Newsreaders OT

[dszady]

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Top Newsreaders

Ranking Articles Newsreader
------- -------- ----------------------------
1 256 Microsoft Outlook Express
2 224 Xnews
3 173 Forte Agent
4 83 Mozilla
5 71 slrn
6 35 MicroPlanet Gravity
7 32 Pan
8 23 Forte Free Agent
9 15 Turnpike
10 7 An out of work anchor
11 7 MesNews
12 6 Virtual Access by Ashmount Research Ltd, http:
13 5 40tude_Dialog
14 3 XanaNews
15 1 WinVN
16 1 Turnpike Integrated Version
17 1 Geminisoft Pimmy
18 1 Noworyta News Reader
19 1 SNews
20 1 Forte-Agent

 

[Alastair Smeaton]

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Wow - some interesting stuff here

Gravity comes highly recommended by this group, yet slrn (Linux users
mostly, only ?) figures highly ?

And the subject of most debate recently, dialogue - 5 users - 1/50th
of the OE users

Interesting - thanks

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Wow - some interesting stuff here

Gravity comes highly recommended by this group, yet slrn (Linux users
mostly, only ?) figures highly ?

Most of those posts would be mine. I tend to post more when the
vandals are attacking the group.

And the subject of most debate recently, dialogue - 5 users - 1/50th
of the OE users

There'd be more, but their copies are timing out.

 

[rir3760]

It was a dark and stormy night when Alastair Smeaton

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Top Newsreaders

Ranking Articles Newsreader
------- -------- ----------------------------
1 256 Microsoft Outlook Express
2 224 Xnews
3 173 Forte Agent
4 83 Mozilla
5 71 slrn

[Snip]
Wow - some interesting stuff here

Gravity comes highly recommended by this group, yet slrn (Linux
users mostly, only ?) figures highly ?

Because it's the newsreader used by some of the regulars, e.g. Blinky
the shark.

And the subject of most debate recently, dialogue - 5 users -
1/50th of the OE users

An even more interesting statistic would be similar to this:
<http://web.ukonline.co.uk/davidgb/acf_stat4.html>

Of course that depends if dszady has the time and will to do it

Regards

 

[DC]

Alastair Smeaton wrote:
[snip]

And the subject of most debate recently, dialogue - 5 users - 1/50th
of the OE users

There'd be more, but their copies are timing out.

<badumbump> *crash*

 

[dszady]

It was a dark and stormy night when Alastair Smeaton

An even more interesting statistic would be similar to this:
<http://web.ukonline.co.uk/davidgb/acf_stat4.html>

Of course that depends if dszady has the time and will to do it

Regards

If I could find out how to do it w/o doing it manually would be fine.
By the looks of the variety of stats it would be probably easier to go
to jail for the rest of one's life than to compile all that!

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

An even more interesting statistic would be similar to this:
<http://web.ukonline.co.uk/davidgb/acf_stat4.html>

Of course that depends if dszady has the time and will to do it

It's done with GoldFind, freeware for use with Hamster.
<http://www.goldpool.org/>.

There are many readers that it does not know how to group. But
FWIW, here are the YTD stats, first by message count then by poster
count.

Header-statistics for: Newsreader (grouped, per msg.)
(based on msgs with bodies between 1/1/2003 and 10/31/2003)

alt.comp.freeware
63363 100.00% (probe count)
19205 30.31% "Microsoft Outlook"
13277 20.95% "Xnews"
9310 14.69% "Forte Agent"
5481 8.65% "Mozilla/NetScape"
4916 7.76% (not set)
3500 5.52% "slrn"
2818 4.45% "Gravity"
1647 2.60% "Forte Free Agent"
374 0.59% "Turnpike"
373 0.59% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.5.1
215 0.34% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.3.1
181 0.29% Pan/0.14.2 (This is not a psychotic episode. It's a cleansing moment of clarity.)
170 0.27% An out of work anchor
153 0.24% Pan/0.14.2 (This is not a psychotic episode. It's a cleansing moment of clarity.)
94 0.15% "Virtual Access"
89 0.14% "KNode"
65 0.10% "WinVN"
58 0.09% Noworyta News Reader/2.9
47 0.07% "News Xpress"
41 0.06% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1
38 0.06% NitroMethane (Agent, MorVer, KorrNews)
38 0.06% "Gnus"
37 0.06% Forte-Agent/1.93-32.576 Francais Hamster-Fr/2.0.2.1(Stable)
36 0.06% Internet Rex gateway (2.29)
34 0.05% XanaNews/1.15.3.1
32 0.05% MesNews/1.00.04.02 (windows)
29 0.05% Pan/0.14.0.93 (He's Upstairs, Helping Porcelain Make the Bed)
29 0.05% SNews 1.31+mods(jlw020504/dpmi)
29 0.05% www.cotse.net
28 0.04% Becky! ver. 2.06.02 with BkNews Plug-In ver. 2.0
27 0.04% Pan/0.13.3 (That cat's something I can't explain)
27 0.04% "News Rover"
23 0.04% Forte-Agent/1.93-32.576 Francais Hamster-Fr/2.0.2.0(Beta)
23 0.04% Pan/0.14.0.95 (Pan Contains 70 Lines of SCO Code)
22 0.03% XanaNews/1.15.6.1
20 0.03% Sylpheed version 0.8.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-mandrake-linux-gnu)
20 0.03% Eddie the shipboard computer
19 0.03% Pan/0.14.0.91 (Time to repress another memory.)
18 0.03% Pan/0.13.4 (She had eyes like strange sins.)
18 0.03% MesNews/1.00.04.02 (windows) - plugin-horloge
17 0.03% MyOE.NET testing version (http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/myoe)
17 0.03% MUCK!
17 0.03% MesNews/1.00.04.00 (windows)
17 0.03% XanaNews/1.14.3.7
16 0.03% Pan/0.11.4 (Unix)
15 0.02% MesNews/1.00.04.02 (windows) - plugin:code-barres
14 0.02% Pan/0.13.0 (The whole remains beautiful)
14 0.02% "TIN"
13 0.02% XanaNews/1.15.2.2
13 0.02% Pan/0.14.0 (I'm Being Nibbled to Death by Cats!)
12 0.02% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1de
12 0.02% 40tude Dialog/2.0.1.1
12 0.02% Opera/6.0 (Windows XP; U) [en]
12 0.02% Sylpheed version 0.8.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu)
12 0.02% XanaNews/1.15.2.7
11 0.02% Giganews Binary Newsreader 3.1.6
11 0.02% U <qB768xlzLjJeytW$1gvh$A$xWM>
10 0.02% Sharkkilla v1.0 Build 20030225
8 0.01% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.4 beta 9 - English version - www.geminisoft.com
8 0.01% Pan/0.13.93 (Don't you cry, it'll give you lines around your eyes)
8 0.01% "NN"
8 0.01% XanaNews/1.15.2.3
8 0.01% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.4 b3a1 - www.geminisoft.com
8 0.01% XanaNews/1.15.3.2
7 0.01% Forte-Agent/1.93-32.576 Francais Hamster-Fr/2.0.2.0(Stable)
7 0.01% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.4.1
7 0.01% Becky! ver. 2.05.10 with BkNews Plug-In ver. 2.0
6 0.01% XanaNews/1.15.2.6
6 0.01% XanaNews/1.14.2.1
6 0.01% XanaNews/1.14.3.8
6 0.01% MesNews/1.00.04.02 (windows) - plugin:calendrier
6 0.01% NewsPro/3.6.2
6 0.01% Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.3.0; Win32)
6 0.01% Sylpheed version 0.9.0claws11 (GTK+ 1.3.0; Win32)
6 0.01% XanaNews/1.14.1.2 Hamster/2.0.0.1
6 0.01% XAgent
5 0.01% Yarn 0.92 with YES 0.22
5 0.01% Forte-Agent/1.93-32.576 Francais Hamster-Fr/2.0.1.13
5 0.01% XanaNews/1.15.7.4
5 0.01% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.7.1
5 0.01% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.2.1
5 0.01% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.3.1 Hamster/2.0.0.0
4 0.01% Sylpheed version 0.8.11claws (GTK+ 1.3.0; Win32)
4 0.01% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.3.1 Hamster/2.0.0.1
4 0.01% Direct Read News 4.20
4 0.01% The Bat! (v2.00.6) Business,
4 0.01% NewsPro/3.3.3
4 0.01% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.5 alfa 12 - www.geminisoft.com
4 0.01% NewsRat-0.9.3(Unix)
4 0.01% The Bat! (v2.01) Business,
4 0.01% Pan/0.14.1 (This is not a psychotic episode. It's a cleansing moment of clarity.)
4 0.01% Opera7.11/Win32 M2 build 2887
4 0.01%
4 0.01% Kaufman Pravda 1.26
4 0.01% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.4 beta 8 - English version - www.geminisoft.com
4 0.01% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.4 b9 - www.geminisoft.com
4 0.01% K.Brockman, Localhost Network, Springfield.
4 0.01% XanaNews/1.15.1.2
4 0.01% Pan/0.14.2 (This is not a psychotic episode. It's a cleansing moment of clarity. (Debian GNU/Linux))
3 0.00% Becky! ver. 2.07.02 with BkNews Plug-In ver. 2.0
3 0.00% nn/6.6.5
3 0.00% Ghost Mail 5.1 http://ay.home.ml.org/
3 0.00% Kaufman Pravda 1,26
3 0.00% XanaNews/1.14.3.3
3 0.00% Kludge 0.89
3 0.00% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.3.1 - English version - www.geminisoft.com
3 0.00% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.4 b3a2 - www.geminisoft.com
3 0.00% Name & version of newsreader unidentified.
3 0.00% Microsoft (R) Exchange Internet News Service Version 5.5.2653.11
3 0.00% XanaNews/1.15.2.1
3 0.00% Ozum 2.87 newsreader, scanner & free autoposter - ozinsight.com
3 0.00% Opera7.21/Win32 M2 build 3218
3 0.00% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.5 alfa 3 - www.geminisoft.com
3 0.00% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.4.2 beta 10 - English version - www.geminisoft.com
3 0.00% Pan/0.14.0.90 (Face-down once more on the greasy boardwalk of love)
3 0.00% Pan/0.14.1 (This is not a psychotic episode. It's a cleansing moment of clarity.)
3 0.00% Pan/0.13.3.90 (Back in the Garnome)
3 0.00% Opera7.03/Win32 M2 build 2670
2 0.00% MesNews/1.00.04.02 (windows) - plugin:421
2 0.00% Opera/6.05 (Windows XP; U) [en]
2 0.00% Pan/0.13.2 (I wwwondeling why alla boppah ferra pushing in?)
2 0.00% Pan/0.13.0 (The eagle flies at midnight)
2 0.00% Session Scheduler (Queue Name: usenet_offline-m05)
2 0.00% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.7.1 (096e71e0.409.67)
2 0.00% "MacSOUP"
2 0.00% The Bat! (v1.63 Beta/7) Personal
2 0.00% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.7.1 (4ba80dc1.273.160)
2 0.00% MesNews/1.00.04.00 (windows) - plugin:code-barres
2 0.00% Foorum
2 0.00% NewsPro/3.7.0
2 0.00% Opera7.21/Win32 M2 build 3216
2 0.00% XanaNews/1.15.2.5
2 0.00% Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022
2 0.00% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.5.1 Hamster/2.0.0.1
2 0.00% Microsoft (R) Exchange Internet News Service Version 5.5.2650.12
2 0.00% Opera7.20/Win32 M2 build 3144
243 0.38% (others)

Header-statistics for: Newsreader (grouped, per user)
(based on msgs with bodies between 1/1/2003 and 10/31/2003)

alt.comp.freeware
4669 100.00% (probe count)
1991 42.64% "Microsoft Outlook"
826 17.69% (not set)
549 11.76% "Forte Agent"
418 8.95% "Xnews"
261 5.59% "Mozilla/NetScape"
178 3.81% "Gravity"
165 3.53% "Forte Free Agent"
25 0.54% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.5.1
24 0.51% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.3.1
17 0.36% "slrn"
16 0.34% "KNode"
12 0.26% "WinVN"
11 0.24% "Turnpike"
9 0.19% "News Xpress"
9 0.19% "News Rover"
8 0.17% "TIN"
8 0.17% Sharkkilla v1.0 Build 20030225
6 0.13% "Gnus"
6 0.13% Noworyta News Reader/2.9
4 0.09% "Virtual Access"
4 0.09% Pan/0.14.0 (I'm Being Nibbled to Death by Cats!)
3 0.06% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.4 beta 8 - English version - www.geminisoft.com
3 0.06% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1
3 0.06% MesNews/1.00.04.02 (windows)
3 0.06% Giganews Binary Newsreader 3.1.6
3 0.06% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.2.1
3 0.06% Pan/0.13.0 (The whole remains beautiful)
3 0.06% Pan/0.13.4 (She had eyes like strange sins.)
3 0.06% Opera7.03/Win32 M2 build 2670
2 0.04% Direct Read News 4.20
2 0.04% XanaNews/1.15.2.6
2 0.04% XanaNews/1.15.2.7
2 0.04% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.7.1
2 0.04% Kaufman Pravda 1.26
2 0.04% Ozum 2.87 newsreader, scanner & free autoposter - ozinsight.com
2 0.04% Geminisoft Pimmy 3.4 b9 - www.geminisoft.com
2 0.04% NitroMethane (Agent, MorVer, KorrNews)
2 0.04% 40tude_Dialog/2.0.3.1 Hamster/2.0.0.0
2 0.04% "MacSOUP"
78 1.67% (others)

 

[donutbandit]

1 256 Microsoft Outlook Express
2 224 Xnews

Interesting that a free, lightly publicized program like Xnews came close
to Outhouse Express, which ships with every Windows computer and which
probably 90% of users blindly use because it's there.

 

[Aaron]

Top Newsreaders

Ranking Articles Newsreader
------- -------- ----------------------------
1 256 Microsoft Outlook Express
2 224 Xnews
3 173 Forte Agent
4 83 Mozilla

Hmm....Mozilla...We talking about Thunderbird and/or the mail portion of
the Mozilla suite? Seems to be rising in popularity



Aaron (my email is not munged!)

 

[Paul Blarmy]

On 1 Nov 2003 08:06:17 GMT, donutbandit wrote...

Interesting that a free, lightly publicized program like Xnews came close
to Outhouse Express, which ships with every Windows computer and which
probably 90% of users blindly use because it's there.

Not surprising at all really. I would suggest that a majority of internet
users worldwide (OE users by definition) do not use usenet at all. Those
that do use usenet are sufficiently well informed to know about
alternative clients and are therefore more likely to use alternatives
than those who do not use usenet.

 

[Vic Dura]

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Top Newsreaders

This is interesting data. What software are you using to gather it?

 

[George]

Interesting that a free, lightly publicized program like Xnews came close
to Outhouse Express, which ships with every Windows computer and which
probably 90% of users blindly use because it's there.

When I worked for an ISP the % of customers who used newsgroups was tiny. I
think it would be fair to say that most didn't know they existed or weren't
interested in what they had to offer. Those that did tended to be more
experienced internet users who probably found OE limiting for what they
wanted and as such would move to something like Xnews or Agent etc.

 

[dszady]

This is interesting data. What software are you using to gather it?

XanaNews newsreader.

I D/L all available posts (28400±) for this group from adelphia last
night after I had posted those "stats". (From June 22, 2003) I noticed
a few discrepancies. Particularly the fact that the last newsreader I
used was OE. So the software isn't perfect.
The purpose was to see how many of the long threads were for actual
freeware. I didn't do an analysis but at a glance the results were
abysmal.
Even worse: the majority - over 50% - of the posts without a reply were
requests for actual freeware, if you discount the one-time posts for
announcing new stuff and trolling.

Even worse than that: It meant we weren't doing for the "onetimers"
(people probably without a clue as to where to turn except to come
here) the help they had asked for.

No political commentary here. Just a couple of obs.