Need help with previous thread

R

Rainy

system just recoered from a serious error

Gerry is trying very hard to help me. Gerry I really appreciate this, . but
I don't think he is getting all his email. I have responded to all of his
questions.. as a matter of fact I have responded 10 times.. One of his
requests I didn't understand but corrected my answer as soon as I realized.
He keeps asking me the same thing over and over again.. because he feels I
have not responded or answered.. I am guessing. Can someone please jump
into the thread.. I know this is not right to do.. but I am at my wits end!
So I didn't know what else to do.. Rainy

Here is the error

Event Type: Error
Event Source: System Error
Event Category: (102)
Event ID: 1003
Date: 4/23/2009
Time: 3:09:08 PM
User: N/A
Computer: RAINYSCOMPUTER
Description:
Error code 0000000a, parameter1 0000ff94, parameter2 00000002, parameter3
00000000, parameter4 804fd672.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 20 45 System E
0008: 72 72 6f 72 20 20 45 72 rror Er
0010: 72 6f 72 20 63 6f 64 65 ror code
0018: 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000
0020: 61 20 20 50 61 72 61 6d a Param
0028: 65 74 65 72 73 20 30 30 eters 00
0030: 30 30 66 66 39 34 2c 20 00ff94,
0038: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 32 00000002
0040: 2c 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 , 000000
0048: 30 30 2c 20 38 30 34 66 00, 804f
0050: 64 36 37 32 d672

Here is the error right befor this in event viewer

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7036
Date: 4/23/2009
Time: 3:09:19 PM
User: N/A
Computer: RAINYSCOMPUTER
Description:
The Telephony service entered the running state.

Here is the error right after the main one


Event Type: Information
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7036
Date: 4/23/2009
Time: 3:08:54 PM
User: N/A
Computer: PATSCOMPUTER
Description:
The iPod Service service entered the running state.
 
D

DL

Since youve started a new thread, ive responded here having briefly read the
other.

Simple questions;
Does this error occur an every reboot?
Can you boot successfuly into safe mode?
 
D

Daave

Rainy said:
system just recoered from a serious error

Gerry is trying very hard to help me. Gerry I really appreciate this,
. but I don't think he is getting all his email. I have responded to
all of his questions.. as a matter of fact I have responded 10
times.. One of his requests I didn't understand but corrected my
answer as soon as I realized. He keeps asking me the same thing over
and over again.. because he feels I have not responded or answered..
I am guessing. Can someone please jump into the thread.. I know
this is not right to do.. but I am at my wits end! So I didn't know
what else to do.. Rainy

Here is the error

Event Type: Error
Event Source: System Error
Event Category: (102)
Event ID: 1003
Date: 4/23/2009
Time: 3:09:08 PM
User: N/A
Computer: RAINYSCOMPUTER
Description:
Error code 0000000a, parameter1 0000ff94, parameter2 00000002,
parameter3 00000000, parameter4 804fd672.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 20 45 System E
0008: 72 72 6f 72 20 20 45 72 rror Er
0010: 72 6f 72 20 63 6f 64 65 ror code
0018: 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000
0020: 61 20 20 50 61 72 61 6d a Param
0028: 65 74 65 72 73 20 30 30 eters 00
0030: 30 30 66 66 39 34 2c 20 00ff94,
0038: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 32 00000002
0040: 2c 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 , 000000
0048: 30 30 2c 20 38 30 34 66 00, 804f
0050: 64 36 37 32 d672

From http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314063&sd=RMVP

"If you receive the "Stop: 0x0000000A" error message after Windows XP is
already installed, recently added third-party software or hardware may
be causing the error."

Go to that page and scroll down to the "Error occurs after Windows XP is
already installed" section.
Here is the error right befor this in event viewer

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7036
Date: 4/23/2009
Time: 3:09:19 PM
User: N/A
Computer: RAINYSCOMPUTER
Description:
The Telephony service entered the running state.

That's not an error.
Here is the error right after the main one


Event Type: Information
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7036
Date: 4/23/2009
Time: 3:08:54 PM
User: N/A
Computer: PATSCOMPUTER
Description:
The iPod Service service entered the running state.

That's not an error, either.

It looks like you have two computers. What versions of XP and Service
Pack levels are you running on them? What specific problems are you
having with them? Hardware issues? If so, have you performed any
hardware diagnostics? How long have you had these problems? Do you
recall doing anything in particular right before you started
experiencing these problems? What is the malware status of these PCs? Is
there any recently installed software or hardware? How frequently do you
get errors?

You stated in your other thread that you saw the following message:

"system just recoered from a serious error"

Do you constantly get this message, or was it just a one-time only
occurence? (At least it looks like your keyboard is working again. :) )
 
R

Rainy

Hi DL, no there are days between the critical error.. only two now.. I am
not even on the computer when this happens.. Yes I can boot successfully
into safemode.. thanks for responding.. hugs rainy ps leave my computer on
all the time.. I know there is a difference of opinion about this.. but the
tech who built my computer does this so I just did what he does..
Since youve started a new thread, ive responded here having briefly read the
other.

Simple questions;
Does this error occur an every reboot?
Can you boot successfuly into safe mode?
 
T

Twayne

Since you started a new thread, any details of the "previous error" are
long gone unless one wants to search for the old thread and reassemble
it.
Apparentley it was a stop error and a blue screen:
-- Was that a one time thing or does it happen more than the once?
-- Did you install anything prior to the error happening?
-- What program/s were you running when it happened?

The last two Event Viewer outputs you showed here aren't errors; they
are verifications that those services successfully started.
The first one indicates a system error which might be a blue screen
but you need to say so. I think you gave the two below that one, where
it maybe should have been the two above it to get the ones following the
error.

It's not a good idea to converse with newsgroup participants via e-mail
unless you actually know who they are. By staying on the newsgroup
other people get to learn what's happening too, and to see the final
outcome. You'll find most people in newsgroups use phony addresses
anyway, as a protection against spam.

HTH

Twayne
 
R

Rainy

Windows XP Home OEM
SP3



Hi Daave, You are saying that the two "errors" I have posted are not
errors, there were no errors then before or after.. .I see now they are
information.
I am copying and pasting your comments here so I can respond to them

Not two computers.. Rainy is not my real name it's my screen name, I forgot
to change the name on the second one.. oops! :)

The only hardware problemes I was having was my keyboard.. but my son gave
me his old one.. no other problems unless you count an ethernet card inboard
that stopped working, then showed up later, I bought a plug and play
ethernet card and disabled the inboard one..

I have had these two errors for a couple of weeks duration.
I was just in Device manager, and nothing shows up.. no exclamation points
... only that red x for the disabled inboard ethernet card...Is there a way
to disable it
in Bios? is that a good idea?

No I have not performed any hardware diagnostics.. not in the 2 weeks I have
received these errors (2)
No I am not on my computer when this happens.. so no I am not doing anything
in particular
Usually in my email.. Outlook Express just before
My computer is in good shape as far as checking for malware and virus.. I
update at least before I scan.. if not every day.. I also do my
maintenance on a daily basis. I'm obsessive about maintenance.. I have an
older computer that I take very good care of..

I don't know what third party software is? sorry!

My latest hardware is my new sound card, and a stick of ram.. 512mb to add
to the other two.. although I do not see any different with the
added ram.. total is 1.5*gigs.. I am heavy into graphics.. that's why I
need an extra amount.. I have only three slots so more will be coming.. lol

Is there a way to test the ram? I bought it from Crucial .. I think they
are reliable..

hugs Rainy ps can you please respond at the top.. doing it this way is
difficult to read...or respond to.. I hope I got everything..as you can see
I try really hard to respond

It looks like you have two computers. What versions of XP and Service
Pack levels are you running on them? What specific problems are you
having with them? Hardware issues? If so, have you performed any
hardware diagnostics? How long have you had these problems? Do you
recall doing anything in particular right before you started
experiencing these problems? What is the malware status of these PCs? Is
there any recently installed software or hardware? How frequently do you
get errors?

You stated in your other thread that you saw the following message:

"system just recoered from a serious error"

Do you constantly get this message, or was it just a one-time only
occurence? (At least it looks like your keyboard is working again. :) )

Rainy said:
system just recoered from a serious error

Gerry is trying very hard to help me. Gerry I really appreciate this,
. but I don't think he is getting all his email. I have responded to
all of his questions.. as a matter of fact I have responded 10
times.. One of his requests I didn't understand but corrected my
answer as soon as I realized. He keeps asking me the same thing over
and over again.. because he feels I have not responded or answered..
I am guessing. Can someone please jump into the thread.. I know
this is not right to do.. but I am at my wits end! So I didn't know
what else to do.. Rainy

Here is the error

Event Type: Error
Event Source: System Error
Event Category: (102)
Event ID: 1003
Date: 4/23/2009
Time: 3:09:08 PM
User: N/A
Computer: RAINYSCOMPUTER
Description:
Error code 0000000a, parameter1 0000ff94, parameter2 00000002,
parameter3 00000000, parameter4 804fd672.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 20 45 System E
0008: 72 72 6f 72 20 20 45 72 rror Er
0010: 72 6f 72 20 63 6f 64 65 ror code
0018: 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000
0020: 61 20 20 50 61 72 61 6d a Param
0028: 65 74 65 72 73 20 30 30 eters 00
0030: 30 30 66 66 39 34 2c 20 00ff94,
0038: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 32 00000002
0040: 2c 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 , 000000
0048: 30 30 2c 20 38 30 34 66 00, 804f
0050: 64 36 37 32 d672

From http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314063&sd=RMVP

"If you receive the "Stop: 0x0000000A" error message after Windows XP is
already installed, recently added third-party software or hardware may
be causing the error."

Go to that page and scroll down to the "Error occurs after Windows XP is
already installed" section.
Here is the error right befor this in event viewer

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7036
Date: 4/23/2009
Time: 3:09:19 PM
User: N/A
Computer: RAINYSCOMPUTER
Description:
The Telephony service entered the running state.

That's not an error.
Here is the error right after the main one


Event Type: Information
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7036
Date: 4/23/2009
Time: 3:08:54 PM
User: N/A
Computer: PATSCOMPUTER
Description:
The iPod Service service entered the running state.

That's not an error, either.

It looks like you have two computers. What versions of XP and Service
Pack levels are you running on them? What specific problems are you
having with them? Hardware issues? If so, have you performed any
hardware diagnostics? How long have you had these problems? Do you
recall doing anything in particular right before you started
experiencing these problems? What is the malware status of these PCs? Is
there any recently installed software or hardware? How frequently do you
get errors?

You stated in your other thread that you saw the following message:

"system just recoered from a serious error"

Do you constantly get this message, or was it just a one-time only
occurence? (At least it looks like your keyboard is working again. :) )
 
R

Rainy

Hi Twayne, I can see the thread with Gerry.. not sure why they are long
gone.. but I will try to answer again.
yes it was a stop error and a blue screen it happened twice

Yes I installed a sound card and a stick of ram
the programs that I was running and know about are sygate, incredimail, avg,
unlocker, and yahoo messenger I am sure there were plenty running in the
background but don't have a clue what they were..

I am confused..Why are you telling me only to converse in the newsgroup?
I never conversed with gerry via email... his email is not real so how
could I.. ?

Here is the error

Event Type: Error
Event Source: System Error
Event Category: (102)
Event ID: 1003
Date: 4/21/2009
Time: 3:30:48 AM
User: N/A
Computer: RAINYSCOMPUTER
Description:
Error code 0000000a, parameter1 ffffff94, parameter2 00000002, parameter3
00000000, parameter4 804fd672.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 20 45 System E
0008: 72 72 6f 72 20 20 45 72 rror Er
0010: 72 6f 72 20 63 6f 64 65 ror code
0018: 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000
0020: 61 20 20 50 61 72 61 6d a Param
0028: 65 74 65 72 73 20 66 66 eters ff
0030: 66 66 66 66 39 34 2c 20 ffff94,
0038: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 32 00000002
0040: 2c 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 , 000000
0048: 30 30 2c 20 38 30 34 66 00, 804f
0050: 64 36 37 32 d672

I got the BSOD... twice.. Rainy



Since you started a new thread, any details of the "previous error" are
long gone unless one wants to search for the old thread and reassemble
it.
Apparentley it was a stop error and a blue screen:
-- Was that a one time thing or does it happen more than the once?
-- Did you install anything prior to the error happening?
-- What program/s were you running when it happened?

The last two Event Viewer outputs you showed here aren't errors; they
are verifications that those services successfully started.
The first one indicates a system error which might be a blue screen
but you need to say so. I think you gave the two below that one, where
it maybe should have been the two above it to get the ones following the
error.

It's not a good idea to converse with newsgroup participants via e-mail
unless you actually know who they are. By staying on the newsgroup
other people get to learn what's happening too, and to see the final
outcome. You'll find most people in newsgroups use phony addresses
anyway, as a protection against spam.

HTH

Twayne
 
D

Daave

Rainy said:
Windows XP Home OEM
SP3

Got it.
Hi Daave, You are saying that the two "errors" I have posted are not
errors, there were no errors then before or after.. .I see now they
are information.
I am copying and pasting your comments here so I can respond to them

Not two computers.. Rainy is not my real name it's my screen name, I
forgot to change the name on the second one.. oops! :)

The only hardware problemes I was having was my keyboard.. but my son
gave me his old one.. no other problems unless you count an ethernet
card inboard that stopped working, then showed up later, I bought a
plug and play ethernet card and disabled the inboard one..

I have had these two errors for a couple of weeks duration.

So in two whole weeks, you only had two errors? I wouldn't worry about
it then.
I was just in Device manager, and nothing shows up.. no exclamation
points .. only that red x for the disabled inboard ethernet card...Is
there a way to disable it
in Bios? is that a good idea?

I wouldn't worry about it.
No I have not performed any hardware diagnostics.. not in the 2 weeks
I have received these errors (2)
No I am not on my computer when this happens.. so no I am not doing
anything in particular
Usually in my email.. Outlook Express just before
My computer is in good shape as far as checking for malware and
virus.. I update at least before I scan.. if not every day.. I also
do my maintenance on a daily basis. I'm obsessive about
maintenance.. I have an older computer that I take very good care of..

Although malware is not my first guess, you neglected to say what
antimalware programs you use. Besides, you have presented no evidence of
any problem! (Two errors in two weeks? Not a big deal IMO.)
I don't know what third party software is? sorry!

That would be any software you install (software that didn't come with
Windows XP).
My latest hardware is my new sound card, and a stick of ram.. 512mb
to add to the other two.. although I do not see any different with the
added ram.. total is 1.5*gigs.. I am heavy into graphics.. that's
why I need an extra amount.. I have only three slots so more will be
coming.. lol

Is there a way to test the ram? I bought it from Crucial .. I think
they are reliable..

One way is to use Windows Memory Diagnostic:

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
hugs Rainy ps can you please respond at the top.. doing it this way
is difficult to read...or respond to.. I hope I got everything..as
you can see I try really hard to respond

Actually, I was going to ask you if you could post inline like I am.
Top-posting is problematic for a number of reasons. It may be easier to
write, but it's very difficult to read. For instance, when I read one of
your answers, I need to scroll to another point in the post to find out
what the question is. Keep in mind others are following the thread, too!
They might be able to offer you great advice, but if it's hard for them
to understand the context, they might not be able to offer you that
insight into a potentially very important point. I'm aware that others
in this newsgroup favor top-posting. That doesn't mean it's the best
way. If you're using Outlook Express (as I am), inline responses are
very easy, so I'm not sure why you would have difficulty with it.

Also, you apparently have caused confusion by referring to Gerry's posts
as e-mails. That's why the others wrote what they did! Although OE may
be used for both newsgroups and e-mail, there's a big difference between
a newsgroup post and an e-mail! And I'll bet if Gerry didn't top-post,
he would have stopped asking the same questions repeatedly! When you
reply inline, it shows you are carefully reading and digesting what the
other person has posted.
 
R

Rainy

Ok I am posting inline :)

Daave said:
Windows XP Home OEM
SP3

Got it.
Hi Daave, You are saying that the two "errors" I have posted are not
errors, there were no errors then before or after.. .I see now they
are information.
I am copying and pasting your comments here so I can respond to them

Not two computers.. Rainy is not my real name it's my screen name, I
forgot to change the name on the second one.. oops! :)

The only hardware problemes I was having was my keyboard.. but my son
gave me his old one.. no other problems unless you count an ethernet
card inboard that stopped working, then showed up later, I bought a
plug and play ethernet card and disabled the inboard one..

I have had these two errors for a couple of weeks duration.

So in two whole weeks, you only had two errors? I wouldn't worry about
it then. well ok then! :) lol
I was just in Device manager, and nothing shows up.. no exclamation
points .. only that red x for the disabled inboard ethernet card...Is
there a way to disable it
in Bios? is that a good idea?

I wouldn't worry about it.LOL but you didn't say if it was a good idea or not.. I had a multimedia audio controller that was part of the motherboard that didn't seem to want to go away.. every time I booted, the add new hardware thing would come up and look for the driver.. so I disabled it in bios because it didn't belong to the new sound card. .. I had to.. because I was repairing the OS and it was giving me errors.. once I did that no problems. Now granted, the ethernet adapter inboard is not causing me any problems so I guess I should not worry about it.. LOL
No I have not performed any hardware diagnostics.. not in the 2 weeks
I have received these errors (2)
No I am not on my computer when this happens.. so no I am not doing
anything in particular
Usually in my email.. Outlook Express just before
My computer is in good shape as far as checking for malware and
virus.. I update at least before I scan.. if not every day.. I also
do my maintenance on a daily basis. I'm obsessive about
maintenance.. I have an older computer that I take very good care of..

Although malware is not my first guess, you neglected to say what
antimalware programs you use. Besides, you have presented no evidence of
any problem! (Two errors in two weeks? Not a big deal IMO.)

I use ad-aware se, and asquared and spybot S & D Not all the time but just recently)

I don't know what third party software is? sorry!

That would be any software you install (software that didn't come with
Windows XP). OK.. I see. not since or right before the errors.
My latest hardware is my new sound card, and a stick of ram.. 512mb
to add to the other two.. although I do not see any different with the
added ram.. total is 1.5*gigs.. I am heavy into graphics.. that's
why I need an extra amount.. I have only three slots so more will be
coming.. lol

Is there a way to test the ram? I bought it from Crucial .. I think
they are reliable..

One way is to use Windows Memory Diagnostic:

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
I downloaded the file and created an image for a cd.. I don't have any floppies.. so it plopped a rar in my documents.. which has i386 on it and inside of that.. is windiag.. so what do I do with it.. :) do I click on it? lol I know i sound stupid.. :)
hugs Rainy ps can you please respond at the top.. doing it this way
is difficult to read...or respond to.. I hope I got everything..as
you can see I try really hard to respond

Actually, I was going to ask you if you could post inline like I am.
Top-posting is problematic for a number of reasons. It may be easier to
write, but it's very difficult to read. For instance, when I read one of
your answers, I need to scroll to another point in the post to find out
what the question is. Keep in mind others are following the thread, too!
They might be able to offer you great advice, but if it's hard for them
to understand the context, they might not be able to offer you that
insight into a potentially very important point. I'm aware that others
in this newsgroup favor top-posting. That doesn't mean it's the best
way. If you're using Outlook Express (as I am), inline responses are
very easy, so I'm not sure why you would have difficulty with it.

Also, you apparently have caused confusion by referring to Gerry's posts
as e-mails. That's why the others wrote what they did! Although OE may
be used for both newsgroups and e-mail, there's a big difference between
a newsgroup post and an e-mail! And I'll bet if Gerry didn't top-post,
he would have stopped asking the same questions repeatedly! When you
reply inline, it shows you are carefully reading and digesting what the
other person has posted.
 
R

Rainy

there weren't any... hugs rainy
Check in Event Viewer for errors that are immediate prior to the BSD
 
R

Rainy

Rainy said:
Windows XP Home OEM
SP3

Got it.
Hi Daave, You are saying that the two "errors" I have posted are not
errors, there were no errors then before or after.. .I see now they
are information.
I am copying and pasting your comments here so I can respond to them

Not two computers.. Rainy is not my real name it's my screen name, I
forgot to change the name on the second one.. oops! :)

The only hardware problemes I was having was my keyboard.. but my son
gave me his old one.. no other problems unless you count an ethernet
card inboard that stopped working, then showed up later, I bought a
plug and play ethernet card and disabled the inboard one..

I have had these two errors for a couple of weeks duration.

So in two whole weeks, you only had two errors? I wouldn't worry about
it then.
I was just in Device manager, and nothing shows up.. no exclamation
points .. only that red x for the disabled inboard ethernet card...Is
there a way to disable it
in Bios? is that a good idea?

I wouldn't worry about it.
No I have not performed any hardware diagnostics.. not in the 2 weeks
I have received these errors (2)
No I am not on my computer when this happens.. so no I am not doing
anything in particular
Usually in my email.. Outlook Express just before
My computer is in good shape as far as checking for malware and
virus.. I update at least before I scan.. if not every day.. I also
do my maintenance on a daily basis. I'm obsessive about
maintenance.. I have an older computer that I take very good care of..

Although malware is not my first guess, you neglected to say what
antimalware programs you use. Besides, you have presented no evidence of
any problem! (Two errors in two weeks? Not a big deal IMO.)
I don't know what third party software is? sorry!

That would be any software you install (software that didn't come with
Windows XP).
My latest hardware is my new sound card, and a stick of ram.. 512mb
to add to the other two.. although I do not see any different with the
added ram.. total is 1.5*gigs.. I am heavy into graphics.. that's
why I need an extra amount.. I have only three slots so more will be
coming.. lol

Is there a way to test the ram? I bought it from Crucial .. I think
they are reliable..

One way is to use Windows Memory Diagnostic:

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

I am assuming that I burn the windiag file to cd.. change the boot order so
the windiag will boot.. and let it do its thing.. is that right? hugs Raiy
hugs Rainy ps can you please respond at the top.. doing it this way
is difficult to read...or respond to.. I hope I got everything..as
you can see I try really hard to respond

Actually, I was going to ask you if you could post inline like I am.
Top-posting is problematic for a number of reasons. It may be easier to
write, but it's very difficult to read. For instance, when I read one of
your answers, I need to scroll to another point in the post to find out
what the question is. Keep in mind others are following the thread, too!
They might be able to offer you great advice, but if it's hard for them
to understand the context, they might not be able to offer you that
insight into a potentially very important point. I'm aware that others
in this newsgroup favor top-posting. That doesn't mean it's the best
way. If you're using Outlook Express (as I am), inline responses are
very easy, so I'm not sure why you would have difficulty with it.

Also, you apparently have caused confusion by referring to Gerry's posts
as e-mails. That's why the others wrote what they did! Although OE may
be used for both newsgroups and e-mail, there's a big difference between
a newsgroup post and an e-mail! And I'll bet if Gerry didn't top-post,
he would have stopped asking the same questions repeatedly! When you
reply inline, it shows you are carefully reading and digesting what the
other person has posted.
 
D

Daave

Rainy said:
Ok I am posting inline :)

Thanks, It's much easier to respond to your points one by one this way.
:)

Now, I'll be picky again. Please post using plain text. Rich text (HTML)
is not needed, and it actually can be confusing. For instance, the lines
of your posts should show up with one of these:
Ok I am posting inline :)

But when you don't post in plain text, attributions don't work out the
same way. Scroll down and you will see my content from two posts ago
also have one ">" mark. But they should have *two* of these marks!

Furthermore, depending on the news client people use, rich text can show
up as gobbledygook.

And although I won't be doing it this post, I normally like to snip away
impertinent parts of other posts, to make it as streamlined as possible.
If you post in Plain Text, that will make it *much* easier for me and
others to do this.
Got it.


So in two whole weeks, you only had two errors? I wouldn't worry about
it then. well ok then! :) lol

You see? You're "well ok then! :) lol" looks like it's part of my words!

Yes, I think you really don't have anything to be concerned about.
I wouldn't worry about it.LOL but you didn't say if it was a good
idea or not.. I had a multimedia audio controller that was part of
the motherboard that didn't seem to want to go away.. every time I
booted, the add new hardware thing would come up and look for the
driver.. so I disabled it in bios because it didn't belong to the new
sound card. .. I had to.. because I was repairing the OS and it was
giving me errors.. once I did that no problems. Now granted, the
ethernet adapter inboard is not causing me any problems so I guess I
should not worry about it.. LOL

I think it's a good idea not to worry about it. :)
Although malware is not my first guess, you neglected to say what
antimalware programs you use. Besides, you have presented no evidence
of
any problem! (Two errors in two weeks? Not a big deal IMO.)

I use ad-aware se, and asquared and spybot S & D Not all the time
but just recently)

All good, but there are no antivirus programs in the mix! You definitely
need one!
That would be any software you install (software that didn't come with
Windows XP). OK.. I see. not since or right before the errors.


One way is to use Windows Memory Diagnostic:

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
I downloaded the file and created an image for a cd.. I don't have
any floppies.. so it plopped a rar in my documents.. which has i386
on it and inside of that.. is windiag.. so what do I do with it.. :)
do I click on it? lol I know i sound stupid.. :)

Instead of burning the .iso file to a CD, you need to create a bootable
CD *from* the .iso file. Most CD burning programs (e.g., Nero,
CDBurnerXP, ImgBurn) can do this.
 
G

Gerry

Are you confused yet Daave <g>? I missed the changed Computer name! Nice
catch <ebg>.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
R

Rainy

Rainy said:
Ok I am posting inline :)

Thanks, It's much easier to respond to your points one by one this way.
:)

Now, I'll be picky again. Please post using plain text. Rich text (HTML)
is not needed, and it actually can be confusing. For instance, the lines
of your posts should show up with one of these:
Ok I am posting inline :)

But when you don't post in plain text, attributions don't work out the
same way. Scroll down and you will see my content from two posts ago
also have one ">" mark. But they should have *two* of these marks!

Furthermore, depending on the news client people use, rich text can show
up as gobbledygook.

And although I won't be doing it this post, I normally like to snip away
impertinent parts of other posts, to make it as streamlined as possible.
If you post in Plain Text, that will make it *much* easier for me and
others to do this.
Got it.


So in two whole weeks, you only had two errors? I wouldn't worry about
it then. well ok then! :) lol

You see? You're "well ok then! :) lol" looks like it's part of my words!
That's beause you insist on inline.. :)

Yes, I think you really don't have anything to be concerned about.
Ok then
I wouldn't worry about it.LOL but you didn't say if it was a good
idea or not.. I had a multimedia audio controller that was part of
the motherboard that didn't seem to want to go away.. every time I
booted, the add new hardware thing would come up and look for the
driver.. so I disabled it in bios because it didn't belong to the new
sound card. .. I had to.. because I was repairing the OS and it was
giving me errors.. once I did that no problems. Now granted, the
ethernet adapter inboard is not causing me any problems so I guess I
should not worry about it.. LOL

I think it's a good idea not to worry about it. :)
Although malware is not my first guess, you neglected to say what
antimalware programs you use. Besides, you have presented no evidence
of
any problem! (Two errors in two weeks? Not a big deal IMO.)

I use ad-aware se, and asquared and spybot S & D Not all the time
but just recently)

All good, but there are no antivirus programs in the mix! You definitely
need one!

I use AVG 8.5 free
That would be any software you install (software that didn't come with
Windows XP). OK.. I see. not since or right before the errors.


One way is to use Windows Memory Diagnostic:

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
I downloaded the file and created an image for a cd.. I don't have
any floppies.. so it plopped a rar in my documents.. which has i386
on it and inside of that.. is windiag.. so what do I do with it.. :)
do I click on it? lol I know i sound stupid.. :)

Instead of burning the .iso file to a CD, you need to create a bootable
CD *from* the .iso file. Most CD burning programs (e.g., Nero,
CDBurnerXP, ImgBurn) can do this.


Ok I will try this.. thanks for all the help.. not sure why those < are not
here.. I'm in plain text..
hugs Rainy
 
T

Twayne

Rainy said:
Hi Twayne, I can see the thread with Gerry.. not sure why they are
long gone.. but I will try to answer again.
yes it was a stop error and a blue screen it happened twice

Not a big deal; they don't show here because I have messages I've read
removed from the list. Otherwise there are too many to keep track of.
I also keep them listed by thread, just in case you care; that's not
important either, but still worth mentioning IMO.
Yes I installed a sound card and a stick of ram
the programs that I was running and know about are sygate,
incredimail, avg, unlocker, and yahoo messenger I am sure there were
plenty running in the background but don't have a clue what they
were..

Yeah, it was programs you were running yourself I asked about. Usually,
unless someone is running special programs, the background tasks are
fairly standard for purposes of the question so not important at that
point. Yahoo Messenger, for what it's worth, is less than "secure" and
often a way for malware (viruses, trojans, worms, spyware, etc.) to get
into your computer. If you use YM much, it would be a good idea to run
your update anti-virus program for a full scan, and a minimum of 3
anti-spyware programs, also updated of course. And run all Full scans,
not the abbreviated scans.
I'm not saying it IS malware causing your problem, but it is good to
know within as much certainty as can be gained that the problem isn't
due to malware. If nothing is found, then that's a great sign that you
probably have either a hardware problem someplace or file corruption.
If it get to be too bothersome, it might come down to having to do a
backup of your important data and then reinstall everything from
scracth. Or a disk image if you have one or more you can try.
I am confused..Why are you telling me only to converse in the
newsgroup?
I never conversed with gerry via email... his email is not real so how
could I.. ?

Hmm, sorry about that; something you said made me think you had sent him
ten mails and he never responded. Normally on a newsgroup they're
called posts, not mails or emails. I'm relying on my memory here; looks
like just a misread/misspeak somewhere.
I noticed you've used pcbanter.net too, so that might have something
to do with the disconnect between you and gerry. I as surprised to see
the long history of your posts.

In general:
If you've only had it happen twice, a couple of months apart, as I
think you said, and it hasn't happened since, then if it doesn't happen
again, you can probably forget about it. Usually that type of error
points to a hardware problem but in my experience to date I've always
found it boiled down to a software problem, usually with the operating
system, causing something to think the hardware is bad.

My advice at the moment, based on it only having happened twice and not
in close succession, would be to relax and go about your computing days
as normal. If/when it happens again, write down the data on the blue
screen and any text words, visit any links that may pop up, note what
errors are in the Event Viewer, and what you were doing just before it
happened. Assuming you were at the computer, of course. Try to match
up the information with previous information you've already collected in
order to determine whether it's the same cause or not.

It's extremely difficult to troubleshoot and pin down intermittant
problems. Even when you find errors in Event Viewer logs, there's no
real way to tell if the error was caused by the blue screen event or
something entirely different most of the time. So, always try to catch
the time the error happened too, so you can match it up to other error
events and when they occurred. If they're in close proximity, then you
may have found something relevant. If not within a few minutes of the
time though, it's likely going to be something else.
ARE your event viewer logs clean of errors? It makes troubleshooting
a lot easier if they are.

Assuming you get the blue screen event again, you could try:
Removing the Sound Card, hardware AND software, especially the
drivers.
Going back to your old RAM to see what happens.
If either stops the blue screens, then you at least know the
culprit. But it's hard to tell sometimes when it's something that's not
happening all the time. Intermittants are bitches to chase down.

Here's a relevant looking link to a discussion:
http://forum.aumha.org/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=34035&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

And these have some hints, too:
http://forum.soft32.com/windows/event-ID-1003-category-102-crashes-ftopict316071.html

http://www.howtofixcomputers.com/forums/windows-xp/blue-screen-event-1003-category-102-a-136031.html

Good luck,

Twayne

Here is the error

Event Type: Error
Event Source: System Error <-- Something in the operating system,
hardware of software.
Event Category: (102)

I THINK that 102 indicates a drive problem, usually SATA drives.
About as often, it seems to be driver related; can't tell if that means
disk drive drivers or other drivers though.
 
R

Rainy

Rainy said:
Hi Twayne, I can see the thread with Gerry.. not sure why they are
long gone.. but I will try to answer again.
yes it was a stop error and a blue screen it happened twice

Not a big deal; they don't show here because I have messages I've read
removed from the list. Otherwise there are too many to keep track of.
I also keep them listed by thread, just in case you care; that's not
important either, but still worth mentioning IMO.

I understand now why they are long gone..

Yes I installed a sound card and a stick of ram
the programs that I was running and know about are sygate,
incredimail, avg, unlocker, and yahoo messenger I am sure there were
plenty running in the background but don't have a clue what they
were..

Yeah, it was programs you were running yourself I asked about. Usually,
unless someone is running special programs, the background tasks are
fairly standard for purposes of the question so not important at that
point. Yahoo Messenger, for what it's worth, is less than "secure" and
often a way for malware (viruses, trojans, worms, spyware, etc.) to get
into your computer. If you use YM much, it would be a good idea to run
your update anti-virus program for a full scan, and a minimum of 3
anti-spyware programs, also updated of course. And run all Full scans,
not the abbreviated scans.

..I do the full scan every night with my AVG, I am not as thorough with
spybot or asquared or ad aware.. but manage to get to them every three or 4
days.
I don't think it's messenger since I have had a computer for 10 years... and
haven't
gotten this error before.using windows xp.. I remember getting it when I
was running 98



I'm not saying it IS malware causing your problem, but it is good to
know within as much certainty as can be gained that the problem isn't
due to malware. If nothing is found, then that's a great sign that you
probably have either a hardware problem someplace or file corruption.
If it get to be too bothersome, it might come down to having to do a
backup of your important data and then reinstall everything from
scracth. Or a disk image if you have one or more you can try.

I sure don't want to think about formatting!
I am confused..Why are you telling me only to converse in the
newsgroup?
I never conversed with gerry via email... his email is not real so how
could I.. ?

Hmm, sorry about that; something you said made me think you had sent him
ten mails and he never responded. Normally on a newsgroup they're
called posts, not mails or emails. I'm relying on my memory here; looks
like just a misread/misspeak somewhere.

Yes I think I am calling the emails sent to the newsgroup mail.. not posts..

I noticed you've used pcbanter.net too, so that might have something
to do with the disconnect between you and gerry. I as surprised to see
the long history of your posts.

I have no idea what pcbanter.net is.. and have never knowingly used it!
What is it?


In general:
If you've only had it happen twice, a couple of months apart, as I

No a couple of weeks apart

think you said, and it hasn't happened since, then if it doesn't happen
again, you can probably forget about it. Usually that type of error
points to a hardware problem but in my experience to date I've always
found it boiled down to a software problem, usually with the operating
system, causing something to think the hardware is bad.

IF the operating system thought the hardware was bad wouldn't there be some
indication
of it in Divice Manager?

My advice at the moment, based on it only having happened twice and not
in close succession, would be to relax and go about your computing days
as normal. If/when it happens again, write down the data on the blue
screen and any text words, visit any links that may pop up, note what
errors are in the Event Viewer, and what you were doing just before it
happened. Assuming you were at the computer, of course. Try to match
up the information with previous information you've already collected in
order to determine whether it's the same cause or not.

It's extremely difficult to troubleshoot and pin down intermittant
problems. Even when you find errors in Event Viewer logs, there's no
real way to tell if the error was caused by the blue screen event or
something entirely different most of the time. So, always try to catch
the time the error happened too, so you can match it up to other error
events and when they occurred. If they're in close proximity, then you
may have found something relevant. If not within a few minutes of the
time though, it's likely going to be something else.
ARE your event viewer logs clean of errors? It makes troubleshooting
a lot easier if they are.
yes I just cleared them..

Assuming you get the blue screen event again, you could try:
Removing the Sound Card, hardware AND software, especially the
drivers.
Going back to your old RAM to see what happens.
If either stops the blue screens, then you at least know the
culprit. But it's hard to tell sometimes when it's something that's not
happening all the time. Intermittants are bitches to chase down.

Yes I will
thanks for the input.. I will look at your links tomorrow.. Rainy
Here's a relevant looking link to a discussion:
http://forum.aumha.org/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=34035&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

And these have some hints, too:
http://forum.soft32.com/windows/event-ID-1003-category-102-crashes-ftopict316071.html

http://www.howtofixcomputers.com/forums/windows-xp/blue-screen-event-1003-category-102-a-136031.html

Good luck,

Twayne
Thanks, hugs rainy

Here is the error

Event Type: Error
Event Source: System Error <-- Something in the operating system,
hardware of software.
Event Category: (102)

I THINK that 102 indicates a drive problem, usually SATA drives.
About as often, it seems to be driver related; can't tell if that means
disk drive drivers or other drivers though.
 
D

Daave

Rainy said:
Rainy wrote:
You see? You're "well ok then! :) lol" looks like it's part of my
words! That's beause you insist on inline.. :)

LOL! Your posts *were* easier to read when they were disconnected and on
top!

Actually, inline doesn't mean in the *same* line. You need to insert a
blank line and *then* intersperse your lines. Still, the attribution
carats (or whatever they're called) are not working right. Maybe we can
fix that.

What are your settings in:

Tools | Options... | Send | News Sending Format | Plain Text Settings...

If Mime is selected, make sure "None" and not "Quoted Printable" is
selected in the nearby drop-down window. While you're there, 70 or 72 is
a good value for word wrap. FWIW, I don't even use Mime; I use Uuencode.
(I'm not sure there's a noticeable difference.)
All good, but there are no antivirus programs in the mix! You
definitely need one!

I use AVG 8.5 free

OK, then. That's good.
Instead of burning the .iso file to a CD, you need to create a
bootable
CD *from* the .iso file. Most CD burning programs (e.g., Nero,
CDBurnerXP, ImgBurn) can do this.


Ok I will try this.. thanks for all the help.. not sure why those <
are not here.. I'm in plain text..
hugs Rainy

YW, Rainy. How did you get that nickname? Hopefully the new settings
will result in a clean post. :)
 
R

Rainy

Rainy said:
Rainy wrote:
You see? You're "well ok then! :) lol" looks like it's part of my
words!

That's beause you insist on inline.. :)

LOL! Your posts *were* easier to read when they were disconnected and on
top!

Actually, inline doesn't mean in the *same* line. You need to insert a
blank line and *then* intersperse your lines. Still, the attribution
carats (or whatever they're called) are not working right. Maybe we can
fix that.

That's because there is another setting which allows you to remove those
indents.. I hate them
think they are messy :)

What are your settings in:

Tools | Options... | Send | News Sending Format | Plain Text Settings.

mine was.Uuencode and none.. but think 78 was wordwrap I changed it to 72.

If Mime is selected, make sure "None" and not "Quoted Printable" is
selected in the nearby drop-down window. While you're there, 70 or 72 is
a good value for word wrap. FWIW, I don't even use Mime; I use Uuencode.
(I'm not sure there's a noticeable difference.)
All good, but there are no antivirus programs in the mix! You
definitely need one!

I use AVG 8.5 free

OK, then. That's good.

I rarely use windows xp software, does anyone? lol

I also just bought a day ago a usb hub has 4 places to stick things.. :)
Instead of burning the .iso file to a CD, you need to create a
bootable
CD *from* the .iso file. Most CD burning programs (e.g., Nero,
CDBurnerXP, ImgBurn) can do this.

I tried to do it with Nero and downloaded imgburn and it may have made the
cd bootable..I will have to see

Ok I will try this.. thanks for all the help.. not sure why those <
are not here.. I'm in plain text..
hugs Rainy

YW, Rainy. How did you get that nickname? Hopefully the new settings
will result in a clean post. :)

I will be happy to tell you, just write to me.. I will not tell the story
here.. :) but don't mind telling you!

Hugs Rainy
 
D

Daave

Rainy said:
Rainy wrote:
Actually, inline doesn't mean in the *same* line. You need to insert a
blank line and *then* intersperse your lines. Still, the attribution
carats (or whatever they're called) are not working right. Maybe we
can fix that.

That's because there is another setting which allows you to remove
those indents.. I hate them
think they are messy :)

Ah ha!

Much messier when that box is unchecked! The purpose of inline posting
is to quickly pick up on the context. This includes who said what.
Looking at the above two paragraphs, it looks like *you* wrote them
both. Please check that "indent with > when replying" box! You will find
that the quality or replies to your posts will _greatly_ improve. The
incorrect attribututions may have even contributed to Gerry's
confusion. If so, I now understand.

Good luck to you. :)
 

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