One of the many great improvements in Vista

[Qu0ll]

Vista is great isn't it? I mean it has added so many new features to XP and
improved the interface. Like the new network and internet status icon in
the status bar. Now all the useless information such as the speed of your
internet connection (from the DSLAM to your ADSL modem/router) is completely
hidden from view. You have nothing to fear anymore - no matter how many
nested windows and icons and no matter how much double-clicking and
navigation you do you will not come across this completely useless piece of
information anywhere. I mean who wants to know the speed of their internet
connection? I don't care if I have connection problems, questionable
download speeds or if I am just curious I know I will never need to know the
connection speed. Just because under XP it would automatically appear when
the mouse moved over the internet status icon why would you expect that to
be retained under Vista? I mean let's not show it anymore and while we're
at it why not remove the ability to determine altogether? Instead, let's
just show the LAN speed (100MBs in my case) because that never varies and
users must like being reassured of the same LAN speed every day.

Now, if only they had disabled logging into the router via a browser and
navigating several layers of menus to determine the connection speed. They
must have missed that one.

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[Mike Hall - MVP]

My XP computers only show LAN speed when connected through a router..

Vista is great isn't it? I mean it has added so many new features to XP
and improved the interface. Like the new network and internet status icon
in the status bar. Now all the useless information such as the speed of
your internet connection (from the DSLAM to your ADSL modem/router) is
completely hidden from view. You have nothing to fear anymore - no matter
how many nested windows and icons and no matter how much double-clicking
and navigation you do you will not come across this completely useless
piece of information anywhere. I mean who wants to know the speed of
their internet connection? I don't care if I have connection problems,
questionable download speeds or if I am just curious I know I will never
need to know the connection speed. Just because under XP it would
automatically appear when the mouse moved over the internet status icon
why would you expect that to be retained under Vista? I mean let's not
show it anymore and while we're at it why not remove the ability to
determine altogether? Instead, let's just show the LAN speed (100MBs in
my case) because that never varies and users must like being reassured of
the same LAN speed every day.

Now, if only they had disabled logging into the router via a browser and
navigating several layers of menus to determine the connection speed.
They must have missed that one.

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-Q
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[Qu0ll]

My XP computers only show LAN speed when connected through a router..

My XP machines have 2 status icons - one for the LAN and one for the
internet gateway. Hover over the gateway and the connection speed is shown.
Very, very handy.

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[Richard Urban]

I guess you never just read these news groups to better yourself, right.
Read yesterdays posts and find one where I have a link to a very useful
"free" utility that will show you most everything you would wish to see
about your internet connection.

Of course. all you really want to do is bitc*.

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Richard Urban
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Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Qu0ll]

I guess you never just read these news groups to better yourself, right.
Read yesterdays posts and find one where I have a link to a very useful
"free" utility that will show you most everything you would wish to see
about your internet connection.

Of course. all you really want to do is bitc*.

Calm down Richard. That nifty little utility you refer to does absolutely
nothing on my system other than display a lot of zeros even when I am
downloading files. And it looks as though it's going to show (when it
actually works) the _download_ speed and not the _connection_ speed which is
what I am "bitc*ing" about. And what does it have to do with the fact that
Vista has removed an important feature just because they couldn't work out
how to enable it with their new interface? If MS concentrated more on
function rather than appearance they would have a substantially better
product.

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[Richard Urban]

You want what XP had - use XP.

If your actual download speed when downloading a hundred meg file is
***NOT*** your connection speed, I certainly would like to hear what *YOU*
call it!

I have put this utility on every computer I service or build (for the past 3
years). I now place it on Vista computers I service. It works. What have YOU
done with your computer that breaks it? UAC maybe? Turned off other
services to save resources. I have not seen an install fail yet and I have
never seen an instance where it does not show:

1. Download speed

2. Upload speed

3. Accumulating daily, weekly and monthly information logs as to just how
many meg/gig of information has been transferred to/from your computer and
the speed at which the transfers has been accomplished at.

4. Alarms to show when your predetermined upload/download threshold has
been passed (a great way to find out if your computer is compromised and you
are spewing out hundreds of megs of spam per day to annoy your internet
friends)

As to your connection speed! What are you looking for? The theoretical
connection speed advertized by your ISP, or the actual speed at which your
connection operates at. Which one do you think is actually the more
pertinent? You want your advertised speed, call your ISP. You want to
actually "know" what your computer is doing - use this utility!

Therefore, I will guess that all you did was go to the web page and read
about it. You didn't really install it to see what it is capable of doing.

Again, all you want to do is bitc*!

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Qu0ll]

[snip rantings]

Richard, you really do need to take a few deep breaths. I DID install the
utility and it DOESN'T WORK on my machine! Please don't call me a liar.
Maybe it's a 64-bit thing, maybe it doesn't like the way I connect to the
net - I don't know. All I know is that it doesn't display anything except
0.0 for ALL VALUES on my machine. Yes, it looks like it has a lot of really
nice features that would all be wonderful IF IT ACTUALLY WORKED!

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[Richard Urban]

Well, seeing as how 99 point something percent of all computers are using 32
bit operating systems, and that the fellow is a lone individual working by
himself - I would guess that he developed for 32 bit.

Too bad you can't use this fine utility.

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Qu0ll]

Too bad you can't use this fine utility.

Too bad Vista removed an important feature of XP.

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[Mike Hall - MVP]

Not all XP users had it or knew of it's existence..

Too bad Vista removed an important feature of XP.

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[Qu0ll]

Not all XP users had it or knew of it's existence..

So that's why they removed it?

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[Adam Albright]

Calm down Richard. That nifty little utility you refer to does absolutely
nothing on my system other than display a lot of zeros even when I am
downloading files. And it looks as though it's going to show (when it
actually works) the _download_ speed and not the _connection_ speed which is
what I am "bitc*ing" about. And what does it have to do with the fact that
Vista has removed an important feature just because they couldn't work out
how to enable it with their new interface? If MS concentrated more on
function rather than appearance they would have a substantially better
product.

Little Richie always gets his shorts bunched up, it is so typical of
fanboys. Many have such sheltered, unproductive lives, mostly being
shills for Microsoft, they know little of the real world. <snicker>

While not free, DU Meter it is cheap, ($20). It can monitors both
upload and download traffic, shows it in a real time graph display if
you like or just sits quietly on the task bar until you call it up.
Has features like a stop watch so you can see what kind of true
download speeds you're really getting and how much actual data gets
downloaded or uploaded over a precise time span you can set and watch
in real time. Also logs a bunch of data like how much you downloaded
by day, week, month, etc.. Works fine under Vista. You can download a
fully working trial to see if it meets your needs. Not something
everybody needs or wants, I've used it for years when I was testing
various ISPs to test their performance and just got in the habit of
letting it run in the background. Just uses about 4K of resources.

http://www.dumeter.com/

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

It appears if Internet Connection Sharing is instigated..

So that's why they removed it?

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[cvp]

I agree that it's a fine utility and, as a point of reference, have no
trouble at all running it on Vista-64. In fact it states during install that
it supports all Windows 64-bit OSes.

Well, seeing as how 99 point something percent of all computers are using
32 bit operating systems, and that the fellow is a lone individual working
by himself - I would guess that he developed for 32 bit.

Too bad you can't use this fine utility.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

[snip rantings]

Richard, you really do need to take a few deep breaths. I DID install
the utility and it DOESN'T WORK on my machine! Please don't call me a
liar. Maybe it's a 64-bit thing, maybe it doesn't like the way I connect
to the net - I don't know. All I know is that it doesn't display
anything except 0.0 for ALL VALUES on my machine. Yes, it looks like it
has a lot of really nice features that would all be wonderful IF IT
ACTUALLY WORKED!

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And loving it,

-Q
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