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[The Old Bloke]

I'm using Vista Home Premium

This has fixed nearly all my permissions

http://dazzy.org/vista/TakeOwn.zip

 

[Malke]

I'm using Vista Home Premium

This has fixed nearly all my permissions

hxxp://dazzy.xxx/vista/TakeOwn.zip

I don't know what you're playing at, but that link (which I munged) does
an automatic direct download of the zip file without any identification
whatsoever. I'm not going to risk opening it, even though I don't run
Windows. You could be an innocent really trying to help other Vista
users or you could be an Evil Spammer/Virus Spreader.

In any case, don't do this again. If you really are a good guy and want
to suggest a program that helped you, put a link to the product's
homepage along with a description of what the program does and how it
helped you.


Malke

 

[The Old Bloke]

I don't know what you're playing at, but that link (which I munged) does
an automatic direct download of the zip file without any identification
whatsoever. I'm not going to risk opening it, even though I don't run
Windows. You could be an innocent really trying to help other Vista users
or you could be an Evil Spammer/Virus Spreader.

In any case, don't do this again. If you really are a good guy and want to
suggest a program that helped you, put a link to the product's homepage
along with a description of what the program does and how it helped you.

I'm playing at nothing! This has worked for me., without a problem! I'll
do what I want next time. There is a positve history of this from othher
forum members.

I asked this question a couple of days ago and was told that it was not
possible with Visata, and then told to "Get used to it" Well it it is not
true. This does work. If you don't trust it, your problem, not mine.

Doug

 

[KristleBawl]

The point is still valid. Hackers try to get people to download and run
stuff all the time, sometimes by linking directly to the file.

If you want people to listen to you, you should try to be a little more
sensitive to security concerns.

A link to a page where the file is described and you have the option to
download it is ok, but linking directly to a file is a bad idea.

KB

 

[Bob Eyster]

On the same note, who to say that any link isn't spoofed and points to a
Trojan/Virus. It's a change you take

 

[Malke]

On the same note, who to say that any link isn't spoofed and points to a
Trojan/Virus. It's a change you take

Yes, of course but you can lessen the chance by not immediately
downloading a file. I stand by what I said which had nothing to do with
whether the program in question worked for the OP and everything to do
with not being harmful to others. You may be computer-savvy but many
others who post here are not and they should not be blindly downloading
stuff.

Since the OP has stated that he will do "whatever he wants" and never
mind being polite and a good Usenet citizen, he goes on my "troll list".


Malke

 

[Kerry Brown]

I'm using Vista Home Premium

This has fixed nearly all my permissions

http://dazzy.org/vista/TakeOwn.zip

As Malke pointed out no one who knows anything about computers will blindly
download a .zip file because someone on a newsgroup said it "fixed" some
indeterminate problem. I have no idea what this program does but from the
name and what little you told us I'm guessing it changes some file
permissions to make Vista act more like XP. This will seriously compromise
the security in Vista and is not recommended unless you have the skills to
return the file system to it's default state if needed. Many of the built in
programs and features in Vista require the default file permissions to work
properly. In the future as programs, drivers, utilities, whatever are
written for Vista having the file permissions in an unknown state may cause
many unexplained problems that will be impossible to track down. I'm not
saying changing file permissions is inherently bad. I am saying posting a
link to a program that makes unknown changes to file permissions and urging
other people to run it is a really bad idea. To do so in a newsgroup
frequented by many beginning computer users is very irresponsible.

 

[Adam Albright]

As Malke pointed out no one who knows anything about computers will blindly
download a .zip file because someone on a newsgroup said it "fixed" some
indeterminate problem. I have no idea what this program does but from the
name and what little you told us I'm guessing it changes some file
permissions to make Vista act more like XP. This will seriously compromise
the security in Vista and is not recommended unless you have the skills to
return the file system to it's default state if needed. Many of the built in
programs and features in Vista require the default file permissions to work
properly. In the future as programs, drivers, utilities, whatever are
written for Vista having the file permissions in an unknown state may cause
many unexplained problems that will be impossible to track down. I'm not
saying changing file permissions is inherently bad. I am saying posting a
link to a program that makes unknown changes to file permissions and urging
other people to run it is a really bad idea. To do so in a newsgroup
frequented by many beginning computer users is very irresponsible.

As bad as most MVP's running their mouth giving bad information? Even
beginners to computers quickly learn MVP often stands for Microsoft
shill, blowhard or wannabe.

Define work "properly", like you mean the file system is suppose to
crawl with copying files or moving them taking way longer than under
XP? Maybe you mean Vista saying it needs to close Windows Explorer
over and over. How about UAC nagging about you wanting to delete a
desktop shortcut? Media Player constantly crashing? Unable to write
files to the root drive? So many "improvements" had to guess which one
you mean.

Pretending Vista works great is way more irresponsible.

 

[Frank]

As bad as most MVP's running their mouth giving bad information? Even
beginners to computers quickly learn MVP often stands for Microsoft
shill, blowhard or wannabe.

Always open with an insult. How predictable you are!

Define work "properly", like you mean the file system is suppose to
crawl with copying files or moving them taking way longer than under
XP? Maybe you mean Vista saying it needs to close Windows Explorer
over and over. How about UAC nagging about you wanting to delete a
desktop shortcut? Media Player constantly crashing? Unable to write
files to the root drive? So many "improvements" had to guess which one
you mean.

I guess you missed that turn marked, "steeper learning curve ahead", huh?

Pretending Vista works great is way more irresponsible.

But pretending you actually know how to use Vista is "priceless".
Frank
ROTFLMAO

 

[The Old Bloke]

On the same note, who to say that any link isn't spoofed and points to a
Trojan/Virus. It's a change you take

The difference is that I first checked the reliability of the .zip file, and
checked with other users that it was all OK on their system. I don't
consider I am irresponsible. I knew the risks if I hadn't fully checked it.

On my PC it has become a breathe of fresh air. Mine is a stand alone home
PC. MS should have disabled all this lock down for "Home" Versions. BTW,
Systems people hate this mod. How do I know? I used to be one before I
retired.

Regards

 

[The Old Bloke]

Bye Bob.

Yes, of course but you can lessen the chance by not immediately
downloading a file. I stand by what I said which had nothing to do with
whether the program in question worked for the OP and everything to do
with not being harmful to others. You may be computer-savvy but many
others who post here are not and they should not be blindly downloading
stuff.

Since the OP has stated that he will do "whatever he wants" and never mind
being polite and a good Usenet citizen, he goes on my "troll list".


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

 

[Kerry Brown]

The difference is that I first checked the reliability of the .zip file,
and checked with other users that it was all OK on their system. I don't
consider I am irresponsible. I knew the risks if I hadn't fully checked
it.

On my PC it has become a breathe of fresh air. Mine is a stand alone home
PC. MS should have disabled all this lock down for "Home" Versions. BTW,
Systems people hate this mod. How do I know? I used to be one before I
retired.

Regards

If you know what the file does then why not tell us what it does rather than
a generic statement that it fixes everything.

 

[Adam Albright]

I guess you missed that turn marked, "steeper learning curve ahead", huh?

Really? When I quickly learned what's new in Vista in oh about a hour,
probably less, and you keep bragging it took you six months. What a
doofus you obvious are.

But pretending you actually know how to use Vista is "priceless".
Frank
ROTFLMAO

You remain a horse's rear end. That's your thing Frankie. Just some
ass.

Are you next going to trying to lie your ass off the things I
mentioned aren't true and common problems nearly all users experience?
Just wondering how stupid you really are. I think we already know.

 

[Frank]

Really? When I quickly learned what's new in Vista in oh about a hour,
probably less, and you keep bragging it took you six months. What a
doofus you obvious are.



You remain a horse's rear end. That's your thing Frankie. Just some
ass.

Are you next going to trying to lie your ass off the things I
mentioned aren't true and common problems nearly all users experience?
Just wondering how stupid you really are. I think we already know.

Let's put it this way you stupid sack of sh*t. I'm not near as stupid as
you wish I was and you're nowhere near as smart as you think you are.
Loser moron!
Frank

 

[The Old Bloke]

If you know what the file does then why not tell us what it does rather
than a generic statement that it fixes everything.

Try it Kerry. I did

I don't have time to do it for you

 

[The Old Bloke]

Try it Kerry. I did

I don't have time to do it for you

Any MVP should be able to look at it and report to the NG. Maybe MVPs don't
want people to know how to overcome MS protection in Vista?

Kerry, I have worked as a System Admin. I accept that it is necessary for
enterprises to control their PCs. But should this should extend to buyers
of "Home" versions? What I posted was fully tested. But I bet you won't
post that it is safe. ????? Will you ????

 

[Adam Albright]

Let's put it this way you stupid sack of sh*t. I'm not near as stupid as
you wish I was and you're nowhere near as smart as you think you are.
Loser moron!
Frank

I'll let others decide who the dumb one is. After all, you're the one
that can't stop boasting you "mastered" Vista in six months but even
then only with help from "consultants". Odd, most people can easily
figure out what's different, changed and moved around in oh about a
hour or so and by themselves. Six months with help? ROTFLMAO!

Sure Frankie you're a real Einstein for sure. How long did it take you
get past the sixth grade? Three tries? With consultants?

 

[Kerry Brown]

Any MVP should be able to look at it and report to the NG. Maybe MVPs
don't want people to know how to overcome MS protection in Vista?

Kerry, I have worked as a System Admin. I accept that it is necessary for
enterprises to control their PCs. But should this should extend to buyers
of "Home" versions? What I posted was fully tested. But I bet you won't
post that it is safe. ????? Will you ????

No I won't. If you really were a system administrator you would realise how
stupid it is to download an unknown zip file and run whatever is inside of
it.

 

[Frank]

I'll let others decide who the dumb one is. After all, you're the one
that can't stop boasting you "mastered" Vista in six months but even
then only with help from "consultants". Odd, most people can easily
figure out what's different, changed and moved around in oh about a
hour or so and by themselves. Six months with help? ROTFLMAO!

Sure Frankie you're a real Einstein for sure. How long did it take you
get past the sixth grade? Three tries? With consultants?

Well, not surprising, you totally failed to read or comprehend what I
said, in my original post..."XP no more...!".
That's an exact quote of the subject line.
We dumped XP after dual booting it and Vista for 6 months. It did't take
6 months to master Vista. Undoubtedly we could have gotten rid of XP
months earlier but we were also bringing new software on line (Adobe CS3
Master Collection for example) and wanted to keep older software (Adobe
CS2 for example) available and it was on XP. We are constantly up
against mechanical deadlines and miss one of those and we're basically
screwed. The actual switch over to Vista went quickly and smoothly once
all work arounds and customization was complete. Dumping XP also meant
updating to new software and getting rid of older software.

But this issue really irritates you doesn't it?
Too bad! I don't give a sh*t about you, or your drunken opinions.
They're as worthless as you you are.
Frank

 

[Adam Albright]

Well, not surprising, you totally failed to read or comprehend what I
said, in my original post..."XP no more...!".

I can read you like a book. You've very transparent. You come waltzing
in here bragging about some marketing company you're support to run,
then nearly every post you make you add a snort or smirk or some other
childish remark, then call others liars or drunks. Doesn't sound like
you're much of a business owner to me... or anybody else if you can't
keep you cool and the only skill you seem to have is endless boasting
and pretending to be some expert on computers after you admit it took
you half a year to get up to speed.