Ntfs and Fat 32 again, sorry!

[Brian Gaff]

Hi, so apart from the speed aspects, what are the restrictions if you opt to
install Winxp pro on a Fat 32 volume, and...

can you for instance, have Win 98 and XP in the same volume if you do, is
there a max file size problem, and is there any way of moving an ntfs
working system over without manual reconfiguring all the software.

Strange questions perhaps, but us blind folk have differing priorities from
you sighted folk, namely, backward compatibility of screenreading software
and other applications, and huge configuration changes used on much of the
applications that w3e don't want to have to do again.

No, 'out of the box' for us, unfortunately!

Brian

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[phoenix]

Hi, so apart from the speed aspects, what are the restrictions if you opt to
install Winxp pro on a Fat 32 volume, and...

can you for instance, have Win 98 and XP in the same volume if you do, is
there a max file size problem, and is there any way of moving an ntfs
working system over without manual reconfiguring all the software.

Strange questions perhaps, but us blind folk have differing priorities from
you sighted folk, namely, backward compatibility of screenreading software
and other applications, and huge configuration changes used on much of the
applications that w3e don't want to have to do again.

No, 'out of the box' for us, unfortunately!

Brian

Brian

The maximum file size for a FAT32 system is 4Gb (minus 1 byte). You will
also lose the XP file security if you have it on a FAT32 partition and,
yes, you can have XP & 98 on the same volume but you will need them
installed in different folders.

When you say 'move the NTFS system', what is it you're trying to do?

Regards

Bill

 

[Plato]

Strange questions perhaps, but us blind folk have differing priorities from
you sighted folk, namely, backward compatibility of screenreading software
and other applications, and huge configuration changes used on much of the
applications that w3e don't want to have to do again.

Apps generally dont care what file system you use.

 

[Brian Gaff]

Well, I have an ntfs installation, and its a real pain with so many things
not allowed and if I want a Win 98 installation, at best its a one way file
transfer.

I'd really like to alter the thing, but keep everything as it is to save
hours of reconfiguring .

So, I have a spare drive, and a sighted friend. If I could get the current
system running on the fat 32 drive, then add the Win 98 as a multiboot, I'd
be a happy person.

Brian

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[phoenix]

Well, I have an ntfs installation, and its a real pain with so many things
not allowed and if I want a Win 98 installation, at best its a one way file
transfer.

I'd really like to alter the thing, but keep everything as it is to save
hours of reconfiguring .

So, I have a spare drive, and a sighted friend. If I could get the current
system running on the fat 32 drive, then add the Win 98 as a multiboot, I'd
be a happy person.

Brian

Well, the problem would be transferring XP to a different drive. It's
possible to move it but it's a real pain and doesn't (I think) always work.
Is XP installed on the first boot drive c:? I don't understand what it is
you can't do with NTFS when you say 'so many things not allowed'? Are you
having problems running 'older' software? If that's the problem have you
tried running the application in compatibility mode?

Regards

Bill

 

[Brian Gaff]

I need to have two way exchange of files with Win 98, as my screenreader
that I used on the old 98 machine works with some software that the new one
will not. So, my only option is to maintain the files on fat 32 from 98, but
if and when the screenreader I use on XP can cope with the software, i can
simply point it at the same files and carry on. Also, sighties can use the
same files on XP, no problems, and we will not end up with two versions of
the same database, no doubt one not up to date!!

Also, another 98 based machine is used at another location and uses
Drivespaced floppies to exchange datea for reasons I cannot explain. I
cannot read these in XP of course.

Brian

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[Alex Nichol]

Hi, so apart from the speed aspects, what are the restrictions if you opt to
install Winxp pro on a Fat 32 volume, and...

can you for instance, have Win 98 and XP in the same volume if you do, is
there a max file size problem, and is there any way of moving an ntfs
working system over without manual reconfiguring all the software.

I would most strongly urge not trying to have two systems on the same
partition (volume). At the very least they will fight over having
different versions of programs, both in Program Files. Have a separate
one for the XP and install from the 98, taking new install and selecting
the other partition as the place for the system.

XP can work with any mix of FAT32 and NTFS partitions, and will see all
of them - no matter which is used for the partition where it is
installed. Win98 cannot see NTFS ones, at all.

 

[Brian Gaff]

I would most strongly urge not trying to have two systems on the same
partition (volume). At the very least they will fight over having
different versions of programs, both in Program Files. Have a separate
one for the XP and install from the 98, taking new install and selecting
the other partition as the place for the system.

XP can work with any mix of FAT32 and NTFS partitions, and will see all
of them - no matter which is used for the partition where it is
installed. Win98 cannot see NTFS ones, at all.

As you see from my other replies, I know that 98 cannot see ntfs, hence my
need for fat32. I should have specified it to start with, it would have
removed a whole layer of grief i have had since I got the machine. sure,
ntfs is great, if you don't want to have any way to access old software that
is integral in your ability to use the machine for some tasks. Rebooting
into another OS, is a minor inconvenience, and although I'll be doing sound
editing, I'll not be violating the 4gig limit in one file.

I'll not be running games either.

Brian

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[Alex Nichol]

Rebooting
into another OS, is a minor inconvenience, and although I'll be doing sound
editing, I'll not be violating the 4gig limit in one file.

And I repeat - if you want to dual boot between two different OSes,
have them in different partitions. DO NOT try to have them in separate
folders on the same one

 

[Brian Gaff]

Yup, got the idea. Makes sense if you think about it.

Brian

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