Opinions Please on Norton

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Conor

And I will perhaps ask him to give me a copy of the Norton CD only because
he thought he was doing me a favour. He does ask me a few things about
malware and what is the best antivirus and so on.......but it sure boggles
my mind at how many computers come in to his shop that are just teeming with
viruses!! He puts me to work on the occasional one. And we have bets as to
how much spyware or viruses we will find. 511 spyware on the one I was
cleaning......we left the shop after 52 instances of viruses were
found.....forget just how many this guy had. Over a 100 anyway.
191 on one I did yesterday. Sorted it out and stuck Firefox/Spybot S&D
on. Doubt I'll have anymore issues with it.
 
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Art

Do you have Erunt yet Figgs? There's no Scanreg in XP (or indeed in NT4.0 or
Win2K. To back the registry up you need Erunt:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ ).

NTRegopt comes with Erunt so no need to get it seperately.

I'm also a big fan of both those utils now that I'm using Win 2K. And
I'm in total agreement with a post you made in a different thread
concerning the use of more than one kind of backup/restore. I've
had good results with tests (trial runs) of XXCLONE in conjunction
with a removeable backup hard drive. I chose FAT32 for for Win
2K ... sorta keeping one foot back in the familiar while putting one
foot forward into the unfamiliar world of NT based OS. So far it's
worked out ok. I have some command line utils (DOS) I don't
want to abandon which only work with FAT.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
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optikl

Shane said:
It backs up to folders named for the day of the week (using the
noconfirmdelete switch), as opposed to for the date in dd/mm/yy format.

I wrote the batch for NT4.0, in which date /t returns the day, whereas it
doesn't in XP. Rather than figure out how to get the day in XP, I just
renamed the NT4.0 CMD.EXE and call it from the batch.


Shane
Ok, I hadn't read your original post carefully.
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "Peter Seiler" <[email protected]>

| Heather - 10.09.2005 05:26 :
||
| [100 quoting lines snipped]
|
| ok, but why this language and fullquoting?
|
| --
| by(e) PS
| spam will be killed

Because Figgs wanted to !

And that's that ! Now go to your room without supper.
 
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Heather

Aw, darn!! Here you are giving me your opinion on antivirus programs which
is a good thing......then you had to go and ruin it by picking apart my OE
configuration......Peter, Peter, Peter!! You have to be a Virgo!! (G)

Heather

Peter Seiler said:
Heather - 10.09.2005 02:57 :

[...]
I have used EZ Trust ever since.......but is there some good reason for
putting Norton on my new XP machine? None that I know of, but thought I had
better ask. Perhaps I will see if he has Nod.

[...]

I personally never used Norton but there are so enormous negatives about
this program(s) here and elsewhere so that I would never install Norton
on my computer. After experiences with McAffee, F-prot, AVAST, AVG,
Antivir I decided for BitDefender (actually Version 8 Professionell
Plus) since some years ago. And I'm very happy with this powerful and
featurerich program: embedded firewall, E-mail scanning, several
signature-updates per day, good service etc.. Running with Windows XP HOME.

BTW: Something wrong with your OE configuration, linefeeds in your other
repostings, for example:

----------
systems

system.
gone.

upset.
 
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Heather

David H. Lipman said:
From: "Peter Seiler" <[email protected]>

| Heather - 10.09.2005 05:26 :
| would ever listen to.
|
| [100 quoting lines snipped]
|
| ok, but why this language and fullquoting?
|
| --
| by(e) PS
| spam will be killed

Because Figgs wanted to !

And that's that ! Now go to your room without supper.

LOL....and thanks for snipping, you guys. It's a long story and not one you
folks would be familiar with....but suffice it to say that he is a royal
PITA and fixated on Norton. And I immediately plonked him.

Hopefully his psychiatric meds are now working properly. If not, you will
soon see why I told him to piss off......and that was the polite version.

There.....that ought to give Peter something else to kvetch about. (G)

Cheers.....Heather
 
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Ghostown

Im not wanting to jump into a flame war, but I did want to toss in my two
pennies...

Depending on what type of environment you are running NAV, it could very
well slow things down considerably. On systems with resources that are at
the recommended minimums, you will see a noticible decline in performance.
Not every company has top of the line stuff. Currently, I do not install
NAV on any of our mobile users specifically because it is a resource hog and
when it finds something, it typically cannot clean or disinfect it. It does
a great job at sticking it in quarantine though, but thats not helping much.
Just because an AV review doesnt mention it, doesnt mean that Joe User isnt
experiencing it. I suspect those groups that test software such as AV are
probably running quite powerful systems, so I really wouldnt expect them to
get slowed down. I support almost a 1000 users in a public safety
environment which includes a considerable number of mobile data users
running 98SE with 32mb RAM. We have been running Norton Corporate for a
long time and were hit at least 3 times in the past 5 years with stuff that
it didnt stop. Code Red was one, Blaster was another and I dont recall the
other one. I detest Norton AV and instead utilize F-Prot for Windows as
well as AVG and Avast. None of those have failed me yet and they work on
many different configurations. Hope this helps.
 
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* * Chas

| At my work, I try to keep tabs on how much spyware Ill find on users
systems
| when Im called about problems. Right now, the record is over 5,000
files
| found (Ad-Aware) on one PC. It took me almost 3 hours to clean his
system.
| It was so bad that Ad-Aware was freezing up so I ended up scanning and
| re-scanning, dumping about 500 files at a time until they were all
gone. In
| retrospect, I should have just re-imaged his machine, but I look at
things
| like this as a lesson learned for the user. The whole time Im
cleaning his
| system, he isnt able to work. If he isnt able to work, his boss gets
upset.
| I make sure that everyone there knows why the system was polluted. I
tried
| introducing Firefox onto our systems, but our 'in charge' IT people
said
| that it wasnt going to be supported by us so out the window it went.
Oh
| well, I guess its job security.
|

I visited my niece last year, a day after she had Comcast cable
installed. She asked me to look at her computer. Her 9 year old daughter
was surfing the net and the PC started acting "funny".

I installed AdAware, SpyBot, F-Prot DOS and several other programs. I
found 127MB of hard core porn that had just been D/L and I stopped
counting at 27 hijackers. I worked on it for 3 hours to clean out all of
the junk. It looked like this PC was being turned into a porn site
zombie!

This all happened on a system that was running an automatically updated
corporate version of McAfee AV and firewall which was a mandatory
requirement of her husband's employer for him to be able to log in to
check company E-mail from home. They were running WinME.

Chas.
 
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Larry Sabo

[snip]
(btw I've got a batch here that runs Erunt first boot of the day only, if
you get cheesed off with the default options, that is with - unless he's
changed it at last - having to remember now and then to manually delete old
backups. Mine makes one for each day of the week, so keeps a maximum of
seven).

SHane
[snip]


Sorry to butt in here but there's no need for a batch job. The latest
version with AutoBackup incorporates a switch to make it easy. Just
add /day:7 to the command line* and it keeps the backups made over the
last 7 days. Seems to just keep one per day, but I could be wrong.

I found this so helpful, I thought it justified barging into the
middle of this thread to mention it. :blush:)


Cheers,
Larry

* i.e., right-click the ERUNTAutoBackup shortcut in
Start\Programs\Startup and append "/days:7" without the quotes.
 
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Shane

Larry said:
[snip]
(btw I've got a batch here that runs Erunt first boot of the day
only, if you get cheesed off with the default options, that is with
- unless he's changed it at last - having to remember now and then
to manually delete old backups. Mine makes one for each day of the
week, so keeps a maximum of seven).

SHane
[snip]


Sorry to butt in here but there's no need for a batch job. The latest
version with AutoBackup incorporates a switch to make it easy. Just
add /day:7 to the command line* and it keeps the backups made over the
last 7 days. Seems to just keep one per day, but I could be wrong.

Yes, so I see. And yes, according to the readme it only makes one backup per
day by default.
I found this so helpful, I thought it justified barging into the
middle of this thread to mention it. :blush:)

I'm glad you did - though I'll continue to use my batch, not least because I
execute other stuff once a day at Startup using it, eg backup the firewall
config files, run Empty Temp Folders, delete the ebooks and PrintMe folders
etc (I use the same batch in 9x too, obviously skipping the Erunt part of
it).

Cheers,


Shane
 
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Shane

Art said:
I'm also a big fan of both those utils now that I'm using Win 2K. And
I'm in total agreement with a post you made in a different thread
concerning the use of more than one kind of backup/restore. I've
had good results with tests (trial runs) of XXCLONE in conjunction
with a removeable backup hard drive. I chose FAT32 for for Win
2K ... sorta keeping one foot back in the familiar while putting one
foot forward into the unfamiliar world of NT based OS. So far it's
worked out ok. I have some command line utils (DOS) I don't
want to abandon which only work with FAT.

I've downloaded XXCLONE and will try it myself soon. I also note there's a
plugin for it for Bart's PE (something I've neglected of late!).

Shane
 

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