NTFS problem with files over 4 Gig

[Guest]

I think you will find that NTFS has a songle file size limit of 4GB.....

Try splitting the RAR file into 2 * 2Gb files?

 

[Tim Slattery]

Hello,

I have windows XP sp2 , on NTFS.
When I try to assemble a file that was in .rar into one file that should be
4.7 G. I have a write error message from winrar that it cannot accept files
over 4G and that only NTFS accepts them. Not enough space on the disk. 15
gigs left, should be more than enough.

You probably are trying to put this onto a FAT32 partition. You can't
do that. As the error message told you, FAT32 can only handle files as
large as 4GB. For larger files you must use NTFS.

 

[John Thomas Smith]

I think you will find that NTFS has a songle file size limit of 4GB.....

I don't know what a "songle" file is, but the limit of FAT32
is 4Gig, not NTFS

John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

 

[Ralf Baumhoefer]

http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm
http://www.mcmcse.com/windows_xp/guides/filesystems.shtml

It seems to me, Winrar writes to a FAT32 file system.
Maybe Winrar uses a Temporary Directory on a FAT32 drive,
or maybe Winrar is buggy and can't handle files greater than 4GB ??

 

[Yves Leclerc]

There is a newer version of Winrar that was just released.

 

[Ken Blake]

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I think you will find that NTFS has a songle file size limit of
4GB.....

Nope, that's the FAT32 limit. NTFS files can be as big as you
want them.

 

[Ken O]

Hello,

I have windows XP sp2 , on NTFS.
When I try to assemble a file that was in .rar into one file that should be
4.7 G. I have a write error message from winrar that it cannot accept files
over 4G and that only NTFS accepts them. Not enough space on the disk. 15
gigs left, should be more than enough.

Well thats what I have, Anyone know what problem that is from ?

Please answer here
thanks

Ken

 

[Ken O]

That could be it, I will try that, cause I have 2 HD, but everything is on
the NTFS one . Maybe just unplugg the Fat32 see what is does.

Ken

 

[Bob Harris]

NTFS has no single file limit, except for the total of the available space.
I have made several backup files > 4 Gig, and one video capture file over 10
Gig.

However, the FAT32 file system has a limitation of 4 Gig, and I recall that
a data DVD may also have that limit for a single file.

Check the format on the disk by right-clicking on the drive letter (e.g., on
C in windows explorer, then properties.

Also, an older version of WinRAR might be hardwired to assume the FAT32
limit.

 

[Ken O]

Thnaks for the help, that worked.

ken

That could be it, I will try that, cause I have 2 HD, but everything is on
the NTFS one . Maybe just unplugg the Fat32 see what is does.

Ken

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm
http://www.mcmcse.com/windows_xp/guides/filesystems.shtml

It seems to me, Winrar writes to a FAT32 file system.
Maybe Winrar uses a Temporary Directory on a FAT32 drive,
or maybe Winrar is buggy and can't handle files greater than 4GB ??

What a complete load of unadulterated baloney. Funny that it works on my
system then with four drives all NTFS formatted. Why, I assembled a 5GB file
only yesterday and it worked fine.

 

[Jone Doe]

Welcome back miss Tick, I've missed you.

What a complete load of unadulterated baloney. Funny that it works on my
system then with four drives all NTFS formatted. Why, I assembled a 5GB
file only yesterday and it worked fine.

 

[Alex Nichol]

I think you will find that NTFS has a songle file size limit of 4GB.....

I think you won't. It is FAT 32 that is limited to 4GB, NTFS is not.
But Winrar may well be written itself with a 4GB limit; the maximum size
where you can hold the number of bytes in a single 32 bit unsigned value

 

[Steve N.]

NTFS has no single file limit, except for the total of the available space.

Microsoft contradicts itself on this subject. From:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp

Implemented file size limit: 16 terabytes minus 64 KB

Implemented volume size limit: 256 terabytes minus 64 KB

And here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...oc/en/choosing_between_NTFS_FAT_and_FAT32.asp

File size limited only by size of volume.

Steve

 

[Ken Blake]

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Microsoft contradicts itself on this subject.

But regardless of which of the references below is correct, from
a practical standpoint it doesn't matter. Since there are no 16TB
drives at present, there is effectively no limit for now.

And that's probably the reason for the contradiction.The 16
terabytes minus 64 KB is probably correct, and the second
reference is just treating that number as being essentially
unlimited.

 

[Steve N.]

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But regardless of which of the references below is correct, from
a practical standpoint it doesn't matter. Since there are no 16TB
drives at present, there is effectively no limit for now.

Yes, there are 16TB drive arrays available. Not intended for
workstations, but they do in fact exist, and there's nothing stopping
someone from connecting such an array to an XP box.

And that's probably the reason for the contradiction.

There is no good reason for such a contradiction in what is considered
the source of authority.

The 16
terabytes minus 64 KB is probably correct,

Yes, the 16TB minus 64KB appears correct. Although this article applies
to Windows 2003 Server, it is the same NTFS as in XP:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...rv/2003/all/techref/en-us/w2k3tr_ntfs_how.asp

and the second
reference is just treating that number as being essentially
unlimited.

Which is wrong, which is my point. Sure, it's not going to apply to your
average XP user but I lean toward the side of accuracy, and with all due
respect, I would presume that Microsoft and MVPs would also.

Back in the days the 4GB limit in FAT32 seemed "essencially unlimited",
too. So did 640KB of RAM in the IBM PC in its day. The limit is there
and someone will bump into it eventually.

Yes, Virginia, there *is* a file size limit in NTFS and it is *not* the
same limit as for volume size in the present implementation of NTFS (as
shown below). It may not effect you at all, but it is there nonetheless.

NTFS Size Limits
Description Limit
Maximum file size Architecturally: 16 exabytes minus 1 KB (2^64
bytes minus 1 KB)
Implementation: 16 terabytes minus 64 KB (2^44 bytes minus 64 KB)

Maximum volume size Architecturally: 2^64 clusters minus 1 cluster
Implementation: 256 terabytes minus 64 KB ( 2^32 clusters minus 1
cluster)

Files per volume 4,294,967,295 (2^32 minus 1 file)

Happy New year!

Steve

 

[LVTravel]

Also, to refresh some people's memories. The original NTFS format from the
original NT OS had a limit of 4 GB per file size. This was changed with
updates to NT via SPs but the drive had to be reformatted with the updated
OS. If a person takes a NTFS formatted drive from an original NT machine
and plugs it into a 2000 or XP box the 4 GB size limit MAY remain. Ran into
this problem on an NT Server system at work many years ago.