Networking 2 XP Pro systems w/ crossover cable

[Bill]

Ok let's see if I can explain this without confusing you and myself..... I
have 2 computers, both running XP Pro, fully updated widows updates, drivers
etc. Computer A is a Dell Dimension 2350 Broadcom 440x 10/100 Network card
2.0GHz P4 256 MB RAM also computer A has the internet connection. Computer B
is a Dell Optiplex GX100 3Com 3C920 10/100 integrated network card, 700 MHz
Celeron 320 MB Ram. They are linked directly with a crossover ethernet
cable. This has really got me confused.....I have ran the network setup
wizard on both computers choosing the appropriate settings for each system.
The internet connection is shared and working just fine. Both have netbios
over tcp/ip enabled. Simple file sharing is disabled on both machines and as
I want all drives shared with all systems, there was an administrative share
automatically setup on the root of all drives for me. Workgroup name is the
same: MSHOME, computer names are different. Computer A has XP's ICF enabled
ONLY on the net connection, not the LAN connection. Computer B has NIS 2003
installed and running (remember A is the host here and B is the client)
before I configured NIS the network connection didn't work at all, so I
configured it and now I get some form of communication between the 2
systems. I can ping either machine from either machine and it works fine. If
I go into my network places and click view workgroup computers I get an
error message saying that "Mshome is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource. Contact the administartor of this
server to find out if you have access permissions. The List of servers for
this workgroup is not currently available." If I click start>run on computer
B and type in \\ followed by computer A's name i can browse most of what's
shared there, but if I do the same in reverse I get the message saying
"\\computername is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. contact the administartor of this server to find out if
you have access permissions. The account is not authorized to log in from
this station." There are 2 accounts with identical names and passwords on
each system, so I know that is not the problem. Any help anyone can give me
is greatly appreciated. TIA

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[Chuck]

Ok let's see if I can explain this without confusing you and myself..... I
have 2 computers, both running XP Pro, fully updated widows updates, drivers
etc. Computer A is a Dell Dimension 2350 Broadcom 440x 10/100 Network card
2.0GHz P4 256 MB RAM also computer A has the internet connection. Computer B
is a Dell Optiplex GX100 3Com 3C920 10/100 integrated network card, 700 MHz
Celeron 320 MB Ram. They are linked directly with a crossover ethernet
cable. This has really got me confused.....I have ran the network setup
wizard on both computers choosing the appropriate settings for each system.
The internet connection is shared and working just fine. Both have netbios
over tcp/ip enabled. Simple file sharing is disabled on both machines and as
I want all drives shared with all systems, there was an administrative share
automatically setup on the root of all drives for me. Workgroup name is the
same: MSHOME, computer names are different. Computer A has XP's ICF enabled
ONLY on the net connection, not the LAN connection. Computer B has NIS 2003
installed and running (remember A is the host here and B is the client)
before I configured NIS the network connection didn't work at all, so I
configured it and now I get some form of communication between the 2
systems. I can ping either machine from either machine and it works fine. If
I go into my network places and click view workgroup computers I get an
error message saying that "Mshome is not accessible. You might not have
permission to use this network resource. Contact the administartor of this
server to find out if you have access permissions. The List of servers for
this workgroup is not currently available." If I click start>run on computer
B and type in \\ followed by computer A's name i can browse most of what's
shared there, but if I do the same in reverse I get the message saying
"\\computername is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. contact the administartor of this server to find out if
you have access permissions. The account is not authorized to log in from
this station." There are 2 accounts with identical names and passwords on
each system, so I know that is not the problem. Any help anyone can give me
is greatly appreciated. TIA

Bill,

I think you have 2 problems.

It sounds to me like you still don't have NIS on B configured just right. You
apparently have it working for ICMP, but you need to configure it for file
sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and UDP 137, 138, 445 for the Local
(Trusted) zone.

Also, make sure the browser service is running on each computer. Control Panel
- Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser service is
started.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Bill]

Thanks for the tip chuck, that has helped somewhat. I have opened the ports
you suggested for NIS on computer B and the browser service is started and
running on both machines. I have most functionality now, however I still
have a problem with computer A...anytime I go to my network places and click
view workgroup computers, I get the same message as before basically atating
that the account is not authorized to log in from this station. In the local
security policies I have the sharing and security model set to classic and
as I mentioned before I have 2 user accounts on each machine with the same
name and password. I may have some setting on B changed to not allow this,
but I'm not sure as these machines are normally standalone workstations and
I think I remember a setting having to do with this, but I'm really not
sure. Once again any help is appreciated. TIA



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[Chuck]

Thanks for the tip chuck, that has helped somewhat. I have opened the ports
you suggested for NIS on computer B and the browser service is started and
running on both machines. I have most functionality now, however I still
have a problem with computer A...anytime I go to my network places and click
view workgroup computers, I get the same message as before basically atating
that the account is not authorized to log in from this station. In the local
security policies I have the sharing and security model set to classic and
as I mentioned before I have 2 user accounts on each machine with the same
name and password. I may have some setting on B changed to not allow this,
but I'm not sure as these machines are normally standalone workstations and
I think I remember a setting having to do with this, but I'm really not
sure. Once again any help is appreciated. TIA

Bill,

You say "...that has helped somewhat". With which problem? And can you please
describe the problem remaining in more detail?

You say you have 2 accounts with identical passwords (identical in case
sensitivity right?)? Are both accounts active on both computers? Have you
tried to use both accounts from computer A?

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Are both computers running XP Pro?

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Bill]

By "helped somewhat" I mean that computer A can now see the shares etc. and
browse the network. Computer A cannot do this. Both machines are running xp
pro as previously stated (maybe missed). Both machines have identical user
accounts, case sensitive and all. I cannot get the contents of ipconfig /all
to output to a file. Is there a setting somewhere to not allow a logon from
the network etc? I'm really stumped on this.
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[Chuck]

By "helped somewhat" I mean that computer A can now see the shares etc. and
browse the network. Computer A cannot do this. Both machines are running xp
pro as previously stated (maybe missed). Both machines have identical user
accounts, case sensitive and all. I cannot get the contents of ipconfig /all
to output to a file. Is there a setting somewhere to not allow a logon from
the network etc? I'm really stumped on this.

Bill,

OK, please try again.

"I mean that computer A can now see the shares etc. and browse the network.
Computer A cannot do this.".

Remain calm, and be patient with me. Yes, you did state XP Pro twice. My bad.
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There are indeed settings to not allow a "logon from the network" (file
sharing). They're called the Access Control List, or ACL. Each share has an
ACL. You can see the ACL, for a given share, from the share Properties wizard -
Sharing tab - Permissions. The Security tab, incidentally, is for local access.

Try and re describe the remaining problem again. One computer can both see the
shares, and browse the network. Can it also access the shares? Can the other
computer do none of those things, or can it do some but not all? Exactly what
can each computer do? And which computer is which?

From each computer, test shares visibility (use actual name / address of each
computer as appropriate):
Start - Run then:
1) \\ThisComputerByName
2) \\ThisComputerByIPAddress
3) \\OtherComputerByName
4) \\OtherComputerByIPAddress
Report visibility of shares / exact error displayed in each test (8 tests
total).

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.