Offline validation of a genuine Windows?

[Guest]

I suppose that I need to let Microsoft validate my copy of Windows XP before
I can install and use Windows Defender (april version), that´s my only
conclusion from my experience with different configurations of my computers.

My case is, that all my desktop computers are offline (no internet
connection available). They are all, of course running legitimates windows
copy´s.

My question is:
Is it possible to have an offline validation by running the validation tool?

 

[Guest]

I think you can activate it by phone,if you press on validation icon in the
start menu i thin you will see activate by phone option is exisiting

 

[kurttrail]

I suppose that I need to let Microsoft validate my copy of Windows XP
before I can install and use Windows Defender (april version), that´s
my only conclusion from my experience with different configurations
of my computers.

My case is, that all my desktop computers are offline (no internet
connection available). They are all, of course running legitimates
windows copy´s.

My question is:
Is it possible to have an offline validation by running the
validation tool?

My question is why do you need an anti-spyware tool on computers not
connected to the net?

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[Guest]

You can activate it with Script Also

Activating Windows Offline

Uses the offline method to activate Windows. Requires Windows XP or Windows
..NET Server, and a valid activation number.

strComputer = "."
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" _
& "{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
Set colWindowsProducts = objWMIService.ExecQuery _
("Select * from Win32_WindowsProductActivation")
For Each objWindowsProduct in colWindowsProducts
ObjWindowsProduct.ActivateOffline("1234-1234")
Next

 

[kurttrail]

I think you can activate it by phone,if you press on validation icon
in the start menu i thin you will see activate by phone option is
exisiting

You are confused. Activation and Validation are two separate and
distinct things.

Activation (MPA)

Validation (WGA)

Only Activation has a phone option. And the OP is asking about
Validation (WGA).

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[Beck]

I suppose that I need to let Microsoft validate my copy of Windows XP
before I can install and use Windows Defender (april version), that´s
my only conclusion from my experience with different configurations
of my computers.

My case is, that all my desktop computers are offline (no internet
connection available). They are all, of course running legitimates
windows copy´s.

My question is:
Is it possible to have an offline validation by running the
validation tool?

Why do you need Windows Defender on computers that have no access to
internet?

 

[Guest]

I have already activated my copy of Windows on the computer wich I intend to
install Windows Defender.

I did it over the phone, and I must admit, not without hazzle. At first it
dit not activate. So I had to talk to a person on the phone to get the
activation code.

(The possible reason of not getting the activation code automatically, must
be the relatively short interval between a previous activation and that one.
I was restoring an image of my windows installation, when the activation key
hit my computer in the need for an activation. A copy of the activation key
did not help under Administrator in Safe mode, possibly because of an new
harddrive installment).

So my question is still the same!

 

[Guest]

Thank you Adel Darwesh, for the script!

For the question of why I do need software like Defender when systems are
not connected:

It has to do with the possibility of an unautorized software activity wich
can influence the performance and security of the system, and others
possibly. And of course when the computers finally get connected, will I be
secure, or what?

 

[kurttrail]

I have already activated my copy of Windows on the computer wich I
intend to install Windows Defender.

I did it over the phone, and I must admit, not without hazzle. At
first it dit not activate. So I had to talk to a person on the phone
to get the activation code.

(The possible reason of not getting the activation code
automatically, must be the relatively short interval between a
previous activation and that one. I was restoring an image of my
windows installation, when the activation key hit my computer in the
need for an activation. A copy of the activation key did not help
under Administrator in Safe mode, possibly because of an new
harddrive installment).

So my question is still the same!

And until you answer the question of why you need an antispyware product
on computers not connected to the internet, then your question will
probably go unanswered.

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[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

How do you expect Windows Defender to download the
most current spyware signatures if your PCs do not have
internet access? Everyday, some unscrupulous person
creates and unleashes new spyware!

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Windows - Shell/User
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:

| Thank you Adel Darwesh, for the script!
|
| For the question of why I do need software like Defender when systems are
| not connected:
|
| It has to do with the possibility of an unautorized software activity wich
| can influence the performance and security of the system, and others
| possibly. And of course when the computers finally get connected, will I be
| secure, or what?

 

[Beck]

Thank you Adel Darwesh, for the script!

For the question of why I do need software like Defender when systems
are not connected:

It has to do with the possibility of an unautorized software activity
wich can influence the performance and security of the system, and
others possibly. And of course when the computers finally get
connected, will I be secure, or what?

Okay but you are only as secure as the latest definitions. If you want to
be secure for when you are connected you are going ot have to find a way to
update the definitions on a regular basis, otherwise there is not point in
even installing it

 

[Guest]

Carey Frisch and Beck!

Of course I know the definition thing.

Than the case must be, at least for the software industry:

1. Offline computers are definitely save, or WHAT????

2. Or, makers of software like Windows Defender, do not provide updates for
non connected computers for the reason of software integretty (sorry for my
bad english).

Some of them do provide the updates, and that´s nice! But many of them do not,
like Symantec, at least not for home software. I have Norton Internet
Security 2005 (shipped with a newly bought hardware), but don´t use it
because of the update thing.

I thought Defender (Beta) came in each new version with updated definitions
files.
But today after an installation of the april version on my periodically
connected laptop, it was not the case (93 days old definition files).

If this must be the case, than I have to forget the fairly nice Windows
Defender (Beta) for my non connected computers, and instead install free
software each time it comes in a new verion, if they don´t provide offline
updates.

 

[Guest]

And of course, I know the difference of anti-spyware and anti-virus!

 

[Beck]

If this must be the case, than I have to forget the fairly nice
Windows Defender (Beta) for my non connected computers, and instead
install free software each time it comes in a new verion, if they
don´t provide offline updates.

I have an idea which may suit your needs. Download Spybot Search and
Destroy, copy it to disc and install it on the machines.
You can then periodically download definitions and install them seperately.
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html

There is also an article on the front page comparing Spybot to windows
defender. Probably a bit biased but worth reading.
http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html

Running Spybot once a week or month will give you the peace of mind that
software you are installing isn't full of spywares. Its not a realtime
protection from the internet so may suit your needs better.

 

[Guest]

I have been aware of Spybot for the past few years, and used it once. I did
like it, but perhaps too much.

It had some interesting modules, so interesting that I hoped the guy (don´t
remember his name) was save, and still hope, if I´m going to let it run.

This is the reason why I prefer good old Microsoft. At least I know who is
managing the security in the background.

But maybe I´m overly cautious.
I have my copy of Spybot, and will it give it a try.

 

[Beck]

I have been aware of Spybot for the past few years, and used it once.
I did like it, but perhaps too much.

It had some interesting modules, so interesting that I hoped the guy
(don´t remember his name) was save, and still hope, if I´m going to
let it run.

This is the reason why I prefer good old Microsoft. At least I know
who is managing the security in the background.

But maybe I´m overly cautious.
I have my copy of Spybot, and will it give it a try.

As far as I know it is a well respected program and probably one of - if not
the best spyware removal.

 

[kurttrail]

I have been aware of Spybot for the past few years, and used it once.
I did like it, but perhaps too much.

It had some interesting modules, so interesting that I hoped the guy
(don´t remember his name) was save, and still hope, if I´m going to
let it run.

This is the reason why I prefer good old Microsoft. At least I know
who is managing the security in the background.

But maybe I´m overly cautious.
I have my copy of Spybot, and will it give it a try.

LOL! You are gonna trust MS, the people that made computing insecure
and open to spy/malware in the first place to protect your computers?
That's like asking the French to defend your country against the
Germans!

Spybot is an excellent program. Much better and more configurable than
any MS product.

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Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[Guest]

Perhaps it is true that MS could have made their software differently in the
past.

But I cannott let myself ponder on this for the sake of those who have
fallen victim to the digital unwise who I believe, must be just another act
in the natural order of things. Often the strong and blameless are the
victims of persecution. But of course Microsoft is not so blameless, that is
very sure.

MS did their best I suppose to make software for the homely audience, the
userfriendly and all in one go demanding. Thats not changing, and the
unsecurity will not change.

This is for sure: that never will a software be secure as long as the
potential for harm exists among or before us. This must be a logical
consequence of the natural things of order.

I aknowledge the fact that Windows Defender beta is only an option. It´s not
full blown anti-spyware, and its only in its beta testing.

 

[Chuk]

LOL! You are gonna trust MS, the people that made computing insecure
and open to spy/malware in the first place to protect your computers?
That's like asking the French to defend your country against the
Germans!

No, its more like asking the USA to protect Iraq

 

[kurttrail]

No, its more like asking the USA to protect Iraq

ROFL!

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Kurt Kirsch
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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."