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[Wislu Plethora]

I said I use it, I like it, and I think it's a top of the line av program.
That's all I said. I never said it was better than nortons and called
nortons they're notorious nickname, bloatware. Everyone calls it that. Get a
grip dude. You're trying to read something that I never said. I said I think
it a great program, that's it. Geez........


Here we go again. What is wrong with you liberals. When did I ever say that
I don't care about computer security. NEVER. Let me repeat that again.
NEVER. I gave my opinion. To f@#king bad if you don't agree, that doesn't
make you right, it's just says we have a difference of opinion. And NO ONE,
and I mean NO ONE, in this group will ever say that recommending avg is bad
advice or irresponsible and that anyone that does doesn't know what they're
talking about. That's just ignorance and jealousy talking. It's not
irresponsible to say I like avg, give it a try.


Typical lib - my view is no where near your dog in a computer idiotic
statement.


Again typical lib. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them
wrong. It means we don't agree. A smart person knows this and uses other
points of view as info to shape and validate his point of view. There's no
need to tell or even think someone else is wrong because they disagree with
you. Once you grow more you'll accept this fact. I pray for you and your
kind.

Gee, I guess I just learned something. I have always been under the
impression that personal responsibility for one's actions and pronouncements
was a hallmark of the conservative way of thinking. According to you,
though, it's OK to make
irresponsible statements and then back away from them by claiming free
speech. Btw, as I was writing this the news came through that Kerry has
called Dubya and conceded the election. I now pledge to support the
President in exactly the same way that conservatives supported Bill Clinton.

 

[Phil]

I wouldn't call the AVG FREE version "Top of the line." But, I've
been using it for almost two years, and find that it performs well,
isn't bloated, is fast, and is current with updates. No AV program
can protect a system 100%. The user has to practice SAFE PC
habits:

1. Don't open unsolicited email attachments even if the sender is
someone you know. Infected systems can automatically replicate the
worm and send to the addresses in the address book from the email
address of the infected system.
2. Always have a decent firewall running, and know how to use it.
3. Don't accept web site software installs, or Active X control
installs unless it's a VERY reputable site.
4. Turn off your preview pane off if you're using Outlook Express,
in case someone has sent a malicious script in an html email.
5. File sharing services are hotbeds for viruses/worms. Avoid
them.
6. If you use Microsoft Word, set your Macro Security to Medium,
which will bring up a dialog box asking if you want the macro to
run, if you open a Word Document that has a macro. Unless you are
sure that the macro is safe, don't allow it to run.
6. Get an email monitoring utility like Magic Mail Monitor, which
downloads email headers at user specified intervals, and allows you
to right click headers and left click: Delete. So you can delete
spam or questionable email from the server before it's downloaded
to your system. Or, you can double click a header, and the email
will open in Notepad as text, which can't infect your system, and
you'll be able to see if there's anything that should not be there
like a pif, scr, vbs files etc. in text, and allow you to delete
the message from the server. I don't download any email in Outlook
Express which I haven't first checked out with Magic Mail Monitor
(FREE), and which I highly recommend. It polls my mail server
every 10 minutes (can be configured for more or less time) and a
window pops up with headers for new email. If an email needs a
quick reply, you can click on Quick Reply and an Outlook Express
(or your default email) compose window will open, already
addressed to the sender. It also does multiple email accounts.
You can download Magic Mail Monitor at:

http://mmm3.sourceforge.net/
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T.C.
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Your advice is good in general. Still, I don't know what you mean
when you say that AVG "performs well." It has not performed well in
comparative testing, in general, although recent results have shown
some improvement. As I pointed out in an earlier post, the fact that
one has had no virus infections while using any given program is not
in itself a reliable indicator of efficacy.

Not sure what world you live in, but that's really the only
practical way to measure how good a product is. People buy
something, it works great for them, they buy it again and tell there
friends to buy it. Most do not look at test after test to decide
which soap is the best for them or which cleaner is the best. They
look at price, commercials, and marketing, choose a product, if it
works thery keep it, if it doesn't they toss it.
In independent studies I seen Volvo cars were #1 in safety, yet
there are hundreds of other models available. How can this be? Why
don't we all have Volvos. The test say they're the best, so there
shouldn't even be any other cars and we certainly shouldn't ever say
another car is better because the independant tests say the Volvo is
the best. It outperforms all cars in safety yet they have one of the
smallest market shares. Could it be because practical people, in
general, don't care about independant tests, they care about real
world experience. You're view is a typical liberal view, using polls
and comparisons to try to force what you think is your opinion on
others, never caring how that product works in the real world.
Little do you know what you think is your opinion is just what the
left wing media has drilled into your head and you just regurgitate
their views. Try thinking for yourself for once and use YOUR
experience to guide your way. Don't fall into the liberal trap that
if someone doesn't agree with you they are wrong, because that's
just not a realistic view. Everyone has or should have their own
opinions. Mine is that I like avg better.

I'm glad that you're happy with AVG, and I wouldn't think of trying to
convince you or anyone else to use something else. All I was saying
was that it's a good idea to have a *basis* for an opinion. It's
certainly not a requirement--you're free to stumble through life
without thinking about what you're doing if you want to. I'll
reiterate, though, that it's irresponsible to offer an opinion on an
important subject unless you add a disclaimer to the effect that you
have no idea what you're talking about. I get the feeling, though,
that anyone having a conversation with you for more than about thirty
seconds will know that anyway.

I have my basis for my opinion. It's real world experience. What part of
this do you not understand. I'd type slower if I thought it would help. If
you base all your opinions on stats and tests then I pitty you. Many "test"
are only done with a few thousand user and almost never reflect what a
broader base test would show. Tests are nice, but how it works in the real
world is proof positive. You're the one stumbling though life as you can't
seem to think for yourself, you let tests and stas think for you. Live life
for once and think for yourself.
And I love this liberal crap......... you assume I know nothing about
anti-virus programs because you don't agree with me. And just to remind you
I never said anything bad about nortons, never said avg was better, just
said I liked avg. You were the one to say why I liked it, I never said
because I haven't been infected, you said that. Again reading what you think
you want to hear, not what is typed. I said I liked it and that's it. You,
who have no life, then choose to blow it out of proportion. IT IS NOT
IRRESPONSIBLE TO SAY I LIKE AVG, JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE. This group is
just that........a bunch of opinions, either get over it, or get out.
And I love how the unintelligent always have to resort to name calling or
trying to put someone down. Most adults have learned better. A sad life you
must have.
Now I'll say have a good day as I'm done speaking with someone who has such
a narrow view.

 

[Wislu Plethora]

I have my basis for my opinion. It's real world experience. What part of
this do you not understand. I'd type slower if I thought it would help. If
you base all your opinions on stats and tests then I pitty you. Many "test"
are only done with a few thousand user and almost never reflect what a
broader base test would show. Tests are nice, but how it works in the real
world is proof positive. You're the one stumbling though life as you can't
seem to think for yourself, you let tests and stas think for you. Live life
for once and think for yourself.

Apparently it's beyond your intellectual capacity to evaluate a test report,
which requires knowing something about experimentation and statistics. I do
my own thinking, but I guess the idea of having reliable information before
forming an opinion is just beyond your grasp.

And I love this liberal crap......... you assume I know nothing about
anti-virus programs because you don't agree with me.

I don't need to say that you know nothing about antivirus programs. You've
done a good enough job of that all by yourself.

And just to remind you I never said anything bad about nortons, never said
avg was better,

YOUR words: "Can nortons bloatware and move to a free top of the line
anti-virus program like AVG." You apparently can't even remember what you
wrote half an hour ago.

just said I liked avg. You were the one to say why I liked it, I never said
because I haven't been infected, you said that. Again reading what you think
you want to hear, not what is typed. I said I liked it and that's it. You,
who have no life, then choose to blow it out of proportion. IT IS NOT
IRRESPONSIBLE TO SAY I LIKE AVG, JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T >AGREE.

I said that there is OBJECTIVE evidence that AVG does not perform as well as
NAV. You choose, for whatever reasons, to reject that evidence apparently
without even looking at it, otherwise you wouldn't have asked for links to
test reports. Thus you have characterized NAV as "bloatware" and AVG as "top
of the line" without having any objective evidence to support your advice,
or at least none that you're willing to present. That's irresponsible.

This group is just that........a bunch of opinions, either get over it, or

get out.

But when someone asks for help or advice and you respond without having any
idea what you're talking about, and without disclaiming any useful
knowledge, it goes beyond the realm of just expressing an opinion.

 

[Al Smith]

I wouldn't call the AVG FREE version "Top of the line." But, I've been using it for

almost two years, and find that it performs well, isn't bloated, is fast, and is current
with updates.

I would call AVG top of the line, in the sense that it's the only
antivirus product I can run without annoyances. I've had the
chance to install others that are not free, but I've passed on
them in favor of AVG.