OT Windows 95B OSR2.1, AGP Texture Accelerator

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Daniel Mandic

Hi NG



My ASUS P3B-F 1.04 is going on strike. I never remember such a
behaviour with Win95 before. HX, BX (P2B-F). KT133A seems not to work,
with Win95 at all :-(.

Well, my problem is: After installing USBSUPP and USBSUP2 the AGP
Texture Acc. button is activated (dxdiag). The system is only running
stable, when this button is greyed out at all.
It also happens w/o installing USBSUPP from time to time. But
reinstalling the GfX-driver unsets AGP Acc. to greyed out again.
But with USBSUPP installed it´s not possible to get in the greyed-out
state back.
Just deactivating, results in the same errors as leaving activated. :-(

With AGP Texture Acceleration greyed out, the Win95 System is working
rock Solid!

I have the 95 B Version 4.1212, IE5.5SP2, MSPlus!, MGA-G400
drivers-newest 6.22.10 MS-certified, MS DX8.0a.
Machine: P3B-F, iP2/300/FSB100 512K 2ndLevelCache, back to BIOS 1005
(tried 1008beta4 - the same), 256MB RAM (one dimm PC133 Cl3), AGP
Caching method= UC, AGP Size= 32MB


Thanks.






Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic


P.S.: I tried to disable the USB at all, but the P3B-F seems not to do
so. Win95 still finds an USB, but callsigned. Or having a question
mark.... also not a solution for me.
 
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Custom Computers

Wow Win95 sorry can't help you. I do have a brand new copy of Win95 but
I'm only keeping it for historical value.
 
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Robert Hancock

Daniel said:
Hi NG



My ASUS P3B-F 1.04 is going on strike. I never remember such a
behaviour with Win95 before. HX, BX (P2B-F). KT133A seems not to work,
with Win95 at all :-(.

Well, my problem is: After installing USBSUPP and USBSUP2 the AGP
Texture Acc. button is activated (dxdiag). The system is only running
stable, when this button is greyed out at all.
It also happens w/o installing USBSUPP from time to time. But
reinstalling the GfX-driver unsets AGP Acc. to greyed out again.
But with USBSUPP installed it´s not possible to get in the greyed-out
state back.
Just deactivating, results in the same errors as leaving activated. :-(

With AGP Texture Acceleration greyed out, the Win95 System is working
rock Solid!
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That does not surprise me. Boards from that era were not designed to run
in Windows 95.. are chipset drivers even available?
 
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Daniel Mandic

Robert said:
That does not surprise me. Boards from that era were not designed to
run in Windows 95.. are chipset drivers even available?
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Yes, also for full AGP Support.



Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
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Daniel Mandic

I give it up, for now.

The whole Night fiddling with Win95 and AGP is enough... I found a
VGART.VXD on the Internet which worked at least 2 or 3 (of 20) Tests
with 3DMark 2000. ;-)
The VXD´s (newer than the one mentioned before) of the
Graphiccard-Driver let not even start 3DMark. ???

Anyone ever saw a Win95 with full AGP Support?



I replaced now the AGP and put in a PCI Gfx. Everything works well.

I tried it with the P2B... well, at least the shutdown-behaviour got
better ;-) (due to the better BIOS) but the AGP Texture Acceleration
seems to be nothing for WIn95, whether P2B or P3B-F. Windows freezes or
makes some color-clashs and crash.
I think I will leave the PCI-GfX in the P2B and be happy with my
AMI-Intel Pentiiiuuum Two, with extended Extra Level Cache. ;-) Fast.
 
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milleron

I give it up, for now.

The whole Night fiddling with Win95 and AGP is enough... I found a
VGART.VXD on the Internet which worked at least 2 or 3 (of 20) Tests
with 3DMark 2000. ;-)
The VXD´s (newer than the one mentioned before) of the
Graphiccard-Driver let not even start 3DMark. ???

Anyone ever saw a Win95 with full AGP Support?



I replaced now the AGP and put in a PCI Gfx. Everything works well.

I tried it with the P2B... well, at least the shutdown-behaviour got
better ;-) (due to the better BIOS) but the AGP Texture Acceleration
seems to be nothing for WIn95, whether P2B or P3B-F. Windows freezes or
makes some color-clashs and crash.
I think I will leave the PCI-GfX in the P2B and be happy with my
AMI-Intel Pentiiiuuum Two, with extended Extra Level Cache. ;-) Fast.
Click to expand...

Interesting troubleshooting procedure, but you didn't tell us why
you're installing Windows 95. I imagine that story would be more
interesting than your troubleshooting one.


Ron
 
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Daniel Mandic

milleron said:
Interesting troubleshooting procedure, but you didn't tell us why
you're installing Windows 95. I imagine that story would be more
interesting than your troubleshooting one.


Ron
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Hi Ron!



Bez I need no Computer for Internet and similar purposes, I need a
realtime OS. Well, I could go with 98 or ME, but 95 is more likely for
me and better configurable (ACPI etc. makes no prob etc...)

The P2B with 300MHz behaves faster than my 1GHz P3 with WinXP, so long
I go with 1 or 2 Windows open, of course. But that is exactly what I
need.

For Mega-Sessions I have my Tualatin with XP, it drops no speed even
many Windows are open (not to say the stability vs. 95 ;.)) - it´s
exceptionally compared to 9x), due to the NT Architecture. Memory
Protection etc. Threading.. handling.. --- I don´t need this stuff.
It´s more like a hinderance than a help, to the Tasks I need, going
with the P2B/iP2 Windows 95B OSR2.1.

(Upgr. to 2.5 with Usbsup2 and first USBSUPP).


Well, I am still interested if it possible to drive 95 with full
featured AGP, at least stable (Win 9x/ME is always unstable ;-)) as a
Win98?

To get the fastness, I have now with Win95 at WinXP, I would need a
4GHz PC, and that is not in my clue. Not to mention the other things I
ought to buy, of course. DDR, SATA, Ventialtors, PCI Express.

No no, the P2B is now working like an Elk, straight to that Task I need
(I could go with a fast 486 too, but the P2B is too preppy).
Perfect!!!!! With the PCI GfX, the system got solid rock stable. And
USB.

Is there a better ISA-PCI Chipset out there?





Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
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