There are two ways to start the Recovery Console:
a.. If you are unable to start your computer, you can run the Recovery
Console from your Setup CD.
b.. As an alternative, you can install the Recovery Console on your
computer to make it available in case you are unable to restart Windows. You
can then select the Recovery Console option from the list of available
operating systems on startup.
After you start the Recovery Console you will have to choose which
installation you want to log on to (if you have a dual-boot or multiple-boot
system) and you will have to log on with your administrator password.
The console provides commands you can use to do simple operations such as
changing to a different directory or viewing a directory, and more powerful
operations such as fixing the boot sector. You can access Help for the
commands in the Recovery Console by typing help at the Recovery Console
command prompt.
--
Ronald Sommer
:I simply did not see the option at all. I went to my computer and right
: clicked and selected manage. I the selected disk management and
highlighted
: the drive. The info I listed was from that and I also right clicked on it
: and that option was not there. Am I in the wrong place to check that?
:
: "John John" wrote:
:
: > Do the fixboot and fixmbr commands in the Recovery Console. The warning
: > that you get when you issue the fixmbr command is a standard warning
: > message for that procedure. I can't guarantee anything, it is possible
: > that fixing (re-writing) the MBR may make the disc inaccessible but that
: > does not happen very often for standard MBR discs. It is a risk that
: > you will have to take if you want to try to fix the problem, you still
: > have your original disc as a backup, right? So if things go ka-boom!
: > you have a backup to rely on. Incidentally I think that the reason that
: > the disc doesn't want to boot is because it doesn't have a proper Master
: > Boot Record, it wasn't done by the cloning operation. Run the commands
: > and see what happens. At this point to attempt to repair the
: > installation you have to accept the risk that things may not turn out as
: > desired, but you have to take the risk and at least try.
: >
: > If running the commands doesn't fix the problem then you can use the F10
: > option to install Windows and do an In-Place Upgrade, or what is more
: > commonly called a "Repair Install". There is a link to a Microsoft
: > article explaining this proceedure in an earlier post, basically you
: > just reinstall Windows over itself. Also, I'm still somewhat not
: > certain that your partition is marked or flagged as active. The results
: > of our earlier test in the Disk Management console were not conclusive,
: > was the option to do so there but simply unavailable (greyed out) or did
: > you not see any option to do so at all? If it was there but just greyed
: > out then the partition is probably active and ok.
: >
: > John
: >
: > JohnH wrote:
: >
: > > I noticed that when I hit the F10 key to bring up the option to go
into the
: > > repair console I am also given the option of loading XP. Would
loading this
: > > generate the boot sector I need? I entered the repair console and
pressed F6
: > > to load the Sato/150 PCI Card from a disk then I went into the console
and
: > > was going to run fixmbr but it said that if I proceeded I would erase
the mbr
: > > on it and it may make it unaccessable. Is this a normal warning given
when
: > > this command is run? I did not proceed and exited to get your
opinion. I do
: > > not mean to be so cautious but I have been frustrated with this for a
week
: > > and do not wish to do any damage and ask for your patience with me.
Thanks
: > >
: > > "John John" wrote:
: > >
: > >
: > >>Run both commands.
: > >>
: > >>John
: > >>
: > >>JohnH wrote:
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>>I did but there was no option to make it active/inactive. I want to
try and
: > >>>run the Repair Console so do I need to run just fixboot or run both
fixboot
: > >>>and fixmbr.
: > >>>
: > >>>"John John" wrote:
: > >>>
: > >>>
: > >>>
: > >>>>It's probably already active but just to make sure right click on it
and
: > >>>>see if it can be made active in the context menu.
: > >>>>
: > >>>>John
: > >>>>
: > >>>>JohnH wrote:
: > >>>>
: > >>>>
: > >>>>
: > >>>>>I went into disk management and it had the following information
about the
: > >>>>>drive:
: > >>>>>DRV2_VOL1 (C
, Type= Basic, Status= Online, Partition Style=
Master Boot
: > >>>>>Record(MBR). I did not see " active" but it stated Healthy System.
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>"John John" wrote:
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>>Use the password for the "Built-In" Administrator account, not
your
: > >>>>>>account. When you log on to the Recovery Console you do so with
the
: > >>>>>>Built-In Administrator account. More often than not the password
for
: > >>>>>>the account was left blank, you can just try pressing <Enter>. If
you
: > >>>>>>have administrative privileges you can change the password for the
: > >>>>>>Built-In Administrator account, that way you will be sure that you
have
: > >>>>>>the right password when you try to access the Recovery Console.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>Also, while your installation is up and running use the Disk
Management
: > >>>>>>tool and make sure that you have a properly identified System
Partition
: > >>>>>>and that it is marked as "Active". If it is so identified and
marked
: > >>>>>>and still won't boot then do both commands (fixmbr & fixboot) as
Ron
: > >>>>>>suggested.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>John
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>JohnH wrote:
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>I am set as the administrator but my password does not work with
the Recovery
: > >>>>>>>Console. I switched to classic view and went to the Admin Tools
to enable
: > >>>>>>>this, but there was not a Local Security Policy file or folder
to click on
: > >>>>>>>as instructed by your knowledge base article. The following
files or folders
: > >>>>>>>are available for selection:
: > >>>>>>>1. Component Services
: > >>>>>>>2. Data Sources (ODBC)
: > >>>>>>>3. Event Viewer
: > >>>>>>>4. Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1 Wizards
: > >>>>>>>5. Services
: > >>>>>>>6. Computer Management
: > >>>>>>>7. Desktop.ini
: > >>>>>>>8. Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1 Configuration
: > >>>>>>>9. Performance
: > >>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>I was able to boot the system with the XP cd but I believe that a
boot
: > >>>>>>>sector must be missing as per Ron's advice. Any help with the
admin password
: > >>>>>>>should get me access to fix it. Do I need to run both fixmbr and
fixboot or
: > >>>>>>>just fixboot alone?
: > >>>>>>>"John John" wrote:
: > >>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>Do as Ron suggested, if it works it's the easiest way to get
your
: > >>>>>>>>installation up and running again.
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console
: > >>>>>>>>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>Note that you may have to press the F6 key early in the setup
process
: > >>>>>>>>and have the Maxtor SATO/150 PCI Card drivers on a diskette so
that the
: > >>>>>>>>setup program may load them and properly identify your disc.
See here
: > >>>>>>>>for information on storage controller drivers and Windows setup:
: > >>>>>>>>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>Another quick check you can try is to see if you can boot the
computer
: > >>>>>>>>with a startup floppy diskette. See here for information on how
to
: > >>>>>>>>create such a disk:
http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/ntboot/ Note
that with
: > >>>>>>>>your hard disc on the Maxtor controller you will probably have
to edit
: > >>>>>>>>the rdisk value in the boot.ini file, you can use the MAP ARC
command
: > >>>>>>>>in the Recovery Console to get the proper ARC path and rdisk
value for
: > >>>>>>>>the boot.ini file. See here for more information:
: >: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>John
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>JohnH wrote:
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>If I understand you correctly you want me to try and do a fresh
install of
: > >>>>>>>>>the Windows XP w/SP2. It would take awhile but I am willing to
start fresh
: > >>>>>>>>>if it gets the new HDD in and the small out. I just have a few
questions
: > >>>>>>>>>before doing this.
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>1. The Windows XP was an upgrade from the Windows Me that was
installed in
: > >>>>>>>>>the system and all I got was a restore disk. Do I need the
Windows Me disk?
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>2. Can just booting the the XP upgrade work without an OS in
place?
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>3. Do you know if it is reccomended to disable the motherboard
IDE or just
: > >>>>>>>>>leave on auto?
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>"Anna" wrote:
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>: > >>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Western Digital 160GB Caviar SE EIDE Drive. My
motherboard
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>is older so I was instructed to add a Maxtor SATO/150 PCI
Card so the
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>full capacity of the HDD would be detected. I connected it
and copied the
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>old drive over to it. After completion I was instructed to
disconnect
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>the
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>old and put the new in it's place. Upon restart it ask for
a boot disk
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>to
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>be installed. When I bought the system it had Windows ME on
it and I do
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>not have a software disk but I was given a restore disk. I
later
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>upgraded
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>to Windows XP w/ SP2. Can I use the restore disk or the
Windows XP
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>upgrade disk as the boot disc. The support from Western
Digital states
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>that it may
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>need to be done and some not, so I am confused as to how to
make this as
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>quick and painless as posible. I also would like to know if
disabling
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>the the
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>primary IDE off the motherboard in the CMOS would help too.
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>"Ron Sommer" wrote:
: > >>>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>The new disk needs a boot sector.
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>If you just copied the partition, you didn't get the boot
sector.
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>You can run fixmbr and fixboot.
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>--
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>Ronald Sommer
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>: > >>>>>>>>>>>>I used the HDD Installation Tool software to copy the
partition from the
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>old drive to the new, I guess that would be a clone. The
transfer seemed
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>uneventful and removal of the old drive was done. It seems
to be asking
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>for a boot disk upon reboot once the old drive is removed.
Can the
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>Windows ME
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>restore disk be used? Can the Windows XP w/SP2 upgrade be
used? Anymore
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>advice would be greatly appreciated.
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>"Rich Barry" wrote:
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>John, you may have a setting in the Bios for that Maxtor
Card. In
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>there will give you the ability to select the boot disk.
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>How did you copy the old drive to the new? Did you image
it or clone
: > >>>>>>>>>>>>it?
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>>How is this done? Once it is connected it requests a boot
disk at
: > >>>>>>>>>>>start-up.
: > >>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for any help you can provide.
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>JohnH:
: > >>>>>>>>>>Maybe it's a good idea to start from the beginning, OK?
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>1. Your old HDD booted without incident and functioned without
any problems
: > >>>>>>>>>>when it was installed, right? Its only problem was its small
disk capacity,
: > >>>>>>>>>>right?
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>2. Now you've purchased a large-capacity WD SATA HDD and a
SATA controller
: > >>>>>>>>>>card for connecting that SATA HDD, yes? And you've installed
the SATA
: > >>>>>>>>>>controller card with no problems, right?
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>3. Setting aside the disk copying program (Maxtor? WD?) you
used to copy the
: > >>>>>>>>>>contents of your old PATA HDD to the new SATA HDD...
: > >>>>>>>>>>How about making a fresh install of the XP OS onto your SATA
HDD? Will it
: > >>>>>>>>>>boot & function without any problems if you do this?
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>Would it be possible for you to do this and then install your
programs on
: > >>>>>>>>>>the freshly-installed XP OS? I assume you would have no
problem copying over
: > >>>>>>>>>>your user-created data from the old HDD to the new SATA HDD,
right? Or is it
: > >>>>>>>>>>too impractical to fresh install all your programs onto your
new SATA HDD?
: > >>>>>>>>>>Anna
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>>>
: > >>>>>>>>
: >
