Need help with Hit Counter

S

sha

Hi.

I'm using Frontpage 2000. I followed the directions to add the hit counter.
The website is published on a server with Frontpage extensions activated.
But when I go to the website, I still see the typed words "hit counter" in a
box, as if I'm viewing it from Frontpage instead of the internet.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
sha.
 
T

Trevor L.

I've always wondered just what the Hit Counter webbot does and whether one
can replace it with a custom DB.

I found this code in my index.html:
<td align="center">Hit Counter
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom i-image="4"
i-resetvalue="0" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-digits="0" -->
</td>

I can't recall whether I placed the hit counter inside a table cell or not

What does it do?
What program does it call?
Is there other code behind the scenes that FP sets up ?

I have the idea that it uses
_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/
and
_private/index.html.cnt

But where is _vti_bin ?
On the server, I guess, but it doesn't copy down when I reverse publish.

At least, I am sure that it uses _private/index.html.cnt.
This currently reads:
FPCountFile 00000000023
but if I copy it down, amend the number to 00000000000
and copy it back, the counter will reset

I would be interested in:
1. Details of how the hit counter works
2. Info on how to replace it with a custom counter
 
T

Tom Willett

If you look at the image properties, you see this:
http://members.cox.net/_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/C:/Documents and Settings/Sha/My%
which appears part of the link is pointing to your hard drive on your local
pc.


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Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
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| here is the link:
| http://members.cox.net/christredeemeracademy
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| thanks.
| sha.
|
|
|
| | > Hi.
| >
| > I'm using Frontpage 2000. I followed the directions to add the hit
| > counter. The website is published on a server with Frontpage extensions
| > activated. But when I go to the website, I still see the typed words
"hit
| > counter" in a box, as if I'm viewing it from Frontpage instead of the
| > internet.
| >
| > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
| >
| > Thanks.
| > sha.
| >
|
|
 
T

Trevor L.

Tom said:
If you look at the image properties, you see this:
http://members.cox.net/_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/C:/Documents and Settings/Sha/My%
which appears part of the link is pointing to your hard drive on your
local pc.

I found exactly the same when I reverse published "index.html "to my hard
disk

Your code in the server reads:
<p align="center">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom
i-digits="5" i-image="2" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit
Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-resetvalue="0" startspan -->
<img
src="../_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Sha/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/?Page=cra2/index.htm|Image=2|Digits=5"
alt="Hit Counter">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" endspan i-checksum="8950" -->
</p>

My disk copy reads (slightly different because I placed this in a table
cell):
<td align="center">Hit Counter
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom i-image="4"
i-resetvalue="0" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-digits="0" startspan -->
<img
src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Trevor/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/mvpweb/?Page=index.html|Image=4"
alt="Hit Counter">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-checksum="17034" endspan -->
</td>

It appears that you have managed to copy the hard disk file back to the
server

I think what you need (on the server) is:
<p align="center">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom
i-digits="5" i-image="2" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit
Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-resetvalue="0" -->
</p>

Well, that's more or less (with a few differences in the parameters) what I
have.

If anyone else knows whether this is correct or not, please post.
 
R

Ronx

My hit counter on my LAN server has the following code:

<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-image="4" I-ResetValue="0" I-Digits="5"
U-Custom startspan --><img
src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/tests/?Page=hidden-hit-counter.htm|Image=4|Digits=5"
alt="Hit Counter"><!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-checksum="41315" endspan
-->

The page is at
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/hidden-hit-counter.htm
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Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp



Tom said:
If you look at the image properties, you see this:
http://members.cox.net/_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/C:/Documents and Settings/Sha/My%
which appears part of the link is pointing to your hard drive on your
local pc.

I found exactly the same when I reverse published "index.html "to my hard
disk

Your code in the server reads:
<p align="center">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom
i-digits="5" i-image="2" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit
Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-resetvalue="0" startspan -->
<img
src="../_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Sha/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/?Page=cra2/index.htm|Image=2|Digits=5"
alt="Hit Counter">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" endspan i-checksum="8950" -->
</p>

My disk copy reads (slightly different because I placed this in a table
cell):
<td align="center">Hit Counter
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom i-image="4"
i-resetvalue="0" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-digits="0" startspan -->
<img
src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Trevor/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/mvpweb/?Page=index.html|Image=4"
alt="Hit Counter">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-checksum="17034" endspan -->
</td>

It appears that you have managed to copy the hard disk file back to the
server

I think what you need (on the server) is:
<p align="center">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom
i-digits="5" i-image="2" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit
Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-resetvalue="0" -->
</p>

Well, that's more or less (with a few differences in the parameters) what I
have.

If anyone else knows whether this is correct or not, please post.
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
 
T

Trevor L.

Ronx said:
My hit counter on my LAN server has the following code:

<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-image="4" I-ResetValue="0" I-Digits="5"
U-Custom startspan --><img
src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/tests/?Page=hidden-hit-counter.htm|Image=4|Digits=5"
alt="Hit Counter"><!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-checksum="41315"
endspan -->

The page is at
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/hidden-hit-counter.htm

Yes, I thought that it should read something like that

I seem to have managed to delete the <img> tag
and the <!-- webbot .............. endspan --> tag

I expect mine should read
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom i-image="4"
i-resetvalue="0" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-digits="0" startspan -->
<img src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/?Page=index.html|Image=4" alt="Hit Counter">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-checksum="17034" endspan -->

But it still works without these two tags. I wonder why ?
 
R

Ronx

Are you reading the code in FrontPage Code view, or in the Browser - and
if in the browser, has the page been published?
In FrontPage what you see is correct (for a disc based web). If
published, you should not see the
PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
Unless the page has been published to a server with no FP extensions.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp



Ronx said:
My hit counter on my LAN server has the following code:

<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-image="4" I-ResetValue="0" I-Digits="5"
U-Custom startspan --><img
src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/tests/?Page=hidden-hit-counter.htm|Image=4|Digits=5"
alt="Hit Counter"><!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-checksum="41315"
endspan -->

The page is at
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/hidden-hit-counter.htm

Yes, I thought that it should read something like that

I seem to have managed to delete the <img> tag
and the <!-- webbot .............. endspan --> tag

I expect mine should read
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom i-image="4"
i-resetvalue="0" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-digits="0" startspan -->
<img src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/?Page=index.html|Image=4" alt="Hit Counter">
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-checksum="17034" endspan -->

But it still works without these two tags. I wonder why ?

--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
 
T

Trevor L.

Ronx said:
Are you reading the code in FrontPage Code view, or in the Browser -
and if in the browser, has the page been published?
In FrontPage what you see is correct (for a disc based web). If
published, you should not see the
PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
Unless the page has been published to a server with no FP extensions.
--

Interesting

In FP Code view of http://trevorl.mvps.org/index.html, I see:
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom i-image="4"
i-resetvalue="0" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-digits="0" -->
The counter was entered by editing http://trevorl.mvps.org/index.html live
in FP. The site has FP extensions

In the browser for http://trevorl.mvps.org/index.html, I see:
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom i-image="4"
i-resetvalue="0" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-digits="0" startspan --><img
src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/?Page=index.html|Image=4" alt="Hit
Counter"><!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-checksum="17416" endspan -->

In the copy published back to my local disk, I see
<!--webbot bot="HitCounter" u-custom i-image="4"
i-resetvalue="0" PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;"
i-digits="0" startspan --><img
src="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Trevor/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/mvpweb/?Page=index.html|Image=4"
alt="Hit Counter"><!--webbot bot="HitCounter" i-checksum="17034" endspan -->
As I have no server on my PC, this does not work as a Hit Counter

So I guess the server generates the rest of the webbot and changes the
reference when it is published.

It works OK, so I assume it is correct, unless of course some incorrect code
is being handled OK by FP.

I would actaully prefer to have my own Hit Counter, so I knew what I was
doing rather than rely on the FP generated one. So I may look at setting up
another DB on this site.
 
R

Ronx

As far as I know, HitMe only generates custom images for the hit counter
- you still have to use the FP counter.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp



David said:
And you can also try HitMe FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm instead of using FrontPage
to insert the hit counter.

This looks very nice so I am surprised that Steve didn't mention it.

What advantages does it have over the standard Hit Counter ?
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
 

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