OT Any legitimate Chinese users on USENET?

[John Doe]

I was going to post the rant (in my signature below, FWIW), then
figured I should check around for a more appropriate group. Opened
the big non-binary group (soc.culture.china). Someone already had a
thread going with a similar title "Anybody From China?". According
to the consensus there, the answer is "No". Then I was going to ask
where all the "NIKE... JORDAN..." Google Groups spam comes from.
Looked around and noticed there isn't any Chinese Google Groups spam
in that group. Hmm.







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Is anyone who posts from China reading this?

Have you ever heard of anyone who posts from China to a USENET
group?

Or is spam the only relationship Chinese Google Groups users have
with USENET?

Assuming the answer, why is that? Are ordinary Chinese people not
allowed Internet access? Does the Chinese government set up and
supervise spam rooms for USENET and hacker rooms for the open
Internet?

Many years ago, I had a strange conversation with someone who
claimed to be from China. They wanted to leave China, they had
sporadic Internet access, and it was like they were constantly
looking over their shoulder.

 

[Paul]

I was going to post the rant (in my signature below, FWIW), then
figured I should check around for a more appropriate group.

alt.flame is a good place. My server happens to do a pretty
good job, of filtering off that crap, so I'm pretty happy
right now.

Paul

 

[John Doe]

John Doe wrote:

alt.flame is a good place.

So it's okay if the Chinese are treated like slaves, prohibited from
communicating with the rest of the world, forced to produce goods
they never benefit from (and consequently drive down the wages of
workers in countries China trades with), just so long as you can
save a few pennies when you go to the store?

Or is that reading too much between the lines?

However politically incorrect the subject might be, there are
several interrelated issues that stick out like a sore thumb with
respect to the Chinese, the Internet, and trade. Inquiring minds
need to know.

My server happens to do a pretty good job, of filtering off that
crap, so I'm pretty happy right now.

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, that is another option.

I might have jumped to conclusions on the lack of spam in the China
group, seems that other (soc.culture.*) groups do not attract
spammers either.

 

[paul_0090]

So it's okay if the Chinese are treated like slaves, prohibited from
communicating with the rest of the world, forced to produce goods
they never benefit from (and consequently drive down the wages of
workers in countries China trades with), just so long as you can
save a few pennies when you go to the store?

Are you claiming ALL Chinese are treated like slaves?
Prove that ALL chinese are treated as slaves & different than
in the US. The US & "developed" nations have a "high standard
of living" & wages but also have much higher prices than
undeveloped or emerging nations.

Or is that reading too much between the lines?

yes, the news media give me the impression that ALL people in
the US are crooks.

However politically incorrect the subject might be, there are
several interrelated issues that stick out like a sore thumb with
respect to the Chinese, the Internet, and trade. Inquiring minds
need to know.

Looks like you prefer people like Madoff doing their job.
or perhaps the "innovations" by wall street to sucker people into
balloon loans for house they cannot afford.

 

[John Doe]

John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
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Are you claiming ALL Chinese are treated like slaves?

No.

Are you the regular Paul?

Prove that ALL chinese are treated as slaves & different than in
the US.

Ordinary Chinese people are cut off from the rest of the world. You
have never seen them, Paul, you have never even talked to them. The
stuff you buy for a few pennies less is made by a faceless workers
in some undisclosed location in China who never see the benefit of
their produce.

The US & "developed" nations have a "high standard of living" &
wages but also have much higher prices than undeveloped or
emerging nations.

Our toys are bigger and better by far.

yes, the news media give me the impression that ALL people in the
US are crooks.

Really? Where are you from, Paul? Maybe I'll watch some of your news
media to see whether you are lying or just trolling.

Looks like you prefer people like Madoff doing their job. or
perhaps the "innovations" by wall street to sucker people into
balloon loans for house they cannot afford.

That is some serious reading between the lines, Paul.

 

[Paul]

No.

Are you the regular Paul?


Ordinary Chinese people are cut off from the rest of the world. You
have never seen them, Paul, you have never even talked to them. The
stuff you buy for a few pennies less is made by a faceless workers
in some undisclosed location in China who never see the benefit of
their produce.


Our toys are bigger and better by far.


Really? Where are you from, Paul? Maybe I'll watch some of your news
media to see whether you are lying or just trolling.


That is some serious reading between the lines, Paul.

I believe you'll find my pseudonym and email address have been
used consistently. So that other paul_0090 is someone else.

I don't discuss politics on USENET, because such a discussion
would be pointless. It would be like complaining about the
weather.

Paul

 

[John Doe]

I don't discuss politics on USENET, because such a discussion
would be pointless. It would be like complaining about the
weather.

I'd say it's close to that, but you never know.

 

[paul_0090]

I'd say it's close to that, but you never know.

Another of your wayward thinking/trolling. "Paul" is a common name
& you should be able to see it elsewhere; had thought of using
007 but thought the better of it.

Fox news does a "wanted" on their news; CSI, Forensic, etc shows also
about crimminals. Evidently you don't watch any "documentaries" that
show the shopping centers, upscale stores & car buying Chinese; they
are evolving just the the US did. There are also crimminal elements
in China, just like the US & Europe. Drugs are back in fashion even
if it was originally forced onto the Chinese by the US & European
countries.

"Slave wages": isn't that what the labor union leaders claim when time
for a new contract? Another strike by screen writers impending. How
about the increase of homeless in the US becoming a "problem" for the
"civic" leaders? The UAW isn't about to get rid of the "full pay with
benefits & pension" for the people who aren't doing work; just like
the longshore union when they implemented the same thing to "allow"
automation.

Low cost items; some but I don't find a Quad ESL speaker being "low cost";
nor are some other very good loudspeakers low-cost for my budget.

This is the wrong place for your trolls with nothing.

Spam in the newsgroups are "easily ignored". Adverts on website are more
irratating than newsgroup spam as the ad will also popup when the cursor
is within the vicinity; the underlying tracking of one's movement is also
irratating.......

 

[John Doe]

Another of your wayward thinking/trolling.

What the **** are you talking about, Pokey?

"Paul" is a common name & you should be able to see it elsewhere;

You are upset because I asked if Paul was the same?

Fox news does a "wanted" on their news; CSI, Forensic, etc shows
also about crimminals. Evidently you don't watch any
"documentaries" that show the shopping centers, upscale stores &
car buying Chinese;

Or the troops, or the tanks, rolling through the streets.

they are evolving just the the US did.

You are entirely clueless, Pokey. You can see where we live and
communicate with us. China has no such freedoms. Except maybe for
supervised hacking and advertising, apparently Chinese people can't
even use the Internet.

There are also crimminal elements in China, just like the US &
Europe. Drugs are back in fashion even if it was originally
forced onto the Chinese by the US & European countries.

Why are you bashing America, Pokey? You are taking advantage of our
public educational system and our free speech here in the United
States. Are you taking advantage of our welfare system too, Pokey?
Sounds like you are a good example of "throwing pearls to swine".

"Slave wages": isn't that what the labor union leaders claim when
time for a new contract? Another strike by screen writers
impending.

Are you taking public school courses in babbling, Pokey?

How about the increase of homeless in the US becoming a "problem"
for the "civic" leaders? The UAW isn't about to get rid of the
"full pay with benefits & pension" for the people who aren't doing
work; just like the longshore union when they implemented the same
thing to "allow" automation.

That argument is based on a zero sum game, Pokey.

This is the wrong place for your trolls with nothing.

How long have you been on USENET, Pokey?

 

[paul_0090]

What the **** are you talking about, Pokey?

THIS is pc-homebuilt, NOT political incorrectness.

You are upset because I asked if Paul was the same?

Are you the "John Doe" in the microshit newsgroups who only say
"google it"? The "John Doe" who pretends he is not a "MSVP".

Or the troops, or the tanks, rolling through the streets.

hmmm, you forgot the stuff in Texas or Columbine.

You are entirely clueless, Pokey. You can see where we live and
communicate with us. China has no such freedoms. Except maybe for
supervised hacking and advertising, apparently Chinese people can't
even use the Internet.

Typical of a "John Doe" blabbing.

Why are you bashing America, Pokey? You are taking advantage of our
public educational system and our free speech here in the United
States. Are you taking advantage of our welfare system too, Pokey?
Sounds like you are a good example of "throwing pearls to swine".

You are bashing China & pretending that the US is the perfect nation.
Very typical of the "human rights" imperialism.

Are you taking public school courses in babbling, Pokey?

You don't follow the news; no wonder you are blind.

That argument is based on a zero sum game, Pokey.

The UAW admits to it & is not included in it & is not negotiable for
the bail-out for the auto makers.

How long have you been on USENET, Pokey?

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