No Tif preview in XP Explorer when file is saved by Photoshop CS

[kristin]

Hoping for some help. Have googled this but not finding any real fits.

Tifs that I have saved in PhotoShop CS have no preview available in Windows
Explorer. This has just rrecently changed...Size of the tif seems to make no
difference seems to make no difference.

Tried using tools to change the preferences from PhotoShop to another
graphics program...to no avail.

When I save the same file as a tif with another program, for example Corel
PhotoPaint, the preview WILL be displayed in Windows Explorer.

Thanks for your help,
kristin

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Go here...

Windows® XP File Association Fixes
Copyright 2003 - Doug Knox
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/file_assoc.htm

Read the instructions. Then get...

TIF/TIFF File Association Fix (Restores default associations for TIF/TIFF
files)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[kristin]

Wes,

Thanks for your response and for the comprhensive list you've put together.
However, no luck. I am just about to give up and purchase Breeze Browser.
;-(

thank you, kristin

ps When I hover the mouse over any tiff file...not just those that do not
preview, not just those saved in Photoshop CS, the text now reads
correctly..before it read "Microsoft Office Document Imaging" even tho it
had been associated with PS in tools. ALSO...those files thaat I have
recently save...the files that have no visual previe, they also do not have
a summare. IE "no summary available"..so no pixel dimensions....etc.

 

[kristin]

sorry...should have proof read that...or used the spell check...for heaven's
sake!

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Hi kristin,

The old spiel chucker failed, huh? ;-)

Type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should get a popup message stating whether it worked.

Microsoft Office Document Imaging, Office may have hijacked the file
association.

See this.
TIF files not displayed in "My Pictures"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555243

This is the registry info mentioned in the article above.
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF
Value Name: (Default)
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: TIFImage.Document

Value Name: Content Type
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: image/tiff

Value Name: PerceivedType
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: image

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithProgids
Value Name: (Default)
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: (value not set

Value Name: TIFImage.Document
Data Type: REG_NONE
Value Data: (zero-length binary value)

Some more articles to look at. Ignore the titles, maybe the fixes will
help.

You cannot preview scanned TIFF file in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319196

Editing the File Property Summary Values May Damage TIFF/EX Files
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326774

You Cannot View TIFF Images Using Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/329270

Cannot open a tagged information file format (TIFF) File in Internet
Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319829

You cannot view pictures by using Windows Picture and Fax Viewer in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921048

TIFF image files that are compressed in the JPEG format cannot be correctly
opened by the Office Document Imaging tool in Office 2007 or Office 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885938

Pen, Highlighter, and Text Annotations are not available in Office Document
Imaging
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828507


About Microsoft Office Document Imaging
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HP010771031033.aspx

About Microsoft Document Imaging Format (MDI)
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HP062193601033.aspx

This registry key handles TileInfo, InfoTip and Details...
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image]
"TileInfo"="propimensions;Type;Size"
"InfoTip"="propimensions;WhenTaken;DocTitle;DocComments;
CameraModel;Type;Size"
"Details"="prop:Name;Type;Dimensions;Size;Write"

This key determines whether or not Windows XP displays an image preview..
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\ShellEx\
ContextMenuHandlers\ShellImagePreview]
@="{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066}"

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{E84FDA7C-1D6A-45F6-B725-CB260C236066}\
InProcServer32
(Default) = "%SystemRoot%\System32\shimgvw.dll"
ThreadingModel= Apartment

shimgvw.dll is the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066} is the CLSID for Shell Image Verbs,
which relates to Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

Just curious, why are you saving picture files as .tifs?

I found one .tif file on my machine. C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\Grphflt\MS.TIF I suspect that it's from MS Office,
it's the Office puzzle logo.

I was curious, so I did a Save As on a 28.3 KB .jpg file and saved it as a
..tif. The .tif files is 288 KB. Both images are 553 pixels by 431 pixels
and 72 by 72 dpi. I see absolutely no reason for .tif files. The .jpg
version actually looks like a better picture. There is some text in the
picture and it is clearer in the .jpg version. No wonder I only have only
one .tif file. I could see a thumbnail of the converted .tif file in the
tasks pane. The file type for .tif shows up as TIF Image.

I just noticed that when viewing a .tif in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
there is an Annotation toolbar, not seen with other image types. Big deal,
you can use MS Paint to do that.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[kristin]

Wes....

What does the dll that you posted do? I have not done that yet because:

I found that if I UNCHECKED a setting "save image pyramid" in the SAVE
dialogue of Photoshop, I can then view the images in Windows Explorer. I am
trying to work out exactly what purpose the image pyramid serves. I guess it
has something to do with resolution independence:

"Resolution independent means that the image data is organized inside the
file in a way that makes it possible to retrieve image data at various
resolution levels in an efficient manner."

To answer your question about why I am saving as tifs. They are layered
files; I want to retain the ability to edit the layers.

Thank you for all of this research...trying to get a handle on this...seems
there might be a bit of a struggle between Microsoft and Adobe on file
handling...Will keep you posted.

kristin

Hi kristin,

The old spiel chucker failed, huh? ;-)

Type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should get a popup message stating whether it worked.

Microsoft Office Document Imaging, Office may have hijacked the file
association.

See this.
TIF files not displayed in "My Pictures"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555243

This is the registry info mentioned in the article above.
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF
Value Name: (Default)
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: TIFImage.Document

Value Name: Content Type
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: image/tiff

Value Name: PerceivedType
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: image

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithProgids
Value Name: (Default)
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: (value not set

Value Name: TIFImage.Document
Data Type: REG_NONE
Value Data: (zero-length binary value)

Some more articles to look at. Ignore the titles, maybe the fixes will
help.

You cannot preview scanned TIFF file in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319196

Editing the File Property Summary Values May Damage TIFF/EX Files
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326774

You Cannot View TIFF Images Using Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/329270

Cannot open a tagged information file format (TIFF) File in Internet
Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319829

You cannot view pictures by using Windows Picture and Fax Viewer in
Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921048

TIFF image files that are compressed in the JPEG format cannot be
correctly
opened by the Office Document Imaging tool in Office 2007 or Office 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885938

Pen, Highlighter, and Text Annotations are not available in Office
Document
Imaging
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828507


About Microsoft Office Document Imaging
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HP010771031033.aspx

About Microsoft Document Imaging Format (MDI)
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HP062193601033.aspx

This registry key handles TileInfo, InfoTip and Details...
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image]
"TileInfo"="propimensions;Type;Size"
"InfoTip"="propimensions;WhenTaken;DocTitle;DocComments;
CameraModel;Type;Size"
"Details"="prop:Name;Type;Dimensions;Size;Write"

This key determines whether or not Windows XP displays an image preview..
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\ShellEx\
ContextMenuHandlers\ShellImagePreview]
@="{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066}"

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{E84FDA7C-1D6A-45F6-B725-CB260C236066}\
InProcServer32
(Default) = "%SystemRoot%\System32\shimgvw.dll"
ThreadingModel= Apartment

shimgvw.dll is the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066} is the CLSID for Shell Image Verbs,
which relates to Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

Just curious, why are you saving picture files as .tifs?

I found one .tif file on my machine. C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\Grphflt\MS.TIF I suspect that it's from MS Office,
it's the Office puzzle logo.

I was curious, so I did a Save As on a 28.3 KB .jpg file and saved it as a
.tif. The .tif files is 288 KB. Both images are 553 pixels by 431 pixels
and 72 by 72 dpi. I see absolutely no reason for .tif files. The .jpg
version actually looks like a better picture. There is some text in the
picture and it is clearer in the .jpg version. No wonder I only have only
one .tif file. I could see a thumbnail of the converted .tif file in the
tasks pane. The file type for .tif shows up as TIF Image.

I just noticed that when viewing a .tif in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
there is an Annotation toolbar, not seen with other image types. Big
deal,
you can use MS Paint to do that.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

sorry...should have proof read that...or used the spell check...for
heaven's sake!

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Hi kristin,

What does the dll that you posted do?

shimgvw.dll? Shimgvw.dll is the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer as stated in
my post. Shimgvw.dll is also responsible for the thumbnail view in Windows
Explorer.

When you open an image file (double clicking a file or right clicking and
selecting Preview) in Windows XP the default action is to preview it using
the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer no matter what other applications are
installed.

If shimgvw.dll is not registered properly in the registry Windows Picture
and Fax Viewer will not work for Previewing picture files and thumbnails
will not display in Windows Explorer or they will be displayed as generic
icons, also changing user account and desktop background pictures may be a
problem.

It looks like Photoshop is the problem, not Windows.

I see why you want the tiff files. I am a pedestrian when it comes to
picture files. I look at them and use the very powerful MS Paint to edit
them. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wes....

What does the dll that you posted do? I have not done that yet because:

I found that if I UNCHECKED a setting "save image pyramid" in the SAVE
dialogue of Photoshop, I can then view the images in Windows Explorer. I
am trying to work out exactly what purpose the image pyramid serves. I
guess it has something to do with resolution independence:

"Resolution independent means that the image data is organized inside the
file in a way that makes it possible to retrieve image data at various
resolution levels in an efficient manner."

To answer your question about why I am saving as tifs. They are layered
files; I want to retain the ability to edit the layers.

Thank you for all of this research...trying to get a handle on
this...seems there might be a bit of a struggle between Microsoft and
Adobe on file handling...Will keep you posted.

kristin

Hi kristin,

The old spiel chucker failed, huh? ;-)

Type or paste the following line into the Start | Run box and click OK...

regsvr32 shimgvw.dll

You should get a popup message stating whether it worked.

Microsoft Office Document Imaging, Office may have hijacked the file
association.

See this.
TIF files not displayed in "My Pictures"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555243

This is the registry info mentioned in the article above.
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF
Value Name: (Default)
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: TIFImage.Document

Value Name: Content Type
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: image/tiff

Value Name: PerceivedType
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: image

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithProgids
Value Name: (Default)
Data Type: REG_SZ
Value Data: (value not set

Value Name: TIFImage.Document
Data Type: REG_NONE
Value Data: (zero-length binary value)

Some more articles to look at. Ignore the titles, maybe the fixes will
help.

You cannot preview scanned TIFF file in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319196

Editing the File Property Summary Values May Damage TIFF/EX Files
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326774

You Cannot View TIFF Images Using Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/329270

Cannot open a tagged information file format (TIFF) File in Internet
Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319829

You cannot view pictures by using Windows Picture and Fax Viewer in
Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921048

TIFF image files that are compressed in the JPEG format cannot be
correctly
opened by the Office Document Imaging tool in Office 2007 or Office 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885938

Pen, Highlighter, and Text Annotations are not available in Office
Document
Imaging
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828507


About Microsoft Office Document Imaging
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HP010771031033.aspx

About Microsoft Document Imaging Format (MDI)
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HP062193601033.aspx

This registry key handles TileInfo, InfoTip and Details...
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image]
"TileInfo"="propimensions;Type;Size"
"InfoTip"="propimensions;WhenTaken;DocTitle;DocComments;
CameraModel;Type;Size"
"Details"="prop:Name;Type;Dimensions;Size;Write"

This key determines whether or not Windows XP displays an image preview..
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\ShellEx\
ContextMenuHandlers\ShellImagePreview]
@="{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066}"

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{E84FDA7C-1D6A-45F6-B725-CB260C236066}\
InProcServer32
(Default) = "%SystemRoot%\System32\shimgvw.dll"
ThreadingModel= Apartment

shimgvw.dll is the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066} is the CLSID for Shell Image
Verbs, which relates to Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

Just curious, why are you saving picture files as .tifs?

I found one .tif file on my machine. C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\Grphflt\MS.TIF I suspect that it's from MS
Office, it's the Office puzzle logo.

I was curious, so I did a Save As on a 28.3 KB .jpg file and saved it as
a .tif. The .tif files is 288 KB. Both images are 553 pixels by 431
pixels and 72 by 72 dpi. I see absolutely no reason for .tif files.
The .jpg version actually looks like a better picture. There is some
text in the picture and it is clearer in the .jpg version. No wonder I
only have only one .tif file. I could see a thumbnail of the converted
.tif file in the tasks pane. The file type for .tif shows up as TIF
Image.

I just noticed that when viewing a .tif in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
there is an Annotation toolbar, not seen with other image types. Big
deal,
you can use MS Paint to do that.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

sorry...should have proof read that...or used the spell check...for
heaven's sake!


Wes,

Thanks for your response and for the comprhensive list you've put
together. However, no luck. I am just about to give up and purchase
Breeze Browser. ;-(

thank you, kristin

ps When I hover the mouse over any tiff file...not just those that do
not
preview, not just those saved in Photoshop CS, the text now reads
correctly..before it read "Microsoft Office Document Imaging" even tho
it
had been associated with PS in tools. ALSO...those files thaat I have
recently save...the files that have no visual previe, they also do not
have a summare. IE "no summary available"..so no pixel
dimensions....etc.


Go here...

Windows® XP File Association Fixes
Copyright 2003 - Doug Knox
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/file_assoc.htm

Read the instructions. Then get...

TIF/TIFF File Association Fix (Restores default associations for
TIF/TIFF files)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In kristin <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hoping for some help. Have googled this but not finding any real
fits.

Tifs that I have saved in PhotoShop CS have no preview available in
Windows Explorer. This has just rrecently changed...Size of the tif
seems
to make no difference seems to make no difference.

Tried using tools to change the preferences from PhotoShop to another
graphics program...to no avail.

When I save the same file as a tif with another program, for example
Corel
PhotoPaint, the preview WILL be displayed in Windows Explorer.

Thanks for your help,
kristin