Need to COMPLETELY disable Windows firewall

[Steve N.]

I don't mean simply turn it off, I need to completely obliterate it and
everything it and any other network stupidity SP2 did to my machine. I
need to have SP2 in order to support my users properly.

Since installing SP2 mapped drives on Netware servers do not reconnect
at startup and when I try to reconnect or browse to them manually I am
denied access and then told the network name cannot be found, example:

"\\Nwpths1\APPS is not accessible. You might not have permissions to use
this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find
out if you have access permissions.

The network name cannot be found."

I _AM_ the administrator of the server. I can login manually browsing
through the NDS tree. Another anomoly is even when I locate a server
object in the tree opening it shows it as empty and I am not
authenticated to it. Yet another is that in Netware Services, Netware
Server I only see servers I am attached to instead of all NW servers on
the wire like in pre-SP2.

Another net-admin told me there are some registry items that need to be
changed to correct this but couldn't remember them. I have changed a
couple of things concerning the firewall (override firewall and override
a/v) but they have had no effect at all. My a/v is set to not scan
network drives.

Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Steve

 

[Sandman]

Certainly, my comments won't help you (so why am I posting) and while I am
sure Microsoft hoped XPs SP2 would quiet a lot of grumbling about security,
it also added a bunch of additonal problems that come-up on this forum
every day. Befuddled and anxious people with many issues with stuff that
used to work and now does not. Despite what advocates of SP2 say, it has
caused much grief, perhaps because people didn't prepare properly for its'
install (as the MVPs would suggest) or simply because it is just another
patch for a patch for a patch. I wish i trusted this more, but until some of
the bugs get worked out of the 'patch', (if they do) the install CD with SP2
on it will remain in my drawer, not installed; a gift from Microsoft.

 

[Steve N.]

Certainly, my comments won't help you (so why am I posting) and while I am
sure Microsoft hoped XPs SP2 would quiet a lot of grumbling about security,
it also added a bunch of additonal problems that come-up on this forum
every day. Befuddled and anxious people with many issues with stuff that
used to work and now does not. Despite what advocates of SP2 say, it has
caused much grief, perhaps because people didn't prepare properly for its'
install (as the MVPs would suggest) or simply because it is just another
patch for a patch for a patch. I wish i trusted this more, but until some of
the bugs get worked out of the 'patch', (if they do) the install CD with SP2
on it will remain in my drawer, not installed; a gift from Microsoft.

You're right, not much help, but thanks for the commiseration anyway.

It is a widely known fact among Netware admins that Micro$oft has always
done its best to thwart Netware connectivity in Windows. They did a much
better job of it with XP and especially with SP2.

Oh, and BTW, I did a very thorough job of preparing the machine for SP2
and it still sh!t the bed first time around but that is in another post
("SP2 install fails due to incorrect system filename").

Steve

 

[Alias]

Certainly, my comments won't help you (so why am I posting) and while I am
sure Microsoft hoped XPs SP2 would quiet a lot of grumbling about
security,
it also added a bunch of additonal problems that come-up on this forum
every day. Befuddled and anxious people with many issues with stuff that
used to work and now does not. Despite what advocates of SP2 say, it has
caused much grief, perhaps because people didn't prepare properly for its'
install (as the MVPs would suggest) or simply because it is just another
patch for a patch for a patch. I wish i trusted this more, but until some
of
the bugs get worked out of the 'patch', (if they do) the install CD with
SP2
on it will remain in my drawer, not installed; a gift from Microsoft.

LOL! So, I guess that will show Microsoft, won't it?

Btw, it's not a "patch" but a service pack. Without it, your computer is
doomed, my friend.

Alias

 

[Steve N.]

LOL! So, I guess that will show Microsoft, won't it?

Btw, it's not a "patch" but a service pack. Without it, your computer is
doomed, my friend.

Alias

Hogwash.

Steve

 

[Alias]

Hogwash.

Steve

Really? And your qualifications for making this profound statement are?

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

I don't mean simply turn it off, I need to completely obliterate it
and everything it and any other network stupidity SP2 did to my
machine. I need to have SP2 in order to support my users properly.

Since installing SP2 mapped drives on Netware servers do not reconnect
at startup and when I try to reconnect or browse to them manually I am
denied access and then told the network name cannot be found, example:

"\\Nwpths1\APPS is not accessible. You might not have permissions to
use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to
find out if you have access permissions.

The network name cannot be found."

I _AM_ the administrator of the server. I can login manually browsing
through the NDS tree. Another anomoly is even when I locate a server
object in the tree opening it shows it as empty and I am not
authenticated to it. Yet another is that in Netware Services, Netware
Server I only see servers I am attached to instead of all NW servers
on the wire like in pre-SP2.

Another net-admin told me there are some registry items that need to
be changed to correct this but couldn't remember them. I have changed
a couple of things concerning the firewall (override firewall and
override a/v) but they have had no effect at all. My a/v is set to
not scan network drives.

Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Steve

Try disabling the "Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)"
service.

And check out:

http://www.utexas.edu/its/windows/resources/disable-wfw.html

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[Sandman]

You can call it what you will... It is a 'patch' , a band aid for something
that cannot be fixed.. My PC is hardly 'doomed' if I don't install it and I
am not your friend.

 

[kurttrail]

Really? And your qualifications for making this profound statement
are?

And what are your qualifications for saying that a XP install without
SP2 is "doomed?"

I'm pretty sure I could run XP pre-SP1 with no patches at all, and not
"doom" my computer to anything.

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[Alias]

You can call it what you will... It is a 'patch' , a band aid for
something
that cannot be fixed.. My PC is hardly 'doomed' if I don't install it and
I
am not your friend.

Touchy, touchy. No, you're not my friend but you ARE wrong. With over 5
million lines of code changed in SP2, it is not a patch. Your computer is
now wide open. Have fun fighting the beasties that land on your doomed
computer.

Alias

 

[Alias]

And what are your qualifications for saying that a XP install without SP2
is "doomed?"

Having worked on many computers that didn't have SP 2. Good enough?

I'm pretty sure I could run XP pre-SP1 with no patches at all, and not
"doom" my computer to anything.

Are you? If not, why not?

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Touchy, touchy. No, you're not my friend but you ARE wrong. With over
5 million lines of code changed in SP2, it is not a patch. Your
computer is now wide open. Have fun fighting the beasties that land
on your doomed computer.

Fear mongering for MS, Alias?

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[Steve N.]

Really?

Yes, really.

And your qualifications for making this profound statement are?

Alias

Running Windows XP successfully on 100s of PCs _without_ SP2.

And YOUR qualifications for making such "doomed" predicitions are?

Steve

 

[Guest]

Maybe try some standard troubleshooting such as Safe Mode with Networking and
maybe some ping tests. You would be suprised how far it goes.
Also, check the permissions on the shares...might be something amuck there
as well.
Try the local security policy as well to see if there are any users or
groups denied access.

Personally I think the Firewall is great if managed properly.

Perhaps also you may want to try some Professional avenues to support your
peers as this is this particular newsgroup is usually considered personal or
consumer support.

 

[kurttrail]

Having worked on many computers that didn't have SP 2. Good enough?

LOL! SP2 is no cureall. MS is coming out with another boatload of
patches for it on Tuesday.

Are you? If not, why not?

No, but I do have many of the security enhancements of SP2 disabled,
like DEP, and the Windows Firewall, so I'm not really running the full
blown SP2 install either.


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[Steve N.]

Try disabling the "Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)"
service.

And check out:

http://www.utexas.edu/its/windows/resources/disable-wfw.html

Thanks Kurt, but it made no difference. I already did the things listed
in the link, too.

Steve

 

[Sandman]

O.K....It is not a patch... it is rather, a HUMONGOUS patch...And since not
using IE any longer and further installing a hardware firewall/router, I am
happily experiencing many fewer 'beasties'.... I still consider XP
Professional the best OS Redmond has issued, ever, ....it is still
unfortunatley compromised by idiots who wanna hack it, and no software
Company can prevent everything . At some point I may have to install SP2 and
pray, but for now, i prefer the relative stability of the build I am using,
without voluntarily allowing SP2 to muck-it up.
Now, Alias, go put on your Microsoft t-shirt and march around the room
singing Bills Song!

 

[Steve N.]

Maybe try some standard troubleshooting such as Safe Mode with Networking and
maybe some ping tests. You would be suprised how far it goes.

The Novell client does not load all its modules in Safe Mode with
Networking so this will do no good. Ping tests are not relevant. I can
authenticate to the servers if I go through the NDS tree to do so, as I
already stated.

Also, check the permissions on the shares...might be something amuck there
as well.

Nothing to look at. As I stated I _am_ the admin of all our netware
servers, as such I have full and complete permisions to any and
everything housed on them. I can get to the volumes and shares, just not
in the normal way.

Try the local security policy as well to see if there are any users or
groups denied access.

The problem came into play directly as a result of SP2. If SP2 is
changing local security policies that really sucks.

Personally I think the Firewall is great if managed properly.

It's nothing compared to several (and free) 3rd party firewalls, but
you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

Perhaps also you may want to try some Professional avenues to support your
peers as this is this particular newsgroup is usually considered personal or
consumer support.

I don't agree on that. This is a peer suppport group and many of my
professional peers are here.

Thanks for your input though Ron. I appreciate it.

Steve

 

[Sandman]

Sorry, I should have know with your considerable responsibilities with all

 

[Steve N.]

Sorry, I should have know with your considerable responsibilities with all

No problem, no apology needed. Thanks for your comments.

Steve