page_fault_in_nonpaged_area

N

New Orleans Novice

What would you do?
What should I do?

page_fault_in_nonpaged_area

Using a Dell Inspiron B130, XP Home, All MS updates, 512 RAM, 35 GB HD, with
5 GB Free.

for no reason the blue screen comes up;
A problem has been detected, etc.
page_fault_in_nonpaged_area
Check new hardware, software, etc

Technical Information:

*** STOP: 0X00000050 (0XE155B000, 0X00000000, 0X8053711F, 0X00000001)

Beginning dump of physical memory
Physical memory dump complete.
Contact your sys admin, etc.

Is there any help for this Laptop ? Thanks from New Orleans
 
R

Robert Moir

New Orleans Novice said:
What would you do?
What should I do?

page_fault_in_nonpaged_area

Using a Dell Inspiron B130, XP Home, All MS updates, 512 RAM, 35 GB HD,
with
5 GB Free.

for no reason the blue screen comes up;
A problem has been detected, etc.
page_fault_in_nonpaged_area
Check new hardware, software, etc

Technical Information:

*** STOP: 0X00000050 (0XE155B000, 0X00000000, 0X8053711F, 0X00000001)

Beginning dump of physical memory
Physical memory dump complete.
Contact your sys admin, etc.

Is there any help for this Laptop ? Thanks from New Orleans

When did this start happening? How often does it happen?
0x050 errors usually indicate a hardware problem of some kind. This can be
an actual hardware fault or (more likely) bad drivers.

It should mention a filename as part of the error message, I believe. use
google with this filename to determine what installed the file, probably a
driver of some kind, and obtain an updated version (e.g. download up to date
drivers).
 
G

Guest

Robert Moir said:
When did this start happening? How often does it happen?
0x050 errors usually indicate a hardware problem of some kind. This can be
an actual hardware fault or (more likely) bad drivers.

It should mention a filename as part of the error message, I believe. use
google with this filename to determine what installed the file, probably a
driver of some kind, and obtain an updated version (e.g. download up to date
drivers).

Adding to Robert, it also can indicate a overheating issue or bad RAM. test
your RAM to see if it is okay.

Run Disk Check and the error will go away!.
HTH.
nass
 
N

New Orleans Novice

chkdsk switches

I removed the USB flash drive.
USB mouse.
Power cable

chkdsk /f /r

Crashed again.

Must be bad RAM chips

Thanks
 
G

Gerry

It need not be the RAM.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms793437.aspx

For advice on testing memory
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Hardware_Tshoot

Are there any yellow question marks in Device Manager? Right click on
the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties,
Hardware,Device Manager. If yes what is the Device Error code?

Try Start, Run, type "sigverif.exe" without quotes and hit OK. What
drivers are listed as unsigned? Disregard those which are not checked.

Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in the
System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last problematic
shutdown. No
Information Reports please.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
R

Robert Moir

Must be bad RAM chips

Thanks

Might be bad ram. Could be overheating ram.

Unless you've got reason to suspect either of the above (new ram, case
interior very hot) I'd probably think about bad sound or display drivers
first, and possibly the power supply (you'd be surprised how much trouble an
old power supply which isn't supplying good stable signal can cause).
 
G

Guest

Hello!!!
I'm having the same problem.
It's been going on since I bought my machine.
I recently changed the power supply for a brand new Thermaltake TR2-550W,
and I changed my RAM for a brand new one too!
Did not solve the problem...
I use a little application called AIDA32 to monitor my system's
temperatures. All readings are around 48°C, which I suspect is quite
acceptable?
These are my system specs:

ASUS P5NSLI MoBo
1 X Intel Core 2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz
1 X 1 GB SuperTalent RAM
2 X NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT (I have 3 Monitors)
1 X Maxtor 80 GB SATA

I recently ran ChkDsk, and that didn't solve the issue either.
What step should I take next?
I thank you in advance,
Albert C...
 
G

Guest

Forgot to mention:
When I get the BSOD, it says something about win32k.sys
Thanks again.
 
G

Gerry

Albert

Please post a copy of the relevant Error Report in Event Viewer.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Guest

Hello
Ok, I found 2 successive errors, 30 seconds appart from each other.
Here they go respectively. Sorry they are in Spanish, but I think you'll
understand the important stuff.

ERROR 1
-------
Aplicación con errores: iexplore.exe, versión: 7.0.6000.16512, módulo con
error: jscript.dll, versión 5.7.0.5730, dirección de error 0x00022c32.

Para obtener más información, vea el Centro de ayuda y soporte técnico en
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
-------
ERROR 2 (This one actually produced the Crash & BSOD)
-------
Depósito 520983814 incorrecto.

Para obtener más información, vea el Centro de ayuda y soporte técnico en
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
-------
Since it says something aboutn Iexplore, this is the Internet Explorer
Version I am using:
7.0.5730.11

I thank you in advance,
Albert C.
 
G

Gerry

Albert

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms793437.aspx

Your reference to win32k.sys could be important.

Can you please post a copy of the Stop Error Report.

Disable automatic restart on system failure. This should help by
allowing time to write down the STOP code properly. Right click on
the My Computer icon on the Desktop and select Properties, Advanced,
Start-Up and Recovery, System Failure and uncheck box before
Automatically Restart.

Do not re-enable automatic restart on system failure even after you have
solved the problem as it's better disabled. Check for variants of the
Stop Error message.

An alternative is to keep pressing the F8 key during Start-Up and select
option - Disable automatic restart on system failure.

If you are using a wireless keyboard and the F8 key does not work
substitute a wired keyboard and mouse for this exercise only.

You should test your RAM memory
http://www.memtest.org/

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Hardware_Tshoot


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Guest

Hello Gerry.
I already disabled auto-restart. I have a Photo of the BSOD I got.
What should I do with it? What part specifically are you interested in?
Here are the parts I think are interesting...
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
caused by: win32k.sys
Technical Info:
Stop: 0x00000050 (0xFFE68108, 0x00000000, 0xBF8263F2,0x00000000)
WIN32K.SYS - Address BF8263F2 base at BF800000, DateStamp 45f013f6

Thanks again,
Albert C
 
G

Gerry

Albert

There is a noticeable similarity with this Windows 2000 error but I
cannot find a corresponding Windows XP Knowledge Base Article.
"Stop 0x50 in Win32k.sys" Error Message
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281132

What is your your StartUp type for Terminal Services. Start, Control
Panel, Administrative Tools, Services. Mine is set to Manual. Have you
installed the Windows XP SP2 update and all subsequent updates?

What version of win32k.sys is located in your System 32 folder? Right
click on the file selecting Properties, Version?

I have found this post by Kelly dated 21 February 2004, which is worth
trying.
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-94921.php

Kelly is a very smart lady.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Guest

Hi Gerry.
You are not gonna believe this!
I just got another BSOD, but this time its
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
The two "wierd" things I did this morning were
1. Update NVidia drivers
2. ChkDsk
Going nuts here!!!
To answer your previous post, My Windows XP is up-to-date 100%, and I'm
running an updated version of AVG anti virus.
I also have my Terminal Services set to Manual.

My win32k version is 5.1.2600.3099

I'm now gonna try Kelly's trick.

Thanks again,
Albert C.
 
S

samthehands

Hi Albert,

Did you ever manage to fix your BSOD problems? It sounds like I'm having a
similar problem and wouuld be interested to know what you did.
 
A

Albert

Hi Sam.
Yes, as a matter of fact I solved it completely.
Turns out that the guy who sold me my SUPER EXPENSIVE computer decided to
save himself 5$ on a side fan, so the RAM was overheating. I installed an
extra fan and I haven't crashed once since then.
Hope this solves your problem as well.
Best regards,
Albert C.
 
G

Gerry

That's an interesting outcome Albert.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
A

Albert

Yes, sorry I didn't mention it earlier, cause you were very nice to take the
time to try to help me.
I think the conclusion is that when the BSODs are frequent but different
each time, overheating is a good guess.
Belated thanks for your help,
Albert
 

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