news reader

[cajun_mike]

My new ISP doesn't 'do' newsgroups and so I'm having to deal with trying to
follow topics on a LONG list of ...public.xp.general and so on topics. Is
there a newsgroup reader that is suggested that could help with this that
would be recommended. No charge would be appreciated.

Thanks much,

Mike

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader for MShttp://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

 

[cajun_mike]

Works like a champ, Bruce. Thanks very much!!

Mike

 

[Bruce Hagen]

You're welcome. But you used the Web interface for your OP /and/ this reply.
<wink>

X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000

 

[cajun_mike]

I'm having phantoms in my OP, Bruce. Sometimes hyperlinks work from OE6 and
other times they don't. I don't remember posting to an OE6 board and yet you
said I did! I've been flailing around these flat files for 3 days and do NOT
know how you and the rest of your team do it and maintain sanity!

I'm going to the msnewsgroup reader (I think that's what it's called) and
use it exclusively! Man, again I thank you for your life-saving assistance.

Mike

 

[Kayman]

My new ISP doesn't 'do' newsgroups and so I'm having to deal with trying to
follow topics on a LONG list of ...public.xp.general and so on topics. Is
there a newsgroup reader that is suggested that could help with this that
would be recommended. No charge would be appreciated.

Free UseNet providers:
AIOE http://news.aioe.org/ (error prone)
Albasani http://albasani.net/index.html.en (good)
CNNTP http://www.cnntp.org/cnntp
ETT http://news.ett.com.ua/
Motzarella http://motzarella.org/ (good)
Solani http://news.solani.org/
Teranews http://www.teranews.com/
Tornevall http://news.tornevall.net/
Usenet4all http://www.usenet4all.se/ (blocks all posts from Google)

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

More for you:

1. OE Tools | Options | Read | Get XXX headers at a time

The default is 300. You may set this option as high as 1,000. Right-click
on the newsgroup in Folders pane | Synchronization Settings | select New
Messages Only. Now every time you open the newsgroup (or hit F5), you will
download the next-newest set of headers/messages..

When you feel you've downloaded enough headers/messages, again right-click
on the newsgroup in Folders pane and select Catch Up Now. This will Mark as
Read all messages on the server, including ones you've not yet downloaded.
Now return to "Get XXX headers at a time" and uncheck the option completely;
then compact the folder.

From now on, OE will only download headers/messages posted to the server
since you last checked (polled) for messages.

You should probably visit this page, too:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#cleannews (lotsa good stuff
there).

2. Click on the following links to open the newsgroup in OE:

OE General (preferable):
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
[[OE6:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress ]
]

IE General:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

WinXP General:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

 

[Tim Slattery]

My new ISP doesn't 'do' newsgroups and so I'm having to deal with trying to
follow topics on a LONG list of ...public.xp.general and so on topics. Is
there a newsgroup reader that is suggested that could help with this that
would be recommended. No charge would be appreciated.

There are several newsreaders. Outlook Express comes with your Windows
operating system, Mozilla Thunderbird (www.mozilla.org/thunderbird)
is free, Forte Agent (www.forteinc.com/agent) is cheap and many of us
swear by it.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

You have posts in the OE6 newsgroup and the OE General newsgroup.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

There are several newsreaders. Outlook Express comes with your Windows
operating system, Mozilla Thunderbird (www.mozilla.org/thunderbird)
is free, Forte Agent (www.forteinc.com/agent) is cheap and many of us
swear by it.

Although I'm one of those who swear by Forte Agent, and like it
considerably better than any of those alternatives, my normal
recommendation is that most people should get started by using Outlook
Express because they already have it and it's easiest to start using.

Moreover, trying a better choice like Agent will give them a much
better basis of comparison once they've been using Outlook Express as
a newsreader for a while.

 

[~BD~]

Interesting to see Robear bringing part of his own fan club over here!

Hello Curt. Happy New Year!

Dave

Great post Bear,

*Very* informative, and it's a keeper for me.

--
Curt

http://dundats.mvps.org/
http://www.aumha.org/
http://dundats.mvps.org/AutoIt/default.aspx

| More for you:
|
| 1. OE Tools | Options | Read | Get XXX headers at a time
|
| The default is 300. You may set this option as high as 1,000.
Right-click
| on the newsgroup in Folders pane | Synchronization Settings | select
New
| Messages Only. Now every time you open the newsgroup (or hit F5),
you
will
| download the next-newest set of headers/messages..
|
| When you feel you've downloaded enough headers/messages, again
right-click
| on the newsgroup in Folders pane and select Catch Up Now. This will
Mark
as
| Read all messages on the server, including ones you've not yet
downloaded.
| Now return to "Get XXX headers at a time" and uncheck the option
completely;
| then compact the folder.
|
| From now on, OE will only download headers/messages posted to the
server
| since you last checked (polled) for messages.
|
| You should probably visit this page, too:
| http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#cleannews (lotsa good
stuff
| there).
|
| 2. Click on the following links to open the newsgroup in OE:
|
| OE General (preferable):
| news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
| [[OE6:
|
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress ]
| ]
|
| IE General:
|
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
|
| WinXP General:
| news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
|
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
|
| cajun_mike wrote:
| > Works like a champ, Bruce. Thanks very much!!
| >
| > Mike
| >
| > "Bruce Hagen" wrote:
| >
| >> Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader for MS| >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
| >> --
| >>
| >> Bruce Hagen
| >> MS-MVP Outlook Express
| >> Imperial Beach, CA
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> My new ISP doesn't 'do' newsgroups and so I'm having to deal
with
trying
| >>> to
| >>> follow topics on a LONG list of ...public.xp.general and so on
topics.
| >>> Is
| >>> there a newsgroup reader that is suggested that could help with
this
| >>> that
| >>> would be recommended. No charge would be appreciated.
| >>>
| >>> Thanks much,
| >>>
| >>> Mike
|

 

[Gardier]

Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader for MShttp://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

In all honesty I think Xnews is a far better news reader.

 

[Gardier]

my normal recommendation is that most people should get started by
using Outlook Express because they already have it and it's easiest to
start using.

I actually find OE and Thunderbird quite hard to use efficiently. I
really think dedicated newsreaders like Xnews and Agent make the job a
lot easier.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I actually find OE and Thunderbird quite hard to use efficiently. I
really think dedicated newsreaders like Xnews and Agent make the job a
lot easier.

I have next to no experience with Thunderbird, but I've used Outlook
Express a lot. And although I prefer Agent (I don't like XNews) to
Outlook Express, I still think that it's wisest to start with Outlook
Express so you have a basis of comparison.

As much as I like Agent, before using such a third-party program, you
should know the newsreader that comes with Windows. It's very hard to
like Agent better if you've never used the alternative. Moreover,
despite you and I preferring Agent to Outlook Express, not everybody
does, and people should have the choice to stay with Outlook Express
if they like it better.

 

[BillW50]

In Ken Blake, MVP typed on Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:34:03 -0700:

I have next to no experience with Thunderbird, but I've used Outlook
Express a lot. And although I prefer Agent (I don't like XNews) to
Outlook Express, I still think that it's wisest to start with Outlook
Express so you have a basis of comparison.

As much as I like Agent, before using such a third-party program, you
should know the newsreader that comes with Windows. It's very hard to
like Agent better if you've never used the alternative. Moreover,
despite you and I preferring Agent to Outlook Express, not everybody
does, and people should have the choice to stay with Outlook Express
if they like it better.

I use Thunderbird and Firefox under Linux and I hate them (Maxthon v1.xx and
Outlook Express v6.xx isn't available under Linux). I also tried Thunderbird
and Firefox under Windows XP too. I used Agent for about 6 months a few
years ago. I also tried everything I could get my hands on. And I keep
coming back to Outlook Express v6. The one thing I really like about OE is
the CTRL-H option. Which allows me to find my replies to my posts very
quickly. Why can't others do this as well?

--
Bill
2 Gateway MX6124 - Windows XP SP2
3 Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
2 Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 1GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2 ~ Xandros Linux - Puppy - Ubuntu

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

In Ken Blake, MVP typed on Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:34:03 -0700:

I use Thunderbird and Firefox under Linux and I hate them (Maxthon v1.xx and
Outlook Express v6.xx isn't available under Linux). I also tried Thunderbird
and Firefox under Windows XP too. I used Agent for about 6 months a few
years ago. I also tried everything I could get my hands on. And I keep
coming back to Outlook Express v6. The one thing I really like about OE is
the CTRL-H option. Which allows me to find my replies to my posts very
quickly. Why can't others do this as well?

In my experience, whenever you look at almost any two competing
software products (not just newsreaders) you can find something in
each of them that you like better than the way it works in the other.
The product to choose is the one with the better features that are
most important to you.

As a single example of what I mean, if the ability to easily use
binary newsgroups is important to you, Outlook Express will likely
turn out to be one of the worst newsreaders for you. But if you don't
do binary newsgroups, Outlook Express may be terrific for you.

We all have different needs, different likes and dislikes, and
therefore different tastes.

 

[BillW50]

In Ken Blake, MVP typed on Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:12:15 -0700:

In my experience, whenever you look at almost any two competing
software products (not just newsreaders) you can find something in
each of them that you like better than the way it works in the other.
The product to choose is the one with the better features that are
most important to you.

As a single example of what I mean, if the ability to easily use
binary newsgroups is important to you, Outlook Express will likely
turn out to be one of the worst newsreaders for you. But if you don't
do binary newsgroups, Outlook Express may be terrific for you.

We all have different needs, different likes and dislikes, and
therefore different tastes.

Yes I was into binaries for a month or two and OE was just awful! Mainly
because some use other compression methods that OE couldn't handle. But why
does every other newsgroup reader fail to add the CTRL-H ability? It is like
they secretly want people to keep using OE.

--
Bill
2 Gateway MX6124 - Windows XP SP2
3 Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
2 Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 1GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2 ~ Xandros Linux - Puppy - Ubuntu

 

[Gardier]

The one thing I really like about OE is the CTRL-H option.
Which allows me to find my replies to my posts very quickly.
Why can't others do this as well?

Xnews and Gravity automatically highlight replies. They do this by
watching the references in the header.

 

[BillW50]

In Gardier typed on Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:34:14 -0800:

Xnews and Gravity automatically highlight replies. They do this by
watching the references in the header.

Okay thanks! I'll check them out.

--
Bill
2 Gateway MX6124 - Windows XP SP2
3 Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
2 Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 1GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2 ~ Xandros Linux - Puppy - Ubuntu

 

[Gardier]

As a single example of what I mean, if the ability to easily use binary
newsgroups is important to you, Outlook Express will likely turn out to
be one of the worst newsreaders for you. But if you don't do binary
newsgroups, Outlook Express may be terrific for you.

Yeah traditional newsreaders do binaries very badly. I rarely use binary
groups, but if I did I would use Grabit or Newsbin.