New Theory: One (Or more?) of the memory chips was damaged by plastic tape.


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Skybuck Flying

Hello,

I just followed Cub's tips:

1. Load bios with default settings, which made the apm configuration return
!

2. Swap memory chip with another memory chip.

So far the other memory chip seems to be working fine. More testing needs to
be done though.

So the good news could be:

One memory chip is probably damaged.
One memory chip might be working ok.
Don't know about the other two.
This could mean the power supply is good after all.

For the bad chip:
Kinda strange though how the motherboard kept saying something was bad
during startup... like settings bad or something. I kept losing it's bios
settings... maybe it will remember it now. Also ECC was enabled by default ?
When I turned it off with the bad memory chip the system hang... haven't
tried that with the supposedly good chip.

The bad
I already ordered a new power supply. So that's probably 170 euro's wasted
or so ;)

Back to the good
Fortunately I was only using 2 GB out of 4 GB when the system was working
ok.

So if I can find another memory chip which is good... then I am in pretty
good shape...

Just shame of the waste of money... gje...

One graphics card: 700 euro pretty much wasted. < too hot.
Motherboard sli: <- wasted.
One memory chip: dont know how much this cost... mabe like 80 euro's or so.
Power supply wasted: 170 euro's...
Bad case wasted: 80 euro's or so.

Close to 1000 euro's wasted on pc.

If I can sell some stuff maybe it's ok... lol... I never sell that kinda
stuff but ok.

Currently I am running PC Mark 2005... so far no system crashes.

Gje.

So the end the story memory chip was probably damaged by sticky tape which I
put inside on in the old case to experiment with airflow... so partially me
to blame... but also partially old case to blame... if it had good airflow I
wouldn't have needed to experiment with it.

Thanks to Cub to helping me out ! :)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
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Skybuck Flying

Shit more bad news for me.

Suppose the memory chip is indeed bad... then more bad luck for me.

The chip was also from iComputers which is now out of bussines...

I wonder if maybe... just maybe... other webshops could rma that stuff for
me ???

Probably not though ? ;) :(((

I feel stupid now...

If I really killed that chip myself than I wanna kill myself LOL.

I am sure some of you guys would like that..

But I won't do that !

I usually have no problems with computers and hardware.

I guess it was my time to get burned bad...

Shitty.

I am just crossing my fingers and hoping that my conclusion is this time the
correct one.

Maybe I just keep all the other stuff as backup components in case problems
pop-up again.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

The only weird thing is:

Why would it fail only after a couple of weeks ?

So it happened like so:

1. Plastic tape fell down on memory chips:

2. System crashed twice.

3. Me realize something is wrong and remove plastic tape.

4. System works fine for another two or three weeks.. maybe one crash or so
but maybe related to something else.

5. Then suddenly system starts hanging a lot... ?

Kinda strange...

But then again these are tiny little thingies... maybe it just took a while
before the damaged propagated through the chip or so... or maybe just heat
from system that caused it to die... or combination or so... who knows ;)

I am tired at the moment... tomorrow I will do some heavy gaming and such to
see if system remain stable ;)

Maybe that not such a good test... since maybe it will work again for three
weeks and then crash again...

I don't wanna run memtest tool and leave my pc unattended sounds dangerous
to me...

So the gaming test will have to do for now ;) :)

Also the new power supply is modulair... cables can be removed and such and
has blue lights... but I will probably leave it in the box anyway... don't
wanna go through all the hassle.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Frequencies, Voltages, Etc are still not reported in nvidia monitor tool.

That's kinda strange... or maybe it's normal... I don't know...

Maybe just a driver shortcoming or bug in the nvidia stuff.

Now I wish Windows XP x64 Pro had a good stress testing program ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Little correction:

GPU Frequencies are displayed in nvidia monitor.
GPU Voltages are not dislayed in nvidia monitor.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Ok,

I just played Call of Duty 4, the Warpig level, plus the fly level that
comes after it.

Plus again a little bit of fighting.

So far with this single 1 gb memory chip the system seems ok. Wow :)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
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Skybuck Flying

Ok,

Today I played Call of Duty 4 for multiple hours.

3 out of 4 Memory chips seem to be ok :)

Bye,
Skybuck =D
 
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Heidi Ingolstadt

Skybuck said:
Hello,

I just followed Cub's tips:

1. Load bios with default settings, which made the apm configuration return
!

2. Swap memory chip with another memory chip.

So far the other memory chip seems to be working fine. More testing needs to
be done though.

So the good news could be:

One memory chip is probably damaged.
One memory chip might be working ok.
Don't know about the other two.
This could mean the power supply is good after all.

For the bad chip:
Kinda strange though how the motherboard kept saying something was bad
during startup... like settings bad or something. I kept losing it's bios
settings... maybe it will remember it now. Also ECC was enabled by default ?
When I turned it off with the bad memory chip the system hang... haven't
tried that with the supposedly good chip.

The bad
I already ordered a new power supply. So that's probably 170 euro's wasted
or so ;)

Back to the good
Fortunately I was only using 2 GB out of 4 GB when the system was working
ok.

So if I can find another memory chip which is good... then I am in pretty
good shape...

Just shame of the waste of money... gje...

One graphics card: 700 euro pretty much wasted. < too hot.
Motherboard sli: <- wasted.
One memory chip: dont know how much this cost... mabe like 80 euro's or so.
Power supply wasted: 170 euro's...
Bad case wasted: 80 euro's or so.

Close to 1000 euro's wasted on pc.

If I can sell some stuff maybe it's ok... lol... I never sell that kinda
stuff but ok.

Currently I am running PC Mark 2005... so far no system crashes.

Gje.

So the end the story memory chip was probably damaged by sticky tape which I
put inside on in the old case to experiment with airflow... so partially me
to blame... but also partially old case to blame... if it had good airflow I
wouldn't have needed to experiment with it.

Thanks to Cub to helping me out ! :)

Bye,
Skybuck.
I believe that a little green ones might have their fingers in
there...as well! Are you alright or you just need a lots of attention?
Your components are fried by the ESD, dude...you cannot, I repeat cannot
hold them on polished table top! Hey dude, each component inside that
chips are 0.45-0.1 nm in size...and if you ever had static burst out of
your finger then you can see it is few millimeters long...do you need
further explanation what few thousands volts can do to such a fine craft
in your PC? If you really need further info, try to hit the hard
concrete wall with ya head few times then maybe something comes quite
clearer...njoy!!
 

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