networking using a hub

[Guest]

Is it possible to create a home network using just a hub?? I have 2 nics in
computer 1 and 1 nic in comp. 2. Local area 1 connected direct to net via
dsl modem, Local area 2 connected to hub port1 and comp. 2 connected to hub
port2 (no connection to uplink). I bridged connections on comp 1 allowing
comp 2 access to the net but I can not set up a network between computers
even though comp 1 is allowing comp 2 to send and receive info from the
web.....I dont have a router, which i know is the simplest solution but I
dont have the $$.....Any Suggestions??

 

[Chuck]

Is it possible to create a home network using just a hub?? I have 2 nics in
computer 1 and 1 nic in comp. 2. Local area 1 connected direct to net via
dsl modem, Local area 2 connected to hub port1 and comp. 2 connected to hub
port2 (no connection to uplink). I bridged connections on comp 1 allowing
comp 2 access to the net but I can not set up a network between computers
even though comp 1 is allowing comp 2 to send and receive info from the
web.....I dont have a router, which i know is the simplest solution but I
dont have the $$.....Any Suggestions??

Are you using a bridge because it's convenient, or because ICS won't work? Far
better would be to run the Network Setup Wizard on Computer 1, and select
This computer connects directly to the Internet. The other computers on my
network connect to the Internet through this computer.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#ICSHost>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#ICSHost

Then run the wizard on Computer 2, and select
This computer connects to the Internet through another computer on my network or
through a residential gateway.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient

Remove the bridge, and make sure that Windows Firewall is setup properly, to
protect both computers.

But are you really using a bridge, and getting 2 IP addresses out of your DSL
service? How is it that you can afford DSL, and a service that provides
multiple IP addresses even, and yet can't afford a router?

 

[Guest]

Chuck he has internet but needs filesharing.

Since internet is working don't do anything about that.

A good place to start is Help and Support off the Start menu on your pc.
Look up file sharing and home network.

In a nutshell:
same workgroup
install file and print sharing
share something like a folder on both
use the same account and password on both
configure the firewall to "trust" your subnet or disable it until you have
networking working.

 

[Chuck]

Chuck he has internet but needs filesharing.

Since internet is working don't do anything about that.

A good place to start is Help and Support off the Start menu on your pc.
Look up file sharing and home network.

In a nutshell:
same workgroup
install file and print sharing
share something like a folder on both
use the same account and password on both
configure the firewall to "trust" your subnet or disable it until you have
networking working.

The NSW does all of that. Read the instructions. Then read about proper
protection.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html

And file sharing techniques, after you get everything else working.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html

But do it in layers, or you could be all week.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html

 

[Guest]

Hi chuck......im on contract for dsl and i have recently lost my job.....my
dsl provider gives access for two ip addresses as a standard for
everyone...Telus is a great company. I have tried the internet connection
sharing and I have done this in the past with a crossover cable, so I do
understand how to do it. Unfortunatly I no longer have a crossover but I am
going to try it that way again for the heck of it.......maybe I missed
something. Thanks for the advice.

DraVeN

 

[Chuck]

Hi chuck......im on contract for dsl and i have recently lost my job.....my
dsl provider gives access for two ip addresses as a standard for
everyone...Telus is a great company. I have tried the internet connection
sharing and I have done this in the past with a crossover cable, so I do
understand how to do it. Unfortunatly I no longer have a crossover but I am
going to try it that way again for the heck of it.......maybe I missed
something. Thanks for the advice.

DraVeN

OK, we will try and help the best we can, so thanks for the details.

If it's a case of physical connectivity, and a crossover cable is required, then
no amount of fiddling is going to help if you only have a straight thru cable.
So first read about using a crossover cable.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/connecting-two-computers-with.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/connecting-two-computers-with.html

Now, if you're getting DSL with 2 IP addresses, then you'd do better to connect
the hub to the DSL modem, and each computer directly to the hub. Then run the
NSW on each computer, and select
This computer connects to the Internet directly or through a network hub. Other
computers on my network also connect to the Internet directly or through a hub.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#MultiDirect>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#MultiDirect

Then use IPX/SPX for file sharing.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html

A simpler (and more common) solution would be to forget about the bridge, and
use ICS to share one IP address from your ISP.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/ics-is-ok-but-you-can-do-better.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/ics-is-ok-but-you-can-do-better.html

Now to physically connect the two computers, you'll need either 1 crossover
cable (connected computer to computer), or two straight thru cables (connected
computer to hub to computer). That's your choice. A hub is not an active
electrical component, it simply creates a crossover between the computers. And
you can use either, with either the bridge, or with ICS.

But you need to get a reliable physical network setup first. If the physical
stuff doesn't work, you'll not get any protocol (TCP/IP or IPX/SPX), nor file
sharing, working.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/layered-testing-in-windows-networking.html#Physical>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/06/layered-testing-in-windows-networking.html#Physical