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[hawkeye uk]

im sorry if i offend anyone here but im going to ask just incase someone is
sympathetic to my needs

my subscription to norton antivirus and internet security runds out in a
months time.

i was hoping anyone could point me in the direction of a download site to
obtain it for free

i understand if i get no help but it would be greatly appreciated

thanks

xbox live gamertag - hawkeye uk

 

[Phil]

Can nortons bloatware and move to a free top of the line anti-virus program
like AVG.
www.grisoft.com
(get the free version - works great)

 

[Guest]

you need to find yourself a copy of symantec anti-virus corporate edition.
no subscription required. same with internet securty.....find a corporate
edition. unfortunatly, i cant release the information as to where you can
obtain these for free.....but now you know what to look for. hope this helped

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

If you want Norton, you need to pay.
There are many free options, some on this link:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/virch.htm

If you install something else, be sure to thoroughly uninstall Norton
before installing another.

 

[Wislu Plethora]

Can nortons bloatware and move to a free top of the line anti-virus program
like AVG.
www.grisoft.com
(get the free version - works great)

"nortons bloatware" consistently outperforms AVG in independent tests, but
leave it to a Bushie...

 

[t.cruise]

The FREE version of AVG has always worked for myself and my clients.

http://www.grisoft.com
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[Phil]

"nortons bloatware" consistently outperforms AVG in independent
tests, but leave it to a Bushie...

Interesting. Do you have any links to this data?

 

[Wislu Plethora]

Interesting. Do you have any links to this data?

Do you have a broken finger? Can you use Google? *You're* the one who's
representing AVG as "top of the line." This, I suppose, is based on the
fact
that it runs smoothly and you've never had a virus infection. Well, I have a
big
ugly dog, and I've never had a virus infection either. It would appear that
my dog is just as effective as your AVG. My remark about your touting Dubya
was made advisedly; there seems to be a general failure on the part of Bush
supporters to be able to logically link causes and effects.

 

[Guest]

Interesting. Do you have any links to this data?

According to this link AVG performs pretty badly,take it for what it is?
http://www.virusbulletin.com/vb100_award/archives/products.xml?

 

[Harry Ohrn]

Your request in saying you want to "obtain it for free" followed by the
smilie implies that you are asking for a pirated version of the software.
Instead of asking for pirated software why not ask for low cost or free
alternatives. There are several options
http://www.firewallguide.com/freeware.htm

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www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


| im sorry if i offend anyone here but im going to ask just incase someone
is
| sympathetic to my needs
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| my subscription to norton antivirus and internet security runds out in a
| months time.
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| i was hoping anyone could point me in the direction of a download site to
| obtain it for free
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| i understand if i get no help but it would be greatly appreciated
|
| thanks
|
| xbox live gamertag - hawkeye uk
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|

 

[CS]

im sorry if i offend anyone here but im going to ask just incase someone is
sympathetic to my needs

my subscription to norton antivirus and internet security runds out in a
months time.

i was hoping anyone could point me in the direction of a download site to
obtain it for free

i understand if i get no help but it would be greatly appreciated

thanks

xbox live gamertag - hawkeye uk

www.grisoft.com

www.avast.com

http://www.free-av.com/

All free, your choice.

 

[t.cruise]

I wouldn't call the AVG FREE version "Top of the line." But, I've been using it for
almost two years, and find that it performs well, isn't bloated, is fast, and is current
with updates. No AV program can protect a system 100%. The user has to practice SAFE PC
habits:

1. Don't open unsolicited email attachments even if the sender is someone you know.
Infected systems can automatically replicate the worm and send to the addresses in the
address book from the email address of the infected system.
2. Always have a decent firewall running, and know how to use it.
3. Don't accept web site software installs, or Active X control installs unless it's a
VERY reputable site.
4. Turn off your preview pane off if you're using Outlook Express, in case someone has
sent a malicious script in an html email.
5. File sharing services are hotbeds for viruses/worms. Avoid them.
6. If you use Microsoft Word, set your Macro Security to Medium, which will bring up a
dialog box asking if you want the macro to run, if you open a Word Document that has a
macro. Unless you are sure that the macro is safe, don't allow it to run.
6. Get an email monitoring utility like Magic Mail Monitor, which downloads email headers
at user specified intervals, and allows you to right click headers and left click: Delete.
So you can delete spam or questionable email from the server before it's downloaded to
your system. Or, you can double click a header, and the email will open in Notepad as
text, which can't infect your system, and you'll be able to see if there's anything that
should not be there like a pif, scr, vbs files etc. in text, and allow you to delete the
message from the server. I don't download any email in Outlook Express which I haven't
first checked out with Magic Mail Monitor (FREE), and which I highly recommend. It polls
my mail server every 10 minutes (can be configured for more or less time) and a window
pops up with headers for new email. If an email needs a quick reply, you can click on
Quick Reply and an Outlook Express (or your default email) compose window will open,
already addressed to the sender. It also does multiple email accounts. You can download
Magic Mail Monitor at:

http://mmm3.sourceforge.net/
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[Bruce Chambers]

im sorry if i offend anyone here but im going to ask just incase
someone is sympathetic to my needs

my subscription to norton antivirus and internet security runds out
in a months time.

i was hoping anyone could point me in the direction of a download
site to obtain it for free

i understand if i get no help but it would be greatly appreciated

thanks

xbox live gamertag - hawkeye uk

You'll get nearly as many differing opinions as you will
responses.

I used, and recommended, Norton Antivirus and then Norton Internet
Security, for many years, on Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and WinXP, all
without any significant problems. I had used McAfee prior to that.
But it's been several years since I've been tempted to try McAfee
products. Their quality seemed to take a steep nose-dive after they
were acquired by Network Associates.

However, when my subscription to Symantec's updates for Norton
Internet Security 2002 came up for renewal (at a cost substantially
higher than the preceding year's subscription), I decided to try less
expensive solutions. I downloaded and installed the free version of
GriSoft's AVG (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php ) and the
free version of Sygate's Personal Firewall
(http://smb.sygate.com/free/default.php ). Both have proven to be
easily installed, easy to use, and quite effective. Additionally, I
was pleasantly surprised to see a small but very noticeable
improvement in my PC's performance, once I'd replaced the Symantec
product.

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having
both at once. - RAH

 

[Alex Nichol]

my subscription to norton antivirus and internet security runds out in a
months time.

i was hoping anyone could point me in the direction of a download site to
obtain it for free

i understand if i get no help but it would be greatly appreciated

You can't get Norton for free. But I would junk it anyway - it can give
rise to troubles and there are good free tools available.

www.my-etrust.com\microsoft
has a current free year's trial of a very good package

www.grisoft.com
AVG - but the version 6, the current free one, is ceasing to be
supported at the end of the month; a new free version 7 will then be
available, but not as of today. So wait to the last days of the month
for that one

 

[Phil]

Do you have a broken finger? Can you use Google?

I could care less about nortons or symantec, I don't like there products so
I don't need to waste time looking about stats about them. I really don't
care. Just figured if you'd had a quick link I'd spend 30 seconds of my time
to look at it. I can't be bothered with searching google as such for stats
on nortons.

*You're* the one
who's representing AVG as "top of the line." This, I suppose, is
based on the fact
that it runs smoothly and you've never had a virus infection.

Yup, just like everyone and every company does. If you like a product, team,
person, car, food, place, etc, people always want to tell you it's the
greatest out there and you gotta try it. Or my team is the best out there,
or coke is better than pepsi, or my car is faster than yours........it's
called competitivness, it's called free speech, and it's human nature.

Well, I
have a big
ugly dog, and I've never had a virus infection either. It would
appear that my dog is just as effective as your AVG.

Gee Wally, it sure looks that way. An amazing display of intelligence and
rationalization.

My remark about
your touting Dubya was made advisedly; there seems to be a general
failure on the part of Bush supporters to be able to logically link
causes and effects.

You're just mad because your way of thinking is the minority and you lost.

 

[Wislu Plethora]

I wouldn't call the AVG FREE version "Top of the line." But, I've been using it for
almost two years, and find that it performs well, isn't bloated, is fast, and is current
with updates. No AV program can protect a system 100%. The user has to practice SAFE PC
habits:

1. Don't open unsolicited email attachments even if the sender is someone you know.
Infected systems can automatically replicate the worm and send to the addresses in the
address book from the email address of the infected system.
2. Always have a decent firewall running, and know how to use it.
3. Don't accept web site software installs, or Active X control installs unless it's a
VERY reputable site.
4. Turn off your preview pane off if you're using Outlook Express, in case someone has
sent a malicious script in an html email.
5. File sharing services are hotbeds for viruses/worms. Avoid them.
6. If you use Microsoft Word, set your Macro Security to Medium, which will bring up a
dialog box asking if you want the macro to run, if you open a Word Document that has a
macro. Unless you are sure that the macro is safe, don't allow it to run.
6. Get an email monitoring utility like Magic Mail Monitor, which downloads email headers
at user specified intervals, and allows you to right click headers and left click: Delete.
So you can delete spam or questionable email from the server before it's downloaded to
your system. Or, you can double click a header, and the email will open in Notepad as
text, which can't infect your system, and you'll be able to see if there's anything that
should not be there like a pif, scr, vbs files etc. in text, and allow you to delete the
message from the server. I don't download any email in Outlook Express which I haven't
first checked out with Magic Mail Monitor (FREE), and which I highly recommend. It polls
my mail server every 10 minutes (can be configured for more or less time) and a window
pops up with headers for new email. If an email needs a quick reply, you can click on
Quick Reply and an Outlook Express (or your default email) compose window will open,
already addressed to the sender. It also does multiple email accounts. You can download
Magic Mail Monitor at:

http://mmm3.sourceforge.net/
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Your advice is good in general. Still, I don't know what you mean when you
say that AVG "performs well." It has not performed well in comparative
testing, in general, although recent results have shown some improvement.
As I pointed out in an earlier post, the fact that one has had no virus
infections while using any given program is not in itself a reliable
indicator of efficacy. At any rate, you're correct--the practices and habits
of users will generally dictate the level of safety they enjoy.

 

[Wislu Plethora]

In line...

I could care less about nortons or symantec, I don't like there products so
I don't need to waste time looking about stats about them. I really don't
care. Just figured if you'd had a quick link I'd spend 30 seconds of my time
to look at it. I can't be bothered with searching google as such for stats
on nortons.

Do you mean you *couldn't* care less? Why are you touting AVG if you have no
idea what you're talking about, and have no interest in finding out? What
you're saying is, "I'm an idiot and I use AVG, so you should too."

Yup, just like everyone and every company does. If you like a product, team,
person, car, food, place, etc, people always want to tell you it's the
greatest out there and you gotta try it. Or my team is the best out there,
or coke is better than pepsi, or my car is faster than yours........it's
called competitivness, it's called free speech, and it's human nature.

No, it's *irresponsible* to give advice on a subject as important as
computer security if you don't know what you're talking about, and don't
care.

Gee Wally, it sure looks that way. An amazing display of intelligence and
rationalization.

Wally my a$$. It's *your* logic, you moron.

You're just mad because your way of thinking is the minority and you lost.

It doesn't make any difference that my way of thinking is the minority if
I'm right.

 

[Phil]

I wouldn't call the AVG FREE version "Top of the line." But, I've
been using it for almost two years, and find that it performs well,
isn't bloated, is fast, and is current with updates. No AV program
can protect a system 100%. The user has to practice SAFE PC habits:

1. Don't open unsolicited email attachments even if the sender is
someone you know. Infected systems can automatically replicate the
worm and send to the addresses in the address book from the email
address of the infected system.
2. Always have a decent firewall running, and know how to use it.
3. Don't accept web site software installs, or Active X control
installs unless it's a VERY reputable site.
4. Turn off your preview pane off if you're using Outlook Express,
in case someone has sent a malicious script in an html email.
5. File sharing services are hotbeds for viruses/worms. Avoid them.
6. If you use Microsoft Word, set your Macro Security to Medium,
which will bring up a dialog box asking if you want the macro to
run, if you open a Word Document that has a macro. Unless you are
sure that the macro is safe, don't allow it to run.
6. Get an email monitoring utility like Magic Mail Monitor, which
downloads email headers at user specified intervals, and allows you
to right click headers and left click: Delete. So you can delete
spam or questionable email from the server before it's downloaded to
your system. Or, you can double click a header, and the email will
open in Notepad as text, which can't infect your system, and you'll
be able to see if there's anything that should not be there like a
pif, scr, vbs files etc. in text, and allow you to delete the
message from the server. I don't download any email in Outlook
Express which I haven't first checked out with Magic Mail Monitor
(FREE), and which I highly recommend. It polls my mail server every
10 minutes (can be configured for more or less time) and a window
pops up with headers for new email. If an email needs a quick
reply, you can click on Quick Reply and an Outlook Express (or your
default email) compose window will open, already addressed to the
sender. It also does multiple email accounts. You can download
Magic Mail Monitor at:

http://mmm3.sourceforge.net/
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Your advice is good in general. Still, I don't know what you mean
when you say that AVG "performs well." It has not performed well in
comparative testing, in general, although recent results have shown
some improvement. As I pointed out in an earlier post, the fact that
one has had no virus infections while using any given program is not
in itself a reliable indicator of efficacy.

Not sure what world you live in, but that's really the only practical way to
measure how good a product is. People buy something, it works great for
them, they buy it again and tell there friends to buy it. Most do not look
at test after test to decide which soap is the best for them or which
cleaner is the best. They look at price, commercials, and marketing, choose
a product, if it works thery keep it, if it doesn't they toss it.
In independent studies I seen Volvo cars were #1 in safety, yet there are
hundreds of other models available. How can this be? Why don't we all have
Volvos. The test say they're the best, so there shouldn't even be any other
cars and we certainly shouldn't ever say another car is better because the
independant tests say the Volvo is the best. It outperforms all cars in
safety yet they have one of the smallest market shares. Could it be because
practical people, in general, don't care about independant tests, they care
about real world experience. You're view is a typical liberal view, using
polls and comparisons to try to force what you think is your opinion on
others, never caring how that product works in the real world. Little do you
know what you think is your opinion is just what the left wing media has
drilled into your head and you just regurgitate their views. Try thinking
for yourself for once and use YOUR experience to guide your way. Don't fall
into the liberal trap that if someone doesn't agree with you they are wrong,
because that's just not a realistic view. Everyone has or should have their
own opinions. Mine is that I like avg better.

 

[Wislu Plethora]

I wouldn't call the AVG FREE version "Top of the line." But, I've
been using it for almost two years, and find that it performs well,
isn't bloated, is fast, and is current with updates. No AV program
can protect a system 100%. The user has to practice SAFE PC habits:

1. Don't open unsolicited email attachments even if the sender is
someone you know. Infected systems can automatically replicate the
worm and send to the addresses in the address book from the email
address of the infected system.
2. Always have a decent firewall running, and know how to use it.
3. Don't accept web site software installs, or Active X control
installs unless it's a VERY reputable site.
4. Turn off your preview pane off if you're using Outlook Express,
in case someone has sent a malicious script in an html email.
5. File sharing services are hotbeds for viruses/worms. Avoid them.
6. If you use Microsoft Word, set your Macro Security to Medium,
which will bring up a dialog box asking if you want the macro to
run, if you open a Word Document that has a macro. Unless you are
sure that the macro is safe, don't allow it to run.
6. Get an email monitoring utility like Magic Mail Monitor, which
downloads email headers at user specified intervals, and allows you
to right click headers and left click: Delete. So you can delete
spam or questionable email from the server before it's downloaded to
your system. Or, you can double click a header, and the email will
open in Notepad as text, which can't infect your system, and you'll
be able to see if there's anything that should not be there like a
pif, scr, vbs files etc. in text, and allow you to delete the
message from the server. I don't download any email in Outlook
Express which I haven't first checked out with Magic Mail Monitor
(FREE), and which I highly recommend. It polls my mail server every
10 minutes (can be configured for more or less time) and a window
pops up with headers for new email. If an email needs a quick
reply, you can click on Quick Reply and an Outlook Express (or your
default email) compose window will open, already addressed to the
sender. It also does multiple email accounts. You can download
Magic Mail Monitor at:

http://mmm3.sourceforge.net/
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Your advice is good in general. Still, I don't know what you mean
when you say that AVG "performs well." It has not performed well in
comparative testing, in general, although recent results have shown
some improvement. As I pointed out in an earlier post, the fact that
one has had no virus infections while using any given program is not
in itself a reliable indicator of efficacy.

Not sure what world you live in, but that's really the only practical way to
measure how good a product is. People buy something, it works great for
them, they buy it again and tell there friends to buy it. Most do not look
at test after test to decide which soap is the best for them or which
cleaner is the best. They look at price, commercials, and marketing, choose
a product, if it works thery keep it, if it doesn't they toss it.
In independent studies I seen Volvo cars were #1 in safety, yet there are
hundreds of other models available. How can this be? Why don't we all have
Volvos. The test say they're the best, so there shouldn't even be any other
cars and we certainly shouldn't ever say another car is better because the
independant tests say the Volvo is the best. It outperforms all cars in
safety yet they have one of the smallest market shares. Could it be because
practical people, in general, don't care about independant tests, they care
about real world experience. You're view is a typical liberal view, using
polls and comparisons to try to force what you think is your opinion on
others, never caring how that product works in the real world. Little do you
know what you think is your opinion is just what the left wing media has
drilled into your head and you just regurgitate their views. Try thinking
for yourself for once and use YOUR experience to guide your way. Don't fall
into the liberal trap that if someone doesn't agree with you they are wrong,
because that's just not a realistic view. Everyone has or should have their
own opinions. Mine is that I like avg better.

I'm glad that you're happy with AVG, and I wouldn't think of trying to
convince you or anyone else to use something else. All I was saying was that
it's a good idea to have a *basis* for an opinion. It's certainly not a
requirement--you're free to stumble through life without thinking about what
you're doing if you want to. I'll reiterate, though, that it's
irresponsible to offer an opinion on an important subject unless you add a
disclaimer to the effect that you have no idea what you're talking about. I
get the feeling, though, that anyone having a conversation with you for more
than about thirty seconds will know that anyway.

 

[Phil]

In line...



Do you mean you *couldn't* care less? Why are you touting AVG if you
have no idea what you're talking about, and have no interest in
finding out? What you're saying is, "I'm an idiot and I use AVG, so
you should too."

I said I use it, I like it, and I think it's a top of the line av program.
That's all I said. I never said it was better than nortons and called
nortons they're notorious nickname, bloatware. Everyone calls it that. Get a
grip dude. You're trying to read something that I never said. I said I think
it a great program, that's it. Geez........

No, it's *irresponsible* to give advice on a subject as important as
computer security if you don't know what you're talking about, and
don't care.

Here we go again. What is wrong with you liberals. When did I ever say that
I don't care about computer security. NEVER. Let me repeat that again.
NEVER. I gave my opinion. To f@#king bad if you don't agree, that doesn't
make you right, it's just says we have a difference of opinion. And NO ONE,
and I mean NO ONE, in this group will ever say that recommending avg is bad
advice or irresponsible and that anyone that does doesn't know what they're
talking about. That's just ignorance and jealousy talking. It's not
irresponsible to say I like avg, give it a try.

Wally my a$$. It's *your* logic, you moron.

Typical lib - my view is no where near your dog in a computer idiotic
statement.

It doesn't make any difference that my way of thinking is the
minority if I'm right.

Again typical lib. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them
wrong. It means we don't agree. A smart person knows this and uses other
points of view as info to shape and validate his point of view. There's no
need to tell or even think someone else is wrong because they disagree with
you. Once you grow more you'll accept this fact. I pray for you and your
kind.