Opinions Please on Norton

[Heather]

I shouldn't even have to ask, but my tech is building me a new computer at
the moment and thought he was doing me a favour by putting Norton 2005 on
it. I am really hedging on that.

I am using WinME which Norton does not work with at all......plus the fact
that I dumped Norton some 5 years ago after getting 3 viruses because I had
a defective copy.

I have used EZ Trust ever since.......but is there some good reason for
putting Norton on my new XP machine? None that I know of, but thought I had
better ask. Perhaps I will see if he has Nod.

I am so excited about this coz I am picking out all the hardware with the
help of my MVP buddies and *Willy the Wonder Tech*......grin. I never ever
thought I would have to make so many damned decisions......on ditzy stuff
like case colour (got black & silver)......hey, got to get with it!!
Wireless keyboard and mouse, or regular......and so on.

But I know from being on this group for eons that Norton is one SOB to
remove......and I recall it seems to have a lot of Live Update problems. So
any info would be appreciated.

Cheers.....Heather

PS......Art, it really isn't all that expensive. Willy is doing a super job
for me. I do have my own copy of XP Home, so that saves on cost. Not
getting a new monitor or router at this point. Willy said to hold off until
I needed or wanted them. Took me 5 years to find this man.....he is so
damned honest......not to mention extremely good.

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Heather" <[email protected]>

| I shouldn't even have to ask, but my tech is building me a new computer at
| the moment and thought he was doing me a favour by putting Norton 2005 on
| it. I am really hedging on that.
|
| I am using WinME which Norton does not work with at all......plus the fact
| that I dumped Norton some 5 years ago after getting 3 viruses because I had
| a defective copy.
|
| I have used EZ Trust ever since.......but is there some good reason for
| putting Norton on my new XP machine? None that I know of, but thought I had
| better ask. Perhaps I will see if he has Nod.
|
| I am so excited about this coz I am picking out all the hardware with the
| help of my MVP buddies and *Willy the Wonder Tech*......grin. I never ever
| thought I would have to make so many damned decisions......on ditzy stuff
| like case colour (got black & silver)......hey, got to get with it!!
| Wireless keyboard and mouse, or regular......and so on.
|
| But I know from being on this group for eons that Norton is one SOB to
| remove......and I recall it seems to have a lot of Live Update problems. So
| any info would be appreciated.
|
| Cheers.....Heather
|
| PS......Art, it really isn't all that expensive. Willy is doing a super job
| for me. I do have my own copy of XP Home, so that saves on cost. Not
| getting a new monitor or router at this point. Willy said to hold off until
| I needed or wanted them. Took me 5 years to find this man.....he is so
| damned honest......not to mention extremely good.
|

Hi Figgs:

You don't want Norton 2005. It'll bog down the system terribly and you won't be happy at
all with it.

BTW: Every woman needs a good Willy.

 

[Art]

I shouldn't even have to ask, but my tech is building me a new computer at
the moment and thought he was doing me a favour by putting Norton 2005 on
it. I am really hedging on that.

I am using WinME which Norton does not work with at all......plus the fact
that I dumped Norton some 5 years ago after getting 3 viruses because I had
a defective copy.

I have used EZ Trust ever since.......but is there some good reason for
putting Norton on my new XP machine? None that I know of, but thought I had
better ask. Perhaps I will see if he has Nod.

I am so excited about this coz I am picking out all the hardware with the
help of my MVP buddies and *Willy the Wonder Tech*......grin. I never ever
thought I would have to make so many damned decisions......on ditzy stuff
like case colour (got black & silver)......hey, got to get with it!!
Wireless keyboard and mouse, or regular......and so on.

But I know from being on this group for eons that Norton is one SOB to
remove......and I recall it seems to have a lot of Live Update problems. So
any info would be appreciated.

Cheers.....Heather

PS......Art, it really isn't all that expensive. Willy is doing a super job
for me. I do have my own copy of XP Home, so that saves on cost. Not
getting a new monitor or router at this point. Willy said to hold off until
I needed or wanted them. Took me 5 years to find this man.....he is so
damned honest......not to mention extremely good.

Hey, you won't be banned from the virus lists just because you want to
give NAV another try for free Symantec does offer a eradication
utility from what I hear. What I'd do is backup the registry before
NAV is installed so I could restore it later. Maybe see if Willy will
do that for you.

Have fun!

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Donny Broome]

Norton is OK, but it's really no better than the free version of AVG.

http://free.grisoft.com/


--

 

[Heather]

at the moment and thought he was doing me a favour by putting Norton >
2005 on it. I am really hedging on that.

Hey, you won't be banned from the virus lists just because you want to
give NAV another try for free Symantec does offer a eradication
utility from what I hear. What I'd do is backup the registry before
NAV is installed so I could restore it later. Maybe see if Willy will
do that for you.

Have fun!

Thanks for the info. That is a thought. I will add that to the list I am
sending him tonight. And yes, I can't wait to get it. I have had XP Home
sitting here for 2.5 years and this POC could not be upgraded.

*MDG* Computer Company put a 1997 BIOS in it in 2001.....and it wouldn't
support either the upgrade or a second HD. I am naming the company so any
Canadian is aware of what happened to me....and could happen to them. I
suppose I could have blasted them and perhaps gotten a bit of a deal from
them on a new one, but it just ain't worth it......I don't trust them.

I also took a fair lightning hit a month ago and it fried the network card
and in general *upset* a few things, but I think it is doing OK for now.

Cheers......and thanks......Heather

 

[Heather]

From: "Heather" <[email protected]>

| I shouldn't even have to ask, but my tech is building me a new computer at
| the moment and thought he was doing me a favour by putting Norton 2005 on
| it. I am really hedging on that.
|
| I am using WinME which Norton does not work with at all......plus the fact
| that I dumped Norton some 5 years ago after getting 3 viruses because I had
| a defective copy.
|
| I have used EZ Trust ever since.......but is there some good reason for
| putting Norton on my new XP machine? None that I know of, but thought I had
| better ask. Perhaps I will see if he has Nod.
|
| I am so excited about this coz I am picking out all the hardware with the
| help of my MVP buddies and *Willy the Wonder Tech*......grin. I never ever
| thought I would have to make so many damned decisions......on ditzy stuff
| like case colour (got black & silver)......hey, got to get with it!!
| Wireless keyboard and mouse, or regular......and so on.
|
| But I know from being on this group for eons that Norton is one SOB to
| remove......and I recall it seems to have a lot of Live Update problems. So
| any info would be appreciated.
|
| Cheers.....Heather
|
| PS......Art, it really isn't all that expensive. Willy is doing a super job
| for me. I do have my own copy of XP Home, so that saves on cost. Not
| getting a new monitor or router at this point. Willy said to hold off until
| I needed or wanted them. Took me 5 years to find this man.....he is so
| damned honest......not to mention extremely good.
|

Hi Figgs:

You don't want Norton 2005. It'll bog down the system terribly and you won't be happy at all with it.

BTW: Every woman needs a good Willy.

ROFL!! I will tell him that.

And I will perhaps ask him to give me a copy of the Norton CD only because
he thought he was doing me a favour. He does ask me a few things about
malware and what is the best antivirus and so on.......but it sure boggles
my mind at how many computers come in to his shop that are just teeming with
viruses!! He puts me to work on the occasional one. And we have bets as to
how much spyware or viruses we will find. 511 spyware on the one I was
cleaning......we left the shop after 52 instances of viruses were
found.....forget just how many this guy had. Over a 100 anyway.

I think I should write a book that is aimed lower than the Dummies ones.
Maybe call it "So You Got a New Computer.....Now What??" (G)

Cheers, you brat!!

Heather

 

[Heather]

Oddly enough, that is what Willy uses in his shop to clean up computers.
(G) And AdAware. Me....I prefer EZ Trust. But AVG is what I usually
recommend to newbies.

Cheers.....Heather

 

[Charlie]

I shouldn't even have to ask,

No kidding Heather. You have been one of the most vocal and ardent Norton
bashers for years. Your troll attempts are pathetically transparent.

However one might want to use NAV since it has one of the very highest
detection rates ever of any AV product. Also for those that constantly cite
"resource hog" "slows my machine to a crawl" etc I have yet to see any
bonafide AV review that verifies this. BTW the ICSA uses NAV on their own
in house machines.

I have never seen any "slowdown" on my PC's over the past DECADE using
Norton products.
Thanks for the nice Usenet message.

 

[Heather]

Piss off, Charles Johnston.......you are the absolute LAST person I would
ever listen to.

HF

 

[Shane]

Do you have Erunt yet Figgs? There's no Scanreg in XP (or indeed in NT4.0 or
Win2K. To back the registry up you need Erunt:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ ).

NTRegopt comes with Erunt so no need to get it seperately.

(btw I've got a batch here that runs Erunt first boot of the day only, if
you get cheesed off with the default options, that is with - unless he's
changed it at last - having to remember now and then to manually delete old
backups. Mine makes one for each day of the week, so keeps a maximum of
seven).

SHane

 

[Heather]

Do you have Erunt yet Figgs? There's no Scanreg in XP (or indeed in NT4.0 or
Win2K. To back the registry up you need Erunt:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ ).

NTRegopt comes with Erunt so no need to get it seperately.

(btw I've got a batch here that runs Erunt first boot of the day only, if
you get cheesed off with the default options, that is with - unless he's
changed it at last - having to remember now and then to manually delete old
backups. Mine makes one for each day of the week, so keeps a maximum of
seven).

Thanks, Puss......looks like I have a lot of learning to do. Better hit
those XP News groups....lol.

XX Figgs

 

[Shane]

Thanks, Puss......looks like I have a lot of learning to do. Better
hit those XP News groups....lol.

I know a few people you could hit while you're there!

Which gives me an idea. Was it 'Strangers On A Train'? Anyone this side of
the pond you need wasting?


Shane

 

[optikl]

Do you have Erunt yet Figgs? There's no Scanreg in XP (or indeed in NT4.0 or
Win2K. To back the registry up you need Erunt:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ ).

NTRegopt comes with Erunt so no need to get it seperately.

(btw I've got a batch here that runs Erunt first boot of the day only, if
you get cheesed off with the default options, that is with - unless he's
changed it at last - having to remember now and then to manually delete old
backups. Mine makes one for each day of the week, so keeps a maximum of
seven).

SHane

How do you configure it to keep *only* a maximum of 7?

 

[Heather]

I know a few people you could hit while you're there!

That bad, eh? I got that impression from Joanie. Well......we shall see.

Which gives me an idea. Was it 'Strangers On A Train'? Anyone this > side

of the pond you need wasting?

You are being *shane/obscure* again.......but I can think of one or two on
this side of the pond that should be wasted. (G)

Figgs

 

[Shane]

How do you configure it to keep *only* a maximum of 7?

It backs up to folders named for the day of the week (using the
noconfirmdelete switch), as opposed to for the date in dd/mm/yy format.

I wrote the batch for NT4.0, in which date /t returns the day, whereas it
doesn't in XP. Rather than figure out how to get the day in XP, I just
renamed the NT4.0 CMD.EXE and call it from the batch.


Shane

 

[Ghostown]

At my work, I try to keep tabs on how much spyware Ill find on users systems
when Im called about problems. Right now, the record is over 5,000 files
found (Ad-Aware) on one PC. It took me almost 3 hours to clean his system.
It was so bad that Ad-Aware was freezing up so I ended up scanning and
re-scanning, dumping about 500 files at a time until they were all gone. In
retrospect, I should have just re-imaged his machine, but I look at things
like this as a lesson learned for the user. The whole time Im cleaning his
system, he isnt able to work. If he isnt able to work, his boss gets upset.
I make sure that everyone there knows why the system was polluted. I tried
introducing Firefox onto our systems, but our 'in charge' IT people said
that it wasnt going to be supported by us so out the window it went. Oh
well, I guess its job security.

 

[Heather]

I believe you. I think Willy said his highest was 3000 on a single
computer......kind of blows your mind, doesn't it.

As for FireFox.....I love it. It was the folks on here who recommended it.

Heather

 

[Charlie]

Watch your language little girl!! LOL!!!!

--

Charlie

 

[Peter Seiler]

Heather - 10.09.2005 02:57 :

[...]

I have used EZ Trust ever since.......but is there some good reason for
putting Norton on my new XP machine? None that I know of, but thought I had
better ask. Perhaps I will see if he has Nod.

[...]

I personally never used Norton but there are so enormous negatives about
this program(s) here and elsewhere so that I would never install Norton
on my computer. After experiences with McAffee, F-prot, AVAST, AVG,
Antivir I decided for BitDefender (actually Version 8 Professionell
Plus) since some years ago. And I'm very happy with this powerful and
featurerich program: embedded firewall, E-mail scanning, several
signature-updates per day, good service etc.. Running with Windows XP HOME.

BTW: Something wrong with your OE configuration, linefeeds in your other
repostings, for example:

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systems

system.

In

his

upset.

 

[Peter Seiler]

Heather - 10.09.2005 05:26 :

Piss off, Charles Johnston.......you are the absolute LAST person I would
ever listen to.

[100 quoting lines snipped]

ok, but why this language and fullquoting?