Network all screwed up!

[Guest]

Our new TV has a connection for use as a computer monitor so I bought a new computer. I moved the old Gateway computer with Windows 98 to the living room and the new Gateway computer with Windows XP Home in the our home office where the old computer used to reside. I had to buy and install a wired fast ethernet 10/100 network card in the old computer. The new computer aleady has a network card. I also bought a 4-port router to hook it all up. All the connections on the router are ethernet. I connected my cable modem into the router at the internet port and each computer to the router's LAN ports using ethernet cables. I used port 1 for the Windows 98 living room computer and port 3 for the Windows XP office computer. At first, I couldn't get anything to work. I could not even connect to the internet. I called my internet provider and straightened out my internet connection but I still have no network. I can connect to the internet on both computers now but neither computer shows the other computer on the network. I've tried almost everything for a couple of weeks and I still have no network. Is this an impossible task? I'm turning blue in the face!

 

[Chuck]

Our new TV has a connection for use as a computer monitor so I bought a new computer. I moved the old Gateway computer with Windows 98 to the living room and the new Gateway computer with Windows XP Home in the our home office where the old computer used to reside. I had to buy and install a wired fast ethernet 10/100 network card in the old computer. The new computer aleady has a network card. I also bought a 4-port router to hook it all up. All the connections on the router are ethernet. I connected my cable modem into the router at the internet port and each computer to the router's LAN ports using ethernet cables. I used port 1 for the Windows 98 living room computer and port 3 for the Windows XP office computer. At first, I couldn't get anything to work. I could not even connect to the internet. I called my internet provider and straightened out my internet connection but I still have no network. I can connect to the internet on both computers now but neither computer shows the
other computer on the network. I've tried almost everything for a couple of weeks and I still have no network. Is this an impossible task? I'm turning blue in the face!

Tommy,

It's not an impossible task. But sometimes it almost seems that way.

If you can access internet from both computers, you're half way there.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in
Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Do you have any software firewalls (ICF or third party) on any computer? Ever?

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Jack Turner]

Well, since you can access the Internet from both
machines, you know the network is working--and this
probably also confirms that TCP/IP is installed on each
machine, IP is working, and that the machines are on the
same sub-net.

You need to bear in mind that Microsoft networking
requires some form of name resolution to be able to show
computers in My Network Places. Does your router support
DHCP, and is this how you are configuring the local
computers, or are you manually assigning IP addresses?
If manual, make sure you have both computers on the same
sub-net (if you don't understand that, do "ipcofing /all

c:\ipconfig.txt" on the XP machine, and winipcfg on the

98 machine, and send us the IP info for both machines).

You can also add the system names and IP addresses in
the "\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts" file (on the XP
side anyway) to assist with name resolution. I don't
remember, off-hand, where this file is on 98--search for
hosts.sam, and save the file as hosts.

And don't rely on My Network Places to gauge whether the
network is working or not. Do you have file and print
services installed and enabled? Are you actually sharing
folders or printers?

If so, on one computer go to Start | Run, and enter (in a
UNC format) \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, where the 'xxx's are the
IP address of the other computer. You should get a
window that pops up showing all the shared resources on
the other computer. My experience is that you'll have a
lot more luck connecting from the XP side to the 98 side,
rather than the other way around.

Let us know how it works out.

Thanks, Jack

-----Original Message-----
Our new TV has a connection for use as a computer

monitor so I bought a new computer. I moved the old
Gateway computer with Windows 98 to the living room and
the new Gateway computer with Windows XP Home in the our
home office where the old computer used to reside. I had
to buy and install a wired fast ethernet 10/100 network
card in the old computer. The new computer aleady has a
network card. I also bought a 4-port router to hook it
all up. All the connections on the router are ethernet. I
connected my cable modem into the router at the internet
port and each computer to the router's LAN ports using
ethernet cables. I used port 1 for the Windows 98 living
room computer and port 3 for the Windows XP office
computer. At first, I couldn't get anything to work. I
could not even connect to the internet. I called my
internet provider and straightened out my internet
connection but I still have no network. I can connect to
the internet on both computers now but neither computer
shows the other computer on the network. I've tried
almost everything for a couple of weeks and I still have
no network. Is this an impossible task? I'm turning blue
in the face!

 

[Guest]

Thanks guys. Here's the data from the office XP computer
Windows IP Configuratio
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Offic
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : cebridge.ne
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcas
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Ye
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Ye
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : cebridge.ne

Ethernet adapter Home Network

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : cebridge.ne
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connectio
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-07-E9-50-9D-6
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Ye
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Ye
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::207:e9ff:fe50:9d6e%
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.223.8.7
208.223.8.7
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, April 09, 2004 12:29:14 P
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, April 12, 2004 12:29:14 P

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : cebridge.ne
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interfac
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-6
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : N
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.101%
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disable

Here's the data on the Family Windows 98 computer in the living room

Host Informatio

Host Name FAMILY.Cebridge.netDES
DNS Services 208.223.8.7
Node type Broadcas
NetBIOS Scope Id __________
IP Routing Enabled[
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS[
WINS Proxy Enabled [

IP Configuratio

Ethernet Apapter Informatio

PPP Adapter Network Everywhere Ethernet Adapte
Adapter Address 44-45-53-54-00-00 00-0C-41-E4-BD-F
IP Address 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.10
Subnet Mask 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.
Default Gateway 192.168.1.
DHCP Server 192.168.1.
Primary WINS Server 255.255.255.25
Secondary WINS Serve
Lease Obtained 04 09 04 4:23:23 P
Lease Expires 04 12 04 4:23:23 P

My Router does support DHCP and the Office XP computer is configured to assign IP address automatically. I don't know if file and print services are installed and enabled and I am not able to share files or printers at this time

I tried a few other things but it didn't help

Thanks again

Tommychic

 

[Chuck]

On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:26:03 -0700, "Tommychick"

My Router does support DHCP and the Office XP computer is configured to assign IP address automatically. I don't know if file and print services are installed and enabled and I am not able to share files or printers at this time.

I tried a few other things but it didn't help.

Thanks again.

Tommychick

Tommychick,

Are you running both Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer Sharing
for Microsoft Networks (Network Connections - Local Area Connection -
Properties), on both computers? Do you have shares setup on both?

Make sure the browser service is running on both computers. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser service is
started.

From each computer:
1) Ping the other by name.
2) Ping the other by ip address.
3) Ping itself by name.
4) Ping itself by ip address.
5) Ping 127.0.0.1.
6) Ping 192.168.1.1 (router).
Report success / failure of each of 12 pings.

You have IPV6 installed on Office computer. Remove it. Then enable NetBIOS Over
TCP/IP (Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP - Properties - Advanced -
WINS).


Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Chuck
I've only had time to do all the things you described on the office XP computer so far. Here are the results
Both Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks are running
The browser service is running and started
1) Ping the other by name. (family) Results: "Ping request could not find host family. Please check the name and try again.
2) Ping the other by ip address. Results: succes
3) Ping itself by name. Results: succes
4) Ping itself by ip address. Results:succes
5) Ping 127.0.0.1. Results:success
6) Ping 192.168.1.1 (router). Results: succes

IPV6 installed on Office computer has been removed
NetBIOS over TCP/IP has been enabled

I'll send the results of the family 98 computer as soon as possible
Thanks again
(I think we're making progress. I can feel it!

Tommychic