prosecuted for allowing know illegal activity to continue.

Bobby

 

[kurttrail]

The recent Supreme Court rulings may cause ebay to change it's
"unofficial" policy. If someone is doing something illegal on ebay
(selling illegal copies of Windows XP), then ebay can be held liable
if it knows about it (your email). I would suggest not only emailing
ebay. but also the Microsoft antipiracy group, as well as the
Attorney General's office in your state. Granted, nothing may come
of it, but if the Supreme Court were to hold ebay to the same
standards as the P2P sharing networks, then ebay can be prosecuted
for allowing know illegal activity to continue.
Bobby

Wrong. The Grokster case is about actively encouraging piracy.

The Supremes didn't make file-sharing illegal. What it did was hold
companies accountable that market filesharing tools as copyright
infringement tools.

The problem with acting on non-copyright owners complaints is that there
are many people that complain erroneously. eBay would spend more time
investigating complaints, than making money.

Personally, I wouldn't buy anything through eBay.


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[Alias]

When you consider that a bonafide OEM of Windows XP Home goes for 80 EUR in
Spain, yeah, you got ripped off.

 

[Guest]

Here's the link to report piracy to Microsoft -
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/Reporting.mspx

I'd also suggest reporting it to eBay and to PayPal

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Possibly not the right newsgroup, in which case my apologies in advance.

I live in Spain, and a couple of months ago, I bought a perfectly legitimate
copy of XP Home for a niece's computer. At the same time, my son-in-law
bought a supposedly legitimate copy from someone on Ebay (.es).

(Need I say more?)

Anyway, the obvious happened; a pirate copy of XP Home turned up with a
photocopy of a licence; my son-in-law is out 75 euros, Ebay couldn't care
less, and the legal process in Spain is so tortuous that it's just not worth
the hassle.

HOWEVER; I notice that it's still going on. Now, ordinary fraud, I doubt
Microsoft is interested in; but someone selling pirate copies of XP home
over the internet? So my question is; is there a specific department or
web-site I can write to, in English, to see if any action can be taken
against these crooks?



Tim

Forward the pertinent information (link to the sale, etc) to
(e-mail address removed).


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[Tim]

You're right - how did you know? 79 Euros I paid, in fact. So S-I-L was had
both ways.

And take it from one who knows - ebay don't give a toss. This guy's
activities have been reported to Ebay; who did nothing.


Tim

 

[Alan Smith]

Do you have a Trading Standards or equivalent government body? What do they
say?

You're right - how did you know? 79 Euros I paid, in fact. So S-I-L was
had both ways.

And take it from one who knows - ebay don't give a toss. This guy's
activities have been reported to Ebay; who did nothing.


Tim

 

[Alias]

In Spain, any theft under 300 EUR is not considered a crime but a "falta",
comparable to a traffic ticket in the USA. The OP has lost 79 EUR and should
just chalk it up to experience and move on.
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Do you have a Trading Standards or equivalent government body? What do
they say?

 

[Alias]

You can get a bonafide OEM copy of XP from

http://www.appinformatica.com/ (84 EUR)

or

http://www.pcbox.com/inicio/default.asp?lan=es&cnt=es (83.16 EUR)
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You're right - how did you know? 79 Euros I paid, in fact. So S-I-L was
had both ways.

And take it from one who knows - ebay don't give a toss. This guy's
activities have been reported to Ebay; who did nothing.


Tim

 

[McSpreader]

You're right - how did you know? 79 Euros I paid, in fact. So
S-I-L was had both ways.

And take it from one who knows - ebay don't give a toss. This
guy's activities have been reported to Ebay; who did nothing.


Tim

When you consider that a bonafide OEM of Windows XP Home goes
for 80 EUR in Spain, yeah, you got ripped off.

Contact the local Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/spain/

 

[Alias]

You're right - how did you know? 79 Euros I paid, in fact. So
S-I-L was had both ways.

And take it from one who knows - ebay don't give a toss. This
guy's activities have been reported to Ebay; who did nothing.


Tim



Contact the local Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/spain/

And what, pray tell, do you think Microsoft would do?

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Absolutely nothing if Microsoft is not informed.

 

[McSpreader]

And what, pray tell, do you think Microsoft would do?

They might implement their stated actions, and maybe prevent other
people being suckered by the same scam.
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/Reporting.mspx

 

[Alan Smith]

And what, pray tell, do you think Microsoft would do?

They can't do anything if they are not told. They have the opportunity to do
something if they are told.