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Good example of your replies.
What is "open a windows"?
You should have said, "open Windows Explorer".
Is this a reply that you would want to post again?
It is not a reply that would have helped everyone reading it.
 
My last post did NOT get posted for whatever reason so I will try again.
I swear I have walked in on some School Playground here. I see people
who are trying to self proclaim themselves as Professionals, taking part in
over 60 posts against ONE person. They talk to each other as if they are the
same Merry-Go-Round when in fact they are hundreds or thousands of miles
apart and have never laid eyes on each other. Gives the board a very
UNPROFESSIONAL appearance and the very people who are wanting to be deemed as
Professionals are the worst culprits here.
I have seen them tear apart the guys English and I have seen bashing,
and preaching about how a person should post. Maybe some of you people should
start your OWN websites where you can pick and choose who will be allowed to
post.
When people come to these boards seeking advice if they are at least ten
years old I would think they have enough Common Sense to know that when they
see masses of people and masses of subjects that real Professional Experts
will be Camoflaged pretty good. These people have found their way onto the
Internet and to the Website and to the proper Newsgroup, which in itself is a
challenge and and have found a related subject, so I would think they have
enough Common Sense to know that there are ALL types of people here. It is
obvious you have the Cut and Pasters, you have the very RUDE so-called
Professionals, you have the sarcastic and the freaks looking for attention
and yet you all have spent 60 some odd posts singlying out Pete and in my
Humble opinion have made fools of yourselves as you preach this and that and
try to act like this is some sacred Shrine.
It is a Newsgroup on the Internet and it is only as GOOD as everyone
involved, note I said EVERYONE. Pete may be guilty of trying to help when
maybe he shouldn't have, but the rest of you are far more guilty. You all
have spent your day bashing and critizing when all youhad to do was to post
and move on. It gives these boards a very Unprofessional appearence when over
60 posts are dedicated to bashing one guy and only a few chose to be
professional ad offer Good advice on a Level field.
I have re-formatted my hard drive at least a giga times over the years and
I have installed giga times all of my software, as well as nearly everyone
who offers advice. People learn by their failures and by mistakes. No one who
comes here is immune from learning as many of us have and to think they will
not have to learn the computer thru trial and error, you are only fooling
your own Professional selves.
This thread has been a eye opener for me and I have learned who has
decency within them and who are here for self esteem. You all need to climb
down off of your Soap Boxes and try acting like the Professionals you claim
to be.
 
the hand clapping was for Craig A, i saw the post he wrote but like he said
for some reason it didnt get posted, i have to say that his first post was
better but second one is still spot on, i am in his debt and people should
read it and take note.

cheers
 
Whew! Talk about preaching from your soapbox!!!
I'm sure your sweet sermon has made everyone here feel properly ashamed. And
I am sure everyone is really relieved that your eyes have been opened.
Just skimming through these notes, I may be wrong, but I don't recall seeing
anyone proclaiming themselves to be professionals. But the fact is that
there are several regular posters here who are recognized as true experts
and actually they are on the same merry-go-round even though they are
thousands of miles apart. And many of them do have their own excellent
websites.

BTW, anyone who posts drivel such as this...

<what diiff dOes It MakE HoW i WrITE Or WHO i Am, I AM tryIng To Help And i
Just GEt Abuse, Yes YOU Guys May kNOw A Lot MOre BUt iT WasnT AlWays Like
THat!!>

Isn't even close to acting like a professional and doesn't deserve to be
treated like one.
 
i never said i was a proffesional, just a helper, and writing like that was
to prove a point, like someone else said is not a writing class, now jump
down off YOUR soap box before you get a nose bleed from being up that high!!!!
 
what you mean is you didnt find one reply that you didnt know already!!

No, I meant exactly what I said, I didn't find a single answer that was
useful.
how come a post i replied to today when someone was told they could change
there region code more than 5 times, and it was tuff they had to buy a
new
recorder!!, what they were told was rubbish plain and simple, but i dont
see
anyone having a dig at them, please supply details of what i said to do
that
was going to damage somone ones system as you keep suggesting.

First of all, it is fairly easy to overcome the region code problem the
original poster described. There are software packages that modify the
drives BIOS, and others that simply by-pass region checking. I was unable
to find the thread, but in fact I did send a message to the poster that
suggested that the poster had to buy a new DVD drive. However, this person
had an eMail address that I could reply to in private rather than in public
which is the only recourse for people who use the web interface.

I see that you are unimpressed with the number of people telling you the
same thing about the worthlessness of your advice, so the only recourse is
to put you in the TWIT filter and just ignore both you ignorance and your
even more useless defense of your uselessness.

PLONK!
 
Craig
It appears that I also had a post that didnt.
It was for you.
Here it is again-

Hi Craig
May I take it that your diatribe was not completely directed at me. If not
then a reply to only my comments may have been more appropriate.
I have intertwined responses.

Craig A. said:
Antioch

That is NOT what I said and I do not laugh at people.

Didn't you say 'let the poster be the judge'
I suggested 'guinea-pig'
Or was it something else you say you 'did not say'?
This thread has invited over 40 grown adults to come in and mostly
Grandstand when all they needed to do was ignore the thread or only
answer once.

Agree = mea culpa
I have seen some Mature so-called Experts get very short with amateurs
that have come on here looking for a little assistance. They have been
treated rudely and very unprofessional by many of the very same who sit
and judge Pete

I too have seen such unprofessional behaviour.
I don't know Pete from Adam and I have offered advice on these boards
and I have received advice on these boards. I know of a couple of
individuals who do nothing more than all day long just cut and paste web
addresses for
answers and yet they go unscathed. Judge not and ye shall not be judged.

I guess I haven't been around long enough to spot them. They must exist I
suppose.
You only need to reach a tenth birthday or so to have the common sense
even if you are totally computer illeterate to know that when you come to
Newsgroups and see masses of people in them and masses of topics that you
will have your EXPERTS but they will probably be camoflage by any and
every Johnny Come Lately.

Well I'm passed my tenth, and you do not spot them that quickly. Sorry but
a rather inane comment!
I just can't beleive that people would actually find the time to write
short stories to Pete and preach to him about this and that and etiquette
and the such and then leave this thread and not practice what they preach.

We will have to wait and see if they do that - they might - they might not.
I have offered help and if I see some bad info, I don't cut the poster
down, I post my insertion and let the initial poster sort it out, what
else
can you do? You hope that the person asking the question has at least the
mentality to be able to use some real basic judgement.

Like tossing a coin when you get different answers?
After all they found their way onto the Internet and found the newsgroup...

No I was lead here by the nose - Malke lead me and most thankful I was.
.... and were able to sort thru the tree to the topic that closely matches
their needs, that I > would think would show that moisture would collect on
glass if held under their nose.

Ooops - lost you there. The sciences have never been my strongest subject.
So don't worry so much about the person asking the question,....

If that is your attitude, God help us mortals. But I am selfish - I do
worry if its me asking the question.
I have done no less than 100 high level formats and re-installed no less
than 6 giga
programs in my learning

Bully for you
and if you think for a single second people who post on these threads are
immune from those types of fates, I guess I have fallen asleep and woke up
in some other demension.

What fates? Must have missed them.
Shit happens and it eneeds to happen in order for people to develope and
proceed and prosper. It is all about the learning curve. It does and it
will
happen.

So true - one is supposed to learn by one's mistakes - I thought that was
why people come here - after they have buggered their system to learn - not
be given duff info. however well meant.
So lighten up and quit taking newsgroups so serious,

I cannot help but take advice seriously. Cant you remember a time when you
knew nothing about computers and their problems? I bet you didn't take it
all in a light hearted way!
,,,,,,if you all want to take it serious, start your own websites and
control who will talk
and who will not otherwise just do your best not to be a dipshit.

The above I assume is directed at others, as I have not a clue about what
you are saying.
you can lead a Bear far easier with Honey than you can with a whip.

Like a horse to water - so true.
There are many ways to correct someone but bashing is not on the list nor
degrading, nor insulting nor being rude or ganging up on someone, I
thought I
was on the school playground for awhile, I was reading the first few posts
and thought what the Hell is going on here? It was like someone was trying
to put up a NO TRESPASSING sign.

Yep, so did I - and I am no more proud of myself than you are of yourself
for joining in the virago type discussion. But I don't think poor Pete is
the first????
If Pete bothers you ignore him or try to offer some help, if you really
want to be a helpful person, be helpful to everyone, Lead by example.

Now you are putting words into my mouth - unless the comment is directed at
others!
No Pete does not bother me despite what has been said about him. You may
agree, it has been rather pathetic. I have no axe to grind about his
grammar, poetry, syntax or rhetoric. I have offered him help as well. Its
in my nature to do so having spent many years in public service. I know of
no other way in life. I must be leading
by example then.

I trust this clarifies my position - well it should a 10 year old, though
sadly not my granddaughter. After reading all this she would say 'Whatever'
Rgds
Antioch
'I have forgotten so much of what I never knew!'
 
....
:
: Pete
: --
: if at first you dont succeed try try LINUX!!!
:
....
You didn't succeed; go get Linux!
 
Antioch Read in your replies.

--
I Have forgotten so much of what I once knew.
"A Stranger is a Friend you haven''t met yet."


antioch said:
Craig
It appears that I also had a post that didnt.
It was for you.
Here it is again-

Hi Craig
May I take it that your diatribe was not completely directed at me. If not
then a reply to only my comments may have been more appropriate.
I have intertwined responses.
NOT DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU, MEANT TO ALL, KINDA, "IF THE SHOE FITS WEAR" TYPE OF REPLY


Didn't you say 'let the poster be the judge' I DID... THE ORIGINAL POSTER MUST BE A JUDGE ON WHETHER THEY ARE GETTING GOOD ADVICE, OTHER WISE THERE IS THE PAY FOR ADVICE ROUTE. ANYONE SHOULD REALIZE THAT NEWSGROUPS ARE FILLED WITH A MIX OF GOOD AND BAD POSTERS
I suggested 'guinea-pig'
Or was it something else you say you 'did not say'?


Agree = mea culpa


I too have seen such unprofessional behaviour.


I guess I haven't been around long enough to spot them. They must exist I
suppose.


Well I'm passed my tenth, and you do not spot them that quickly. Sorry but
a rather inane comment! NOT REALLY, DID YOU REALLY COME IN HERE WITH YOUR GUARD TOTALLY DOWN AND READY TO ACCEPT ANYTHING AND IF SOMEONE TOLD YOU TO REFORMAT, WOULD YOU HAVE? THAT WAS THE POINT.. PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A HALF A BRAIN TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH THE REPLIES AND KINDA JUDGE WHICH IS THE RIGHT ROUTE FOR THEM TO TRY. OTHER WISE THEY SHOULD BE HIRING A MECHANIC BECAUSE EVERY WILL WRAP THEIR KNUCKLES ON THE ENGINE BLOCK AT LEAST ONCE.


We will have to wait and see if they do that - they might - they might not.
IT WAS A SARCASIM,,,,, GEEZ!

Like tossing a coin when you get different answers? TOSSING A COIN LEAVES EVERYTHING TO CHANCE, GOD MAN HUMANS ABOVE THE ANIMAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO ABILITIES THAT ANIMALS DO NOT SHARE, LOGIC AND REASONING, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE TWO ABILITIES AND IF NOT, YOU REALLY DON'T BELONG ASKING QUESTIONS IN A NEWSGROUP BUT MAYBE A ONE ON ONE EMAIL.


No I was lead here by the nose - Malke lead me and most thankful I was.
YOU WERE A LUCKY ONE AND MANY ARE HERE ON REFERALS BUT DID SHE ALSO DO THE TYPING ON YOUR KEYBOARD FOR YOU OR WERE YOU ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT FUNCTION? COMING TO THIS NEWSGROUP IS NOT JUST BY CHANCE THERE IS A THOUGHT PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO FIND THEMSELVES HERE AND HOPEFULLY THAT ISN'T THE ENTIRE LIMITATIONS OF THEIR THOUGHT PROCESSING IF IT IS GOD HELP THEM....

Ooops - lost you there. The sciences have never been my strongest subject.
TREE IS AN OLD TERM FROM THE DOS DAYS FOR LOOKING AT DIRECTORIES AND SUB-DIRECTORIES THE OLD PROGRAM WAS CALLED X-TREE AND THAT WAS THE REFERENCE FOR THE NEWSGROUPS SUBJECT THREADS LOOK LIKE THE SAME TREE. MOSIURE ON THE GLASS MEANS THERE IS AIR GOING IN AND OUT OF THE NOSTRILS AND THEREFORE THERE MUST BE LIFE AND THEREFORE HOPEFULLY A THOUGHT PROCESS WITHIN THE GRAY MATTER, IT WAS ANOTHER SARCASISM, MAYNE I AM WRONG ABOUT THE LEVEL OF THINKING PEOPLE HAVE WHEN THEY COME INTO THESE NEWSGROUPS.... SORRY! I WAS THINKING OUT LOUD.

If that is your attitude, God help us mortals. But I am selfish - I do
worry if its me asking the question.
YOU SHOULD WORRY AND IF YOU WANT WORRY FREE I AM SURE MICROSOFT WILL GLADLY ACCEPT A CREDIT CARD OR CHECK FOR A ONE ON ONE HELP LINE.

Bully for you
NO! I HATE EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF IT BUT WAS A BIT WISER EACH AND EVERY TIME AND THE COMPUTER WAS PUT BACK TOGETHER A BIT BETTER EACH AND EVERYTIME... I EVEN FELL A FEW TIMES LEARNING TO RIDE MY BIKE... THE LEARNING PROCESS WITH COMPUTERS CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING AND NEWSGROUPS ARE LIKE THE AMERICAN SOCIAL SECURITY PROGRAM, IT ISN'T MEANT TO BE THE ENTIRE RETIREMENT BUT A CRUTCH TO LEAN ON A BIT. DO NOT PUT 100% OF YOUR FAITH IN ANY INTERNET REPLY, SOMETIMES YOU WILL BE VERY FORTUNATE AND OTHER TIMES YOU WILL BE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF A RE-FORMAT AND A RE-INSTALL WONDERING WHY THE HELL YOU LISTENED.

What fates? Must have missed them.
THERE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE AND THOSE WHO WILL RE-FORMAT AND RE-INSTALL.

So true - one is supposed to learn by one's mistakes - I thought that was
why people come here - after they have buggered their system to learn - not
be given duff info. however well meant.
MANY COME HERE TO AVOID THE INEVITABLE AND SOME LEAVE HERE DOING JUST THAT, BUT SOONER OR LATER THE RE-FORMAT OR RE-INSTALL OR BOTH BULLY WILL CATCH THEM.. THEN IT IS A TALL BOTTLE AND A GOOD ALARM CLOCK.

I cannot help but take advice seriously. Cant you remember a time when you
knew nothing about computers and their problems? I bet you didn't take it
all in a light hearted way!
I HATED EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF IT, EVERYTIME A CUSTOMER BOUGHT A COMPUTER AND WENT HOME AND COULD NOT DO WHAT THE DEMO SHOWED IN THE STORE IT WAS ONE RINGY DINGY TWO RINGY DINGY AND HOURS OF GUESS AND PRAYING. THIS WAS BEFORE HARD DRIVES AND THE SUCH AND THE LARGEST FLOPPY WAS A 8 INCHER THAT HELD 500K OF MEMORY AND REAL WORLD HAD A ALL IN ONE PKG FOR ACCT PAY AND REC AND GENERAL LEDGERS AND PAYROLL ETC, ONLY THING WAS THEY WOULD ONLY TALK TO STORE PERSONNAL AND THE STORE PERSONNAL HAD TO TALK TO THE CUSTOMER, I HAD YEARS AND YEARS OF HATING THEM GODANG COMPUTERS, NOW I ENJOY DOING MY MUSIC AND PHOTOS ON THEM AND DOING WHAT ONLY PEOPLE DREAMED OF DOING NOT TOO MANY YEARS BACK. I HAVE STILL HAD TO RE-FORMAT AND RE-INSTALL A FEW TIMES LAST YEAR AND THE NUMBER OF TIMES PER YEAR IS DROPPING BUT I KNOW I WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO DO IT, SOONER OR LATER.

The above I assume is directed at others, as I have not a clue about what
you are saying.
IF PEOPLE WANT TO DICTATE WHO CAN COME HERE AND POST QUESTIONS OR OFFER HELP THEN THEY CAN EASILY OPEN THEIR OWN WEB SITE AND CONTROL WHO IS GOING TO TALK AND WHO ISN'T

Like a horse to water - so true.
NO! LIKE EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.. A HORSE WILL GO TO WATER WHEN THIRSTY I AM TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO CONTROL A BEAR, A BEAR WILL FOLLOW YOU AND PRETTY MUCH LEAVE YOUR BUNS ALONE IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH HONEY AND IF YOU TRY TO GET CLOSE TO A BEAR CRACKING A WHIP, YOU WILL BECOME THE NEXT MEAL, I MET EXACTLY WHAT I WROTE, DANG DON'T YOU BRITS GET ANYTHING?

Yep, so did I - and I am no more proud of myself than you are of yourself
for joining in the virago type discussion. But I don't think poor Pete is
the first????
NO! PETE ISN'T THE FIRST, BUT I TOOK PART BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT TAKES JUST A TAP ON THE SHOULDER TO GET PEOPLE GOING BACK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I WAS HOPING I COULD HAVE MADE THE DIFFERENCE TO EVERYONE INVOLVED AND MAYBE HAVE LENT A HAND IN MAKING THIS BOARD MORE OF WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTING.

Now you are putting words into my mouth - unless the comment is directed at
others!
No Pete does not bother me despite what has been said about him. You may
agree, it has been rather pathetic. I have no axe to grind about his
grammar, poetry, syntax or rhetoric. I have offered him help as well. Its
in my nature to do so having spent many years in public service. I know of
no other way in life. I must be leading
by example then.
YES! YOU ARE AND I HAVE NO BEEF WITH YOU CUZ YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE I REFERED TO AS DECENT AND OFFERED A LITTLE HELP.... I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS POST YOU QUOTED ME AS SAYING HERE DIDN'T STAY, I CAN NOT SEE IT ON MY COMPUTER AND I ONLY JUST NOW SAW IT AGAIN IN YOUR QUOTES. BEFORE ANYONE STARTS RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS ABOUT ME USING ALL CAPS, THIS POST IS MEANT FOR YOU AND I USE CAPS FOR MY REPLY TO STAND OUT. IF IT ANOYS ANYONE ELSE TSK TSK IT IS A DIRECT REPLY TO ONLY YOU.
I trust this clarifies my position - well it should a 10 year old, though
sadly not my granddaughter. After reading all this she would say 'Whatever'
Rgds
Antioch
MY DAUGHTERS ARE OLDER THAN TEN AS WELL AND THEY WOULD HAVE SAID THE SAME
THING, MAYBE THE NEW GERANTION ISN'T TOO UP ON PATIENCE AND A FEW OTHER OF
THE OLDER TYPE QUALITIES.... HONOR, PRIDE, ESPIRIT DE CORPS, HONESTY,
RESPECT, DECENCY AND ON AND ON AND ON

GOOD DAY AND KEEP UP THE GOOD ADVICE AND KEEP AN OPEN MIND
 
Pete, your "writing like that was to prove a point" only proved one
point...that you are looking more and more stupid with every post.

If you want people to pay you some respect, EARN IT. I have not seen one
shred of evidence in this thread that you deserve anything other than a good
hard bitch-slap to wake you up.

When "someone else said is not a writing class (sic)" they meant this is not
a creative writing class, therefore YOUR creative writing in all lower-case
is NOT justified, hence the reference to e.e. cummings. They were not
defending your writing, they were scolding you for it.

The best thing you can do is stop posting for a few months and just sit back
and read the groups, PAY ATTENTION to the style and etiquette of the posts,
read a few books, then come back and post in a rational, adult manner.

Until then, GIVE IT UP!!!!

Gregg Hill



"Telesales Pete "No Expert!!!""
 
Craig A. said:
My last post did NOT get posted for whatever reason so I will try
again.
I swear I have walked in on some School Playground here. I see people
who are trying to self proclaim themselves as Professionals, taking part
in
over 60 posts against ONE person. They talk to each other as if they are
the
same Merry-Go-Round when in fact they are hundreds or thousands of miles
apart and have never laid eyes on each other. Gives the board a very
UNPROFESSIONAL appearance and the very people who are wanting to be deemed
as
Professionals are the worst culprits here.

<snip>

Yes, folks, we have another flag waver proclaiming how users should post in
Usenet but trying to deny that fact as he makes his points. Hey, Craig,
just because you are on the other side of the fence waving your anarchist
flag over there doesn't mean you don't get counted amongst the rest of us
proselytizing how to participate in Usenet. You're doing the same thing as
we are by making your proclamations. Welcome to the playground, Craig.
 
Gregg Hill said:
Thanks for the laugh. Loved the answer.

Gregg Hill


With a sadistic, twisted, "smile of the devil" on your face, no doubt.

You are like a second year primary school pupil,
puffed up with the fact that you've finally succeeded in learning your
alphabet,
and gloating maliciously over a pupil in the first year.

One day, perhaps, you may realise the poverty of your own lack of mental
abilities.

Jon
 
rotflmao said:
Whew! Talk about preaching from your soapbox!!!
I'm sure your sweet sermon has made everyone here feel properly ashamed.
And I am sure everyone is really relieved that your eyes have been opened.
Just skimming through these notes, I may be wrong, but I don't recall
seeing anyone proclaiming themselves to be professionals. But the fact is
that there are several regular posters here who are recognized as true
experts and actually they are on the same merry-go-round even though they
are thousands of miles apart. And many of them do have their own excellent
websites.

BTW, anyone who posts drivel such as this...

<what diiff dOes It MakE HoW i WrITE Or WHO i Am, I AM tryIng To Help And
i
Just GEt Abuse, Yes YOU Guys May kNOw A Lot MOre BUt iT WasnT AlWays Like
THat!!>

Isn't even close to acting like a professional and doesn't deserve to be
treated like one.


Well, I guess we all prefer people who are prepared to stand on soapboxes,
than those who have to hide behind a cowardly name change,
before feeling confident enough to post their mindless drivel.

Jon
 
Jon,

Steve's answer seems to apply amazingly well to you, too.

"I see that you are unimpressed with the number of people telling you the
same thing about the worthlessness of your advice, so the only recourse is
to put you in the TWIT filter and just ignore both your ignorance and your
even more useless defense of your uselessness."

I am not concerned with the starting point of Pete's initial thread. I was
responding to his childish behavior in every other post in this thread.

Gregg Hill
 
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