oem?

[Guest]

if I was to upgrade my processor but keep the same motherboard would that
violate an oem license?

 

[Beck]

if I was to upgrade my processor but keep the same motherboard would that
violate an oem license?

There is nothing in the OEM license regarding motherboards.

 

[Guest]

There is nothing in the OEM license regarding motherboards.

So does this mean I could upgrade my motherboard without screwing up
activation?

 

[Guest]

you would probably have to re-activate, but you would be able to do so.
although, it might require phone activation.

 

[Alias]

So does this mean I could upgrade my motherboard without screwing up
activation?

You can update *anything* in your computer. What you can't do is move it
and install it on another computer. With Retail, you can do that.

Alias

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

What kind of OEM?
Generic OEM typically bought with a small piece of hardware?
You should be OK, phone Activation may be required.

OEM such as comes with a computer from a major manufacturer?
Since the motherboard is the same, you should still be OK, but you will
probably void your warranty.
Also, you may not be able to use your original install media if you decide
to change the motherboard with a board from another manufacturer.

 

[BSchnur]

if I was to upgrade my processor but keep the same motherboard would that

violate an oem license?

No, nor would it wake up Vista to a change regarding authentication. S

 

[BSchnur]

you would probably have to re-activate, but you would be able to do so.

although, it might require phone activation.

I doubt you'd need to reactivate -- the system is faster (replaced
CPU), but otherwise not any different. Could be wrong though. I know
increasing memory, changing memory speed, replacing video adapter have
not caused Vista licensing to wake up here.

 

[David Hearn]

You can update *anything* in your computer. What you can't do is move it
and install it on another computer. With Retail, you can do that.

Alias

So if I was to upgrade my motherboard (and processor and RAM) one week,
my graphics card the next week, my hard drive the next (via Ghost etc)
and then finally to upgrade my case the following week - would it still
be the same computer? I'd have upgraded practically everything and
it would physically look different.

D

 

[Beck]

So if I was to upgrade my motherboard (and processor and RAM) one week, my
graphics card the next week, my hard drive the next (via Ghost etc) and
then finally to upgrade my case the following week - would it still be the
same computer? I'd have upgraded practically everything and it would
physically look different.

Well according to the OEM EULA now, the license refers to the hard drive.
The OEM is linked to the hard drive it is originally installed on. It also
states that they class a partition as a hard drive.
So you should be able to upgrade everything except the hard drive.

 

[Alias]

So if I was to upgrade my motherboard (and processor and RAM) one week,
my graphics card the next week, my hard drive the next (via Ghost etc)
and then finally to upgrade my case the following week - would it still
be the same computer? I'd have upgraded practically everything and
it would physically look different.

D

Don't know about Vista cause I haven't seen the EULA but I have a
computer with XP Home on it and the only original thing left is the case
and the CPU. It's on its third motherboard. I have even replaced the
power supply. It activated on line.

Alias

 

[Paul-B]

Well according to the OEM EULA now, the license refers to the hard
drive. The OEM is linked to the hard drive it is originally installed
on. It also states that they class a partition as a hard drive. So
you should be able to upgrade everything except the hard drive.

Where is that stated in the OEM EULA? Can you quote the actual
paragraph?

 

[Alias]

Well according to the OEM EULA now, the license refers to the hard
drive. The OEM is linked to the hard drive it is originally installed
on. It also states that they class a partition as a hard drive.
So you should be able to upgrade everything except the hard drive.

So, if the hard drive goes south, you have to buy another copy of Vista?
That really sucks as hard drives are not famous for never failing. I
suspect this will be changed and is yet another reason to wait on Vista.

Alias

 

[Beck]

Where is that stated in the OEM EULA? Can you quote the actual
paragraph?

Maybe I am reading too much into it but the following quote...

INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently assigned to
the device with which you acquired the software. That device is the
"licensed device." A hardware partition is considered to be a separate
device.

a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the licensed
device. You may use the software on up to two processors on that device at
one time. You may not use the software on any other device.

 

[Alias]

Maybe I am reading too much into it but the following quote...

INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. The software license is permanently
assigned to the device with which you acquired the software. That device
is the "licensed device." A hardware partition is considered to be a
separate device.

a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the software on the
licensed device. You may use the software on up to two processors on
that device at one time. You may not use the software on any other device.

So if you buy it with no device, what's the deal? In Spain generic OEMs
are not required to be sold with hardware and never have been. I checked
the computer store web sites here and none of them have a hardware
purchase requirement to buy Vista.

Alias

 

[Sly Dog]

UNLESS the hard drive becomes faulty or fails - In which case the ORIGINAL
installation becomes corrupt and unusable.

So, that means that the EULA would be violated if the user decided to
upgrade the OS drive on a whim - And would, conceivably, wind up with two
working installations of VISTA between the old and new drives.

 

[Beck]

So if you buy it with no device, what's the deal? In Spain generic OEMs
are not required to be sold with hardware and never have been. I checked
the computer store web sites here and none of them have a hardware
purchase requirement to buy Vista.

I really do not know. Its ambiguous as usual and there seems to be a fair
amount of confusion.
As you say, some people may not have purchased a "device". Its open to a
lot of interpretation and people could be forgiven for thinking there are no
barriers if it is not in the eula that they agreed to. It could be tested
well in court.

 

[Sly Dog]

Could be that the part of the EULA discussed here applies more to the system
builders, such as DELL, etc., that lock down the OS within the system
restore disk to prevent OS installation on any non-DELL, non-HP,
non-Gateway, etc., computer.

And that for "the rest of us," the retail EULA more aptly applies in spite
of the fact "we're" using OEM installations.

 

[Beck]

Could be that the part of the EULA discussed here applies more to the
system builders, such as DELL, etc., that lock down the OS within the
system restore disk to prevent OS installation on any non-DELL, non-HP,
non-Gateway, etc., computer.

And that for "the rest of us," the retail EULA more aptly applies in spite
of the fact "we're" using OEM installations.

That may be true but try explaining to MS if I need to change a hard drive,
I bet they will not allow me to activate it again. lol

 

[Sly Dog]

At the risk of stating the obvious, the English-as-a-second-language folks
are not concerned with the details of the user's predicament - They are
merely trained to ask *the* three questions, to which the caller replies
with *the* three "correct" answers.