new cpu/mobo/memory, old HD, Blue Death Screen when upgrade past SP2

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foo1

hello,
i'm using a new cpu/mobo/memory, i basically repaired with the win2k OS
CD and it somehow
sent my SP back to SP2, now when i try to upgrade it instantly quits
and I actually get
a BLACK screen, with illegible blue scribble on the top repeatedly

do i have to reinstall, or is this kind of thing somehow fixable

i'm out of ideas

thanks in advance for any ideas/ help


M
 
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Dave Patrick

Yes, I'd clean install after you recover your data from a parallel install.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/266465

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver
for your drive controller in drive "A")

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en


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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
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foo1

well i'd rather not, are you saying that there is no workaround for
this situation, which i'm sure is fairly common

thanks for replying i know how to reinstall from scratch

Yes, I'd clean install after you recover your data from a parallel install.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/266465

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver
for your drive controller in drive "A")

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)http://download.microsoft.com/downl...t.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&fa...

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]http://www.microsoft.com/protect

foo1 said:
hello,
i'm using a new cpu/mobo/memory, i basically repaired with the win2k OS
CD and it somehow
sent my SP back to SP2, now when i try to upgrade it instantly quits
and I actually get
a BLACK screen, with illegible blue scribble on the top repeatedly
do i have to reinstall, or is this kind of thing somehow fixable
i'm out of ideas
thanks in advance for any ideas/ help
 
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paulmd

foo1 said:
well i'd rather not, are you saying that there is no workaround for
this situation, which i'm sure is fairly common

thanks for replying i know how to reinstall from scratch
The problem with Repair installs is they're messy. Cuz you only do one
if the OS is badly broken somehow. Finding out what, in the several
thousand things that's still messed up..... is EXTREMLY time consuming,
and each case is different.

A CLEAN install will be MUCH less hassle. Still time consuming, but not
"I've tried everything I can think of and it still isn't working right"
kind of time consuming.

Given the title of the post, I suppose you're upgrading your machine.
In which case: you probably have some evil driver issue. Unplug and
uninstall as many devices as you can, then try applying sp4. That is,
if you want to beat your head against the brick wall one more time.

Also, try upgrading to sp4 in safe mode.
 
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foo1

ya makes lot of sense, maybe i just wanted to hear what is normally
done, for, your right, upgrading the system

thx for answering, i've 2 HDs think i'll just parallel install and copy
things over on the main HD, then boot from CD and clone that HD to the
2nd HD

doesn't seem to be any harm of parallel installs, versus reformat
installs, not sure why 1st poster was suggesting i do a reformat
install

cheers
 
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foo1

ya makes lot of sense, maybe i just wanted to hear what is normally
done, for, your right, upgrading the system

thx for answering, i've 2 HDs think i'll just parallel install and copy
things over on the main HD, then boot from CD and clone that HD to the
2nd HD

doesn't seem to be any harm of parallel installs, versus reformat
installs, not sure why 1st poster was suggesting i do a reformat
install

cheers
 
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paulmd

foo1 said:
ya makes lot of sense, maybe i just wanted to hear what is normally
done, for, your right, upgrading the system

thx for answering, i've 2 HDs think i'll just parallel install and copy
things over on the main HD, then boot from CD and clone that HD to the
2nd HD

doesn't seem to be any harm of parallel installs, versus reformat
installs, not sure why 1st poster was suggesting i do a reformat
install

Dave's a good technician, Reformat installs are several times more
reliable.
 
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foo1

trouble now is that i've started to reinstall over my main HD, and it
would not allow a parallell installation so, i bit the bullet overwrote
the whole thing with a full formatting, then i believed stopped the
installation after that, tried to continue later and now i have a
300gig HD saying it is 137gig and/or showing like 5 empty partitions
with the 137 gig partitions
i did a low level format from the maxtor HD tool, however still am
stuck with the wrong HD size, i believe the HD is 'locked'? and/or
this has somethign to do with an 'overlay' but again have no idea how
to fix this

can you help on getting the HD to show as 300gig again?


M
 
F

foo1

trouble with the 2 links to MS answers is that
1) my mobo essentially failed , so there was no ability to upgrade
from a running system
2) article 2 states that M$ does not support anything except using the
same hardware, which is not my situation

my mobo would not boot, so i upgraded the whole mb/cpu/memory
 
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paulmd

foo1 said:
trouble now is that i've started to reinstall over my main HD, and it
would not allow a parallell installation so, i bit the bullet overwrote
the whole thing with a full formatting, then i believed stopped the
installation after that, tried to continue later and now i have a
300gig HD saying it is 137gig and/or showing like 5 empty partitions
with the 137 gig partitions
i did a low level format from the maxtor HD tool, however still am
stuck with the wrong HD size, i believe the HD is 'locked'? and/or
this has somethign to do with an 'overlay' but again have no idea how
to fix this

can you help on getting the HD to show as 300gig again?


Your service pack revision is part of it. Your Install disk is Sp2, I
presume. You need at least sp3 to break the 137GB barrier.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098

http://www.48bitlba.com/

Aren't computers fun?
 
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foo1

maybe its time to ditch w2k and start on XP , though i can't afford to
buy XP , maybe its less buggy than win2k by now?
 
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paulmd

foo1 said:
maybe its time to ditch w2k and start on XP , though i can't afford to
buy XP , maybe its less buggy than win2k by now?

Well, there are a couple of ways to work this. A new copy of Xp will
include SP2 slipstreamed into the install disk. Yay, problem solved.

The other way is to use a partition resizing program such as partition
magic, After applying Sp4, and the necessary registry edit. Of course.

In terms of overall bugginess, there isn't really much difference
between fully patched win2k and fully patched XP. Both are really
pretty stable.

Xp will allow you IE7, and Windows media player 11. If you care about
that.
 

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