OT Captcha, commin atchah?

J

John Doe

Is it just me, or is Captcha getting a little too difficult to
translate lately? Taking two or three tries sometimes. Seems to me
they could figure out a better way of doing that, so that we
humans can see it easily.
 
M

Mike Easter

John said:
Is it just me, or is Captcha getting a little too difficult to
translate lately? Taking two or three tries sometimes. Seems to me
they could figure out a better way of doing that, so that we
humans can see it easily.

There is a big problem with creating a challenge response system which
is 'nicely' accessible to human response and not easily accessible to
the methods for circumventing the 'security' of the system by bypassing,
character recognition ware, or human semi-slave labor captcha solvers
for pennies a thousand.

Like all bad security efforts, then it obstructs the people it wants to
admit, and/but admits the interlopers which it is trying to deter.
 
M

Mark

Is it just me, or is Captcha getting a little too difficult to
translate lately? Taking two or three tries sometimes. Seems to me
they could figure out a better way of doing that, so that we
humans can see it easily.

Yes. I regularly get captchas wrong. Especially when the challenges
are not real words.
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J

John Doe

Mike Easter said:
John Doe wrote:

There is a big problem with creating a challenge response system
which is 'nicely' accessible to human response and not easily
accessible to the methods for circumventing the 'security' of
the system by bypassing, character recognition ware, or human
semi-slave labor captcha solvers for pennies a thousand.

Hmmm, that had not occurred to me. Probably another side effect of
globalism.
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T

TVeblen

Is it just me, or is Captcha getting a little too difficult to
translate lately? Taking two or three tries sometimes. Seems to me
they could figure out a better way of doing that, so that we
humans can see it easily.

The 'official' Captcha (TM) system is actually a cooperative effort with
some folks who are attempting to digitize books.

One of the words will be easy to identify by human eye, but the other
will be an actual screenshot of a garbled word taken from a scan of a
text that the OCR program could not decipher. The idea is that if enough
people identify the garbled word the same way then the entry can be
corrected in the digital text.

So instead of spending your time entering 2 words or a number for
security for nothing you are spending your time to help out a 'worthy'
cause.

Or you are being employed to do someone else work for free. Depends on
how you look at it.
 
J

John Doe

TVeblen said:
John Doe wrote:

The 'official' Captcha (TM) system is actually a cooperative
effort with some folks who are attempting to digitize books.

One of the words will be easy to identify by human eye, but the
other will be an actual screenshot of a garbled word taken from
a scan of a text that the OCR program could not decipher. The
idea is that if enough people identify the garbled word the same
way then the entry can be corrected in the digital text.

So instead of spending your time entering 2 words or a number
for security for nothing you are spending your time to help out
a 'worthy' cause.

Or you are being employed to do someone else work for free.
Depends on how you look at it.

That's not funny...
 
M

Mark

The 'official' Captcha (TM) system is actually a cooperative effort with
some folks who are attempting to digitize books.

One of the words will be easy to identify by human eye, but the other
will be an actual screenshot of a garbled word taken from a scan of a
text that the OCR program could not decipher. The idea is that if enough
people identify the garbled word the same way then the entry can be
corrected in the digital text.

So instead of spending your time entering 2 words or a number for
security for nothing you are spending your time to help out a 'worthy'
cause.

Then why do they keep telling me I am wrong?
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(\__/) M.
(='.'=) Due to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
 
T

TVeblen

Then why do they keep telling me I am wrong?

Carnegie-Mellon's system is actually called ReCaptcha.
ReCaptcha has a circular arrow in it's red logo along with the name.
That is the one that translates books. Sorry for that bit of
misinformation above.

CAPTCHA is actually a generic acronym for "Completely Automated Public
Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart"
And because Carnegie-Mellon could never copyright it, it became a
generic name for any "human or computer" test.
There are many variations. Maybe you just get the hard ones.
 
J

John Doe

TVeblen said:
One of the words will be easy to identify by human eye, but the
other will be an actual screenshot of a garbled word taken from
a scan of a text that the OCR program could not decipher.

Doesn't that mean the word will be valid English?

That's not what I see, but I will keep that in mind.
 
M

Mark

Carnegie-Mellon's system is actually called ReCaptcha.
ReCaptcha has a circular arrow in it's red logo along with the name.
That is the one that translates books. Sorry for that bit of
misinformation above.

CAPTCHA is actually a generic acronym for "Completely Automated Public
Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart"
And because Carnegie-Mellon could never copyright it, it became a
generic name for any "human or computer" test.
There are many variations. Maybe you just get the hard ones.

It's the ones branded with "recaptcha" that I have most difficulty
with.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) Due to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
 

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