OEM version with new m/board & processor

[Gary Mount]

If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use my
OEM version of Vista?
The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that

"Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
as you go along."

when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
would violate the OEM license.

 

[lemorian]

Microsoft does not say what part of a computer defines the computer.
It says nothing about motherboards and cpu defining the computer.

HOWEVER MS has given the freedom to the companies that sell computers
to define what THEY think will be the computer. So where did you buy it
from?

Other than that, just activate by phone and tell them that your motherboard
exploded and you had to replace it
and you are not a tech so you dont know all about that stuff (play it dumb)
I am very sure you will be able to reactivate by phone

 

[Gary Mount]

I have been doing some searching and found this...

"Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new motherboard
is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you upgrade it you
need to purchase a new Windows license.

Microsoft's new policy states:

An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
created and the license of new operating system software is required.

The reason Microsoft gave for this term is that Microsoft needs to have one
base component "left standing" that would still define that original PC.
Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the
PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new
PC is essentially created.

Microsoft has sent a memo to its OEM partners asking them to enforce this
new policy every time they upgrade a computer for a client.
"

 

[Gary Mount]

I am just researching this topic so I can properly reply to another poster
in this forum/news group.
I have retail versions of Vista on my desktop machines, and a laptop with an
OEM Windows XP Home that won't be getting an O/S upgrade because the
processor sucks (a Intel Celeron).
So I don't have to worry about OEM license restrictions. My next motherboard
upgrade will be when Intel releases their Nehalem architecture late this
year.

 

[Alias]

I have been doing some searching and found this...

"Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new
motherboard is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you
upgrade it you need to purchase a new Windows license.

Microsoft's new policy states:

An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
created and the license of new operating system software is required.

The reason Microsoft gave for this term is that Microsoft needs to have
one base component "left standing" that would still define that original
PC. Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul"
of the PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than
defect) a new PC is essentially created.

Microsoft has sent a memo to its OEM partners asking them to enforce
this new policy every time they upgrade a computer for a client.

FUD from some blog. Read the EULA. Remember there are two types of OEM,
branded (like from Dell or HP) and generic, you bought it yourself. The
latter is what I was referring to, not the branded OEM. Branded OEM
versions cannot be upgraded except by using hardware approved by the
likes of Dell or HP.

Alias

 

[Charlie42]

"Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new
motherboard is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you
upgrade it you need to purchase a new Windows license."

<snip>

Are there any actual Microsoft sources that confirm this information?

Charlie42

 

[Saucy]

If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use my
OEM version of Vista?
The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that

"Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
as you go along."

when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
would violate the OEM license.

How do you define a new computer?

Saucy

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

If I change my mother board and processor, will I still be able to use
my OEM version of Vista?
The reason I ask is because I am being told in this forum/news group that

"Updating the motherboard and processor does not constitute a "new
computer". I can see you haven't read the EULA and are just making it up
as you go along."

when I say that changing the mother board and CPU is a new computer and
would violate the OEM license.

Is your OEM copy a branded OEM copy that came preinstalled on a machine
you purchased?

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[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

I have been doing some searching and found this...

"Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new
motherboard is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you
upgrade it you need to purchase a new Windows license.

Microsoft's new policy states:

An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
created and the license of new operating system software is required.

The reason Microsoft gave for this term is that Microsoft needs to have
one base component "left standing" that would still define that original
PC. Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul"
of the PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than
defect) a new PC is essentially created.

Microsoft has sent a memo to its OEM partners asking them to enforce
this new policy every time they upgrade a computer for a client.
"

Hi Gary, do you have a link for this new policy?


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[Ken Blake, MVP]

I have been doing some searching and found this...

"Microsoft recently made changes to the license agreement. A new motherboard
is now apparently the equal of a new computer, and if you upgrade it you
need to purchase a new Windows license.

Microsoft's new policy states:

I haven't seem this anywhere. If what you say is true, please post a
link to a Microsoft page that confirms what you say.

 

[SG]

Ken,

You want see this anywhere on a public site, it is posted in the MS OEM
forum. If you are not an OEM you can sign up through their Partner Program.

It states the following...

 

[the wharf rat]

If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect

Well, heck, my motherboard was defective. It wouldn't run a pci-e
video card! Had to junk the thing, a total loss.

When you could get an XP license for 75 bucks I'd just donate
the old machine to goodwill or whatever. But now that Windows costs
300 bucks I seem to have a lot more defective parts...

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Ken,

You want see this anywhere on a public site, it is posted in the MS OEM
forum. If you are not an OEM you can sign up through their Partner Program.

Then it's meaningless. The customer is bound by the EULA he gets with
the product. What it says on some web site that he can't even get to
is not legally binding on him.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Gary;
What type of OEM?

Generic, typically sold with a piece of hardware such as a power cord,
hard drive etc (but not always)?
There should be no problem since it is an upgrade of the same
computer.
Telephone activation may be necessary.

OEM such as comes from a major OEM such as Gateway, Dell, HP, Compaq
Etc?
Some of the major OEMs add technology that prevents installation on a
motherboard from a different manufacturer.
Contact the manufacturer, newsgroup or forum specific to that brand
for specific details.

 

[SG]

Ken,

Not meaningless exactly. According to MS the EULA must be presented to the
user on their first run. We all know what that means :>)
In the past you could just click OK without reading, then someone coded the
EULA in some apps where you had to at least scroll to the bottom before the
OK button would become enabled., still useless IMO.

These EULA's have been and will always be confusing to many, thus the
discussions we have seen many times on these groups.

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

Ken,

Not meaningless exactly. According to MS the EULA must be presented to
the user on their first run. We all know what that means :>)
In the past you could just click OK without reading, then someone coded
the EULA in some apps where you had to at least scroll to the bottom
before the OK button would become enabled., still useless IMO.

These EULA's have been and will always be confusing to many, thus the
discussions we have seen many times on these groups.

I am aware of the stipulation by MS that the EULA must be presented to
the user. IANAL, but common sense dictates then it would have to
stipulate such restrictions about the hardware in the EULA that is
presented to the user which means that there would be a hard link to the
hardware requirement on the MS website. Otherwise it is most likely an
unconscionable contract.

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[SG]

No argument from me on this :>)
It should be very clear to all and remove all the LAWYER talk so everyone
can understand it. VBG
If they would just use the KISS method.