Outlook with Outlook Express?

[johnthebaptist]

Running Office Standard 2007 on Vista Home Basic. My default email client is
Outlook. I'm not using Exchange.

I can't logon to the control panel of the Web site I'm trying to set up,
even though I'm a subscriber to the host. I can't get my user name and
password together. The host tech says this failure calls for adjusting my
ISP's outgoing mail server.

My ISP tech advises that I connect to my host through Outlook Express. But
the OE download links I've tried don't work.

So is there any way I can use Outlook for everything except connecting with
my Web site and use OE only for that?

 

[Paul Montgomery]

Running Office Standard 2007 on Vista Home Basic. My default email client is
Outlook. I'm not using Exchange.

I can't logon to the control panel of the Web site I'm trying to set up,
even though I'm a subscriber to the host. I can't get my user name and
password together. The host tech says this failure calls for adjusting my
ISP's outgoing mail server.

My ISP tech advises that I connect to my host through Outlook Express. But
the OE download links I've tried don't work.

So is there any way I can use Outlook for everything except connecting with
my Web site and use OE only for that?

First: it's not OE in Vista, it's Windows Mail.

Second, if you set a default for email, then I think you'll be stuck
with that program, unless you have more than one email address.

I use Windows Mail for two addresses and Outlook for the others.
Outlook is my default email client.

 

[Mick Murphy]

In your email account for your website, in Properties> servers section, tick
"My server requires authentication"

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

I use Windows Mail for two addresses and Outlook for the others.

Why?

ss.

 

[Paul Montgomery]

Why?

For da halibut. I have a couple "throw away" accounts that get a lot
of SPAM and those are setup in Windows Mail.

 

[Gordon]

Running Office Standard 2007 on Vista Home Basic. My default email client
is
Outlook. I'm not using Exchange.

I can't logon to the control panel of the Web site I'm trying to set up,
even though I'm a subscriber to the host. I can't get my user name and
password together. The host tech says this failure calls for adjusting my
ISP's outgoing mail server.

My ISP tech advises that I connect to my host through Outlook Express.

Your "tech" is talking baloney. If he says you can use OE to download email
then you can use ANY mail client you want. Just replicate the settings he
says you should use in OE, in Outlook.
"Tech" indeed! Some of these people need to get another job....

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Running Office Standard 2007 on Vista Home Basic. My default email client is
Outlook. I'm not using Exchange.

I can't logon to the control panel of the Web site I'm trying to set up,
even though I'm a subscriber to the host. I can't get my user name and
password together. The host tech says this failure calls for adjusting my
ISP's outgoing mail server.

My ISP tech advises that I connect to my host through Outlook Express. But
the OE download links I've tried don't work.

So is there any way I can use Outlook for everything except connecting with
my Web site and use OE only for that?

Either you've misunderstood what your ISP tech said, or he doesn't
know what he's talking about. Note the following:

1. There is no Outlook Express in Vista. The equivalent program is now
called "Windows Mail." You are not using, and can not use, Outlook
Express for anything under Vista.

2. Neither Outlook Express nor Windows Mail are used to connect to any
web site, nor can they do so. You connect to a web site with a Web
Browser; Internet Explorer is the default browser that come with
Windows, but you can use any browser you choose.

You say "I can't logon to the control panel of the Web site I'm trying
to set up, even though I'm a subscriber to the host. I can't get my
user name and password together. The host tech says this failure
calls for adjusting my ISP's outgoing mail server." I'm lost in these
sentences, and really understand what your problem is. Can you clarify
exactly what you are trying to do, please? Include the URL of the web
site you're trying to use.

 

[johnthebaptist]

Thank you, Ken Blake.

On your point #1. I made this important discovery while talking to a second
ISP tech.

On your point #2. The email part of my difficulty connecting with my Web
site comes from the fact that the host tells me I can have email accounts on
my Web site. We even set up mine. I don't know if it worked or not because
I can't log on to my c/panel at the host, http://www.inmotionhosting.com/.

It's a user name/password problem. I entered what I thought the tech and I
agreed on:

user name: my email address at the site

password: a six-character item

but the entry didn't work.

My exact aim:

1. To access my c/panel at the site;

2. To test my email at the site.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Thank you, Ken Blake.

You're welcome. Glad to help.

On your point #1. I made this important discovery while talking to a second
ISP tech.

Good, glad that's straightened out.

On your point #2. The email part of my difficulty connecting with my Web
site comes from the fact that the host tells me I can have email accounts on
my Web site. We even set up mine. I don't know if it worked or not because
I can't log on to my c/panel at the host, http://www.inmotionhosting.com/.

It's a user name/password problem. I entered what I thought the tech and I
agreed on:

OK, so you want to access a web-based E-mail service. Just to make
sure that it's clear, please confirm that you do now understand that
Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, or any other E-mail client
isn't involved here at all. You do this with your web browser
(internet explorer or whatever browser is your choice).

user name: my email address at the site

password: a six-character item

but the entry didn't work.

Sorry, I can't help with that, and I don't think anyone else here can
either. This is between you and the company providing the E-mail
access, and you'll need to square this away with them. Almost
certainly what you "thought the tech and [you] agreed on" is not what
the tech though, and something is different.

The only suggestion that I can make (and it's nothing more than a
guess) is that the password set up by the tech and the password you
are entering have one or more differences in case within them.

 

[johnthebaptist]

You're welcome. Glad to help.





Good, glad that's straightened out.




OK, so you want to access a web-based E-mail service. Just to make
sure that it's clear, please confirm that you do now understand that
Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail, or any other E-mail client
isn't involved here at all. You do this with your web browser
(internet explorer or whatever browser is your choice).

A second important discovery, well pointed. Thanks. But . . .

I've since discovered *Infinite Ink,* an enclopedic source on IMAP service
which I think I'll need on my Web site. *ii* pointed me to Zimbra, an email
client available free at Yahoo!.com. Zimbra offers both POP and IMAP service.
Some very nice things are said about Zimbra as an IMAP provider. If you
enter *Infinite Ink" in your browser, you'll reach their general site with
IMAP showing as a "subsite(?)".

So now my questions are:

1. Can/should Zimbra handle my mail on my Web site? Mary McGough, *ii*
founder, thinks it's better under current conditions to have three separate
providers for email, web hosting, and [something else: PIM?]. Says she's
been trying for years and hasn't found a provider really good at all three.
Says that with separate providers you can change one without messing up the
other two.2. Can I skip the Web site email service and have Zimbra (or another) handle
my Web traffic somehow? This includes me as four users on my computer.

3. I don't see how you can do email without an ISP, do you?

user name: my email address at the site

password: a six-character item

but the entry didn't work.

Sorry, I can't help with that, and I don't think anyone else here can
either. This is between you and the company providing the E-mail
access, and you'll need to square this away with them. Almost
certainly what you "thought the tech and [you] agreed on" is not what
the tech though, and something is different.

The only suggestion that I can make (and it's nothing more than a
guess) is that the password set up by the tech and the password you
are entering have one or more differences in case within them.

Thanks for the suggestion. As it turns out, my browser generates the login
dialog which gives me the hint I need to enter the right password.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

A second important discovery, well pointed. Thanks.

You're welcome again.

But . . .

I've since discovered *Infinite Ink,* an enclopedic source on IMAP service
which I think I'll need on my Web site. *ii* pointed me to Zimbra, an email
client available free at Yahoo!.com. Zimbra offers both POP and IMAP service.
Some very nice things are said about Zimbra as an IMAP provider. If you
enter *Infinite Ink" in your browser, you'll reach their general site with
IMAP showing as a "subsite(?)".

So now my questions are:

1. Can/should Zimbra handle my mail on my Web site?

Sorry, never heard of it, and know nothing about it. I can't help
there.

Mary McGough, *ii*
founder, thinks it's better under current conditions to have three separate
providers for email, web hosting, and [something else: PIM?]. Says she's
been trying for years and hasn't found a provider really good at all three.
Says that with separate providers you can change one without messing up the
other two.2. Can I skip the Web site email service and have Zimbra (or another) handle
my Web traffic somehow? This includes me as four users on my computer.

Again, I know nothing about it, and have no opinion.

3. I don't see how you can do email without an ISP, do you?

There are two different issues here:

1. You need an ISP to have access to the internet.

2. You have to have access to the internet to do E-mail.

So, although it's true that you can't do E-mail without an ISP,
there's no necessary direct connection between the two, and you don't
have to use the E-mail address provided by your ISP. For example, many
people use an E-mail address provided by GMail, hotmail, yahoo, etc.
in preference to the address provided by the ISP. I personally never
use my ISP's address, and use a different permanent one because it
makes it much easier to change ISPs, should I ever want to, without
having to notify all my correspondents of my new address.