Now I Understand

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Pennywise

I remember being very impressed with Amiga. A buddy of mine in Germany moved
up to an Amiga 500 back in'89. It was an awesome computer doing things that
neither Mac nor DOS/Win were doing yet.

Of course, that was almost twenty years ago.

I was Major Amiga 500, 2000, and the 3000. There was no Software for
the AmigA, the best stuff never made it out of Germany.

Sooo I grabbed software from any source available, people, pirate
sites, Internet with Pine (no sticking WWW for me.)

To kinda show you what I still have software wise.
I have Three wooden boxes like this one, three drawers each
http://i39.tinypic.com/5u1i11.jpg

Each drawer is filled with 720K floppy disk. (most of the disk were
1.4, but 720K was what the AmigA did.
http://i42.tinypic.com/fof67n.jpg

And yes indeed they are all in storage :)

I also ran one of the most popular BBS's in my area, Cnet, it was a
chat board with 6 lines.
 
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PerfectReign

I was Major Amiga 500, 2000, and the 3000. There was no Software for
the AmigA, the best stuff never made it out of Germany.

Ahh, that makes sense. I remember my friends (in Stuttgart) having shitloads
of software for his Amiga. Yet I never really heard of it other than in
passing here in the US. By that time, everything was pretty much Macintosh
vs. DOS for the home user. (I was on Vax and Mac systems at school.)


Sooo I grabbed software from any source available, people, pirate
sites, Internet with Pine (no sticking WWW for me.)

Yeah, all the software my buddies had (and traded) was either supplied by
pirate bbs' or they copied directly from unwitting software stores.
(Remember software stores?)

To kinda show you what I still have software wise.
I have Three wooden boxes like this one, three drawers each
http://i39.tinypic.com/5u1i11.jpg

Each drawer is filled with 720K floppy disk. (most of the disk were
1.4, but 720K was what the AmigA did.
http://i42.tinypic.com/fof67n.jpg

And yes indeed they are all in storage :)

I also ran one of the most popular BBS's in my area, Cnet, it was a
chat board with 6 lines.

What's you're area?
 
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Onideus Mad Hatter

Ahh, that makes sense. I remember my friends (in Stuttgart) having shitloads
of software for his Amiga. Yet I never really heard of it other than in
passing here in the US. By that time, everything was pretty much Macintosh
vs. DOS for the home user. (I was on Vax and Mac systems at school.)




Yeah, all the software my buddies had (and traded) was either supplied by
pirate bbs' or they copied directly from unwitting software stores.
(Remember software stores?)

Back in the day I got most of my software from schools, often directly
out of machines it was already installed on. It was real easy back
then to track all the parts of the program, its registry entries, etc
in order to install an installed copy. Of course a lot of software
back then was liak Agent, in that it made no changes at all to the
system outside of its own folder and was therefore super easy to copy
and distribute.

Pirating software is actually one of the things that really got me
initially interested in computers, later it became the drive for
multimedia that fueled my interest (and still does today)

I also remember the twilight years of the floppy, right before the
CD-ROM was the norm. Windows 3.11 was only liak 8 disks for the
standard US install, DOS 6.22 was something liak 3 I think, Office, I
can't recall the version, was some monstrous 40 some odd disks, Win95
was 13 I think...heh, I kinda miss floppies, as craptastic as they
were they were fun, much moar "personality" than CDs and flash drives.

I think a lot of software makers would benefit from distributing their
stuff on flash drives rather than CD/DVDs if it's not too bloaty,
getting a free flash drive with your software would be a good
marketing gimmick to get people to buy yer stuff.

Speaking of floppies and everything though, I find it kind of sad that
there isn't even *ONE* resource online that has historical data on the
number of floppies that software came on (at least not one I can find
and I spent a good two hours in Google).

I suppose we could start one here. Here's what I've gathered in my
searching:

5.25" floppies
=============
Windows 1.0 - 5 disks (40 track disks)
Windows 2.0 - 8 disks (WinWrite on Disk 9)
Windows 2.1 - 4 disks (80 track disks)

3.5" floppies
=============
Windows 3.1 - 6 disks (international printer drivers on Disk 7)
Windows 3.11 - 8 disks ( extra junk on Disk 9 )
Windows 95 - 13 disks

Of course a lot of these numbers are relative, I'm going by the
standard US versions here, international versions often had extra
disks for language chit and the liak.

I might set this up as site, where people can submit photos they have
of the installation disks and the site will keep track of the number
of floppies, what kind of floppies they are and what encoding format
was used. This could be a fun project.

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Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


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saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
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schoenfeld.one

Wondoes is not bad at all if you appreciate what it was made for. The
main purposes are "make big business bigger" and "allow the US
government to eavesdrop on everyone in the whole wide world" So from a

Windows was originally a good operating system without backdoors.

Remember the anti-trust suit against Microsoft?

They settled and some of the governments demands were backdoors in
windows which are well-known. Look up "NSA key windows".

Microsoft was strong-armed into giving NSA and Mossad backdoors into
everyones computers. But that doesn't excuse Bill Gates.

Whether the Jews strong-armed him or whether he went along voluntarily
it doesn't matter, he's now aiding and abetting the criminal network.

[...]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4204425.stm
"The foundation run by Microsoft magnate Bill Gates has announced it
is dedicating $750m (£400m) to a worldwide infant vaccination
programme. Mr Gates said the donation would help save millions of
children's lives."

Ohh I thought people around the world needed drinking water and food
stuffs?

You ever try to eat a vaccine? "ohh, I'm hungry please give my
shots!"; who believes that? But of course, the windoes crowd loves all
Billo rhetorics universally!

Good point. I forgot Bill and Melinda's foundation are masquerading
around the world as "helping poor blacks in africa" when in reality
they are

- steralizing the blacks with their "vaccines"
- testing out GM and other frankencrops on the blacks under the
guise of "nutrition".

I suspect Bill and Melinda are being subconciously manipulated.

They are just rich billionares who feel guilty and "want to help the
poor blacks".

Of course, the true order of things will rearrange what is such that
their desires are only met superficially, when in reality, they are
mere tools of the agenda.

[...]
 
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The Daring Dufas

Windows was originally a good operating system without backdoors.

Remember the anti-trust suit against Microsoft?

They settled and some of the governments demands were backdoors in
windows which are well-known. Look up "NSA key windows".

Microsoft was strong-armed into giving NSA and Mossad backdoors into
everyones computers. But that doesn't excuse Bill Gates.

Hell, the government forced Ma Bell to install a backdoor into
the national phone switching network so the alphabet agencies
could listen in on us to protect us from ourselves. All the
fiber it tapped by our "?servants?".
Whether the Jews strong-armed him or whether he went along voluntarily
it doesn't matter, he's now aiding and abetting the criminal network.

[...]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4204425.stm
"The foundation run by Microsoft magnate Bill Gates has announced it
is dedicating $750m (£400m) to a worldwide infant vaccination
programme. Mr Gates said the donation would help save millions of
children's lives."

Ohh I thought people around the world needed drinking water and food
stuffs?

You ever try to eat a vaccine? "ohh, I'm hungry please give my
shots!"; who believes that? But of course, the windoes crowd loves all
Billo rhetorics universally!

Good point. I forgot Bill and Melinda's foundation are masquerading
around the world as "helping poor blacks in africa" when in reality
they are

- steralizing the blacks with their "vaccines"
- testing out GM and other frankencrops on the blacks under the
guise of "nutrition".

African Negroes are doing a pretty good job of killing
themselves off. The best way to help them is to give
them is a hand up with education because human beings
are not inherently stupid, they're just ignorant and
because of ignorance do some incredibly stupid things.
Like poor planning for disaster and running up the
population beyond their ability to feed it. Tolerating
corruption as part of the culture which allows a handful
of people to decimate a society and the refusal by many
to do the simplest things to prevent the spread of disease.
These things are the greatest threats to the lives of my
African cousins, not Bill and Melinda. Most people forget
that there are 54 different countries that make up the
continent of Africa and that the population not homogeneous.
I have a lot of fun with people who tell me that they are
"African American". I always ask them which of the 54
countries or which region of Africa they are from. I get
a lot of blank stares. That education thing strikes again.
I suspect Bill and Melinda are being subconciously manipulated.

They are just rich billionares who feel guilty and "want to help the
poor blacks".

Of course, the true order of things will rearrange what is such that
their desires are only met superficially, when in reality, they are
mere tools of the agenda.

[...]
 
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Bluuuue Rajah

(e-mail address removed) wrote in (e-mail address removed):
Remember the anti-trust suit against Microsoft?

They settled and some of the governments demands were backdoors in
windows which are well-known. Look up "NSA key windows".

Juicy. Somebody needs to find the code that receives this datum and
reverse engineer it. Who is working on that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY
 
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catchme

Good point. I forgot Bill and Melinda's foundation are masquerading
around the world as "helping poor blacks in africa" when in reality
they are

- steralizing the blacks with their "vaccines"
- testing out GM and other frankencrops on the blacks under the
guise of "nutrition".

i dont know about the above statements, but I DO recall a quote where
Bill Gates discusses donating computers to a third world country through
his Foundation, reflecting on how so few people in that country reflects
in "low market share".
Using one's Foundation to increase market share in your own company,,,,
why arent exploitation, tax evasion and conflict of interest charges
pending?
 
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§ñühw¤£f

catchme said:
i dont know about the above statements, but I DO recall a quote where
Bill Gates discusses donating computers to a third world country through
his Foundation, reflecting on how so few people in that country reflects
in "low market share".
Using one's Foundation to increase market share in your own company,,,,
why arent exploitation, tax evasion and conflict of interest charges
pending?

Consider also that this "goodwill" effort only occured *after* the OLPC
project to get linux laptops to 3rd world kids was started.
M$ saw it as a threat to market dominance.
Giving kids wXP notebooks was the countermeasure.
FYI
HTH
 
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Bluuuue Rajah

i dont know about the above statements, but I DO recall a quote where
Bill Gates discusses donating computers to a third world country
through his Foundation, reflecting on how so few people in that
country reflects in "low market share".
Using one's Foundation to increase market share in your own
company,,,, why arent exploitation, tax evasion and conflict of
interest charges pending?

Maybe Washington doesn't have a law on the books prohibiting a business
conflict of interest for a large charity.
 
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Rev Turd Fredericks

The Daring Dufas wrote:
SNIP>>>
African Negroes are doing a pretty good job of killing
themselves off. The best way to help them is to give
them is a hand up with education because human beings
are not inherently stupid, they're just ignorant and
because of ignorance do some incredibly stupid things.
Like poor planning for disaster and running up the
population beyond their ability to feed it. Tolerating
corruption as part of the culture which allows a handful
of people to decimate a society and the refusal by many
to do the simplest things to prevent the spread of disease.
These things are the greatest threats to the lives of my
African cousins, not Bill and Melinda. Most people forget
that there are 54 different countries that make up the
continent of Africa and that the population not homogeneous.
I have a lot of fun with people who tell me that they are
"African American". I always ask them which of the 54
countries or which region of Africa they are from. I get
a lot of blank stares. That education thing strikes again.
hmmm, sounds like another place I know.
 

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