Need Help on Assigning Specific Permissions to Shares

[Vicente Castello]

I need help in setting specific permissions to a Share using Windows XP Home
Edition. I have seen XP Professional and do not see capability in that
version as well.

I have a share on my local machine that I would like to access via the
network. In the past, using Windows 2000, I've been able to set specific
domains\userids for the share. For example, I would only assign \\a\b as the
userid for accessing the share and then I would use these same user
credentials when accessing the share from the network. This worked fine
under Windows 2000. However, in Windows XP Home, I do not see the capability
seen in Windows 2000. With XP, if I share a folder, every user who has
access to the network would have access to the share. It is basically
behaving in the same manner if I left the default permission using Windows
2000 where 'Everyone' would be associated to the share. I doubt that
Microsoft would take away the feature available in past versions. I must not
be looking in the right place.

If you know where I can set specific permissions to a share, please let me
know by sending a copy of response to (e-mail address removed).

Thanks in advance.

--Vince

 

[Steven L Umbach]

XP Pro has the ability, however you have to disable simple file sharing which is the
only method used in XP Home from what I know. You will have to rely on ntfs
permissions in XP Home to control access which can be accessed only in safe mode as
described in the KB link below. XP Home does not have all the features of W2K with XP
Pro being the comparable next generation desktop OS. XP Home computers can not join a
domain either. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308418

 

[Keith]

In a Workgroup, XP uses simple file sharing by default.
With simple file sharing, users connecting to an XP
machine though the network always use the guest acount.
Which means you have no control over who can access a
share. Either everyone on the network can or no one can.
Article 290403 tells how to turn off simplified sharing in
XP Pro but it doesn't say it works in Home edition. On
several XP pro machines I've controled share access by
removing the Everyone access and adding access for users I
want to give access.

But in XP home, anytime I remove the Everyone access, no
one can access the share. It's the same with share
permissions or NTFS permissions. It's like simple file
sharing is enabled even after changing the registry as per
290403.

Is there anyway to control share access in XP home? Or is
it by design to get you to pay the extra bucks for XP Pro?

-----Original Message-----
XP Pro has the ability, however you have to disable

simple file sharing which is the

 

[Steven L Umbach]

I have used XP Home like one time. From what I know, the simple file sharing
can not be changed which would leave only ntfs permissions to control
access. Since I do not have a XP Home machine, I am not sure to what extent
ntfs can be configured as far as custom user groups, etc. I thought, but I
may be wrong, that you could at least configure specific users and/or built
in groups to have necessary ntfs permissions. If the everyone group is
removed and there are no other entries for users then of course no one would
be able to gain access [without taking ownership] but I thought you could
add specific users or built in groups such as administrators or power users.
Hopefully someone that knows for sure will set me straight on ntfs
permissions with XP Home. --- Steve

 

[Keith]

I found out that you can't setup different access rights
for different network users in XP Home. That's because
simple file sharing can't be turned off in Home as it can
be in Pro. With simple file sharing turned on, ALL
network users athenticate with the guest account. (Even
if it's turned off for local access.) Whatever share
access you give the guest account, ALL users on the
network will have. Even in differnt workgroups. See
articles 304040, 303248, 307874.

-----Original Message-----
I have used XP Home like one time. From what I know, the simple file sharing
can not be changed which would leave only ntfs permissions to control
access. Since I do not have a XP Home machine, I am not sure to what extent
ntfs can be configured as far as custom user groups, etc. I thought, but I
may be wrong, that you could at least configure specific users and/or built
in groups to have necessary ntfs permissions. If the everyone group is
removed and there are no other entries for users then of course no one would
be able to gain access [without taking ownership] but I thought you could
add specific users or built in groups such as administrators or power users.
Hopefully someone that knows for sure will set me straight on ntfs
permissions with XP Home. --- Steve

In a Workgroup, XP uses simple file sharing by default.
With simple file sharing, users connecting to an XP
machine though the network always use the guest acount.
Which means you have no control over who can access a
share. Either everyone on the network can or no one can.
Article 290403 tells how to turn off simplified sharing in
XP Pro but it doesn't say it works in Home edition. On
several XP pro machines I've controled share access by
removing the Everyone access and adding access for users I
want to give access.

But in XP home, anytime I remove the Everyone access, no
one can access the share. It's the same with share
permissions or NTFS permissions. It's like simple file
sharing is enabled even after changing the registry as per
290403.

Is there anyway to control share access in XP home? Or is
it by design to get you to pay the extra bucks for XP Pro?


simple file sharing which is the all
the features of W2K with XP Share
using Windows XP Home to
access via the network.
This worked fine share.
I doubt that past
versions. I must not

.

 

[Steven L Umbach]

Thanks for that information. If users are forced to authenticate as guests,
that sure limits configurability for network use in Home, but that is it's
intended design. -- Steve

I found out that you can't setup different access rights
for different network users in XP Home. That's because
simple file sharing can't be turned off in Home as it can
be in Pro. With simple file sharing turned on, ALL
network users athenticate with the guest account. (Even
if it's turned off for local access.) Whatever share
access you give the guest account, ALL users on the
network will have. Even in differnt workgroups. See
articles 304040, 303248, 307874.

-----Original Message-----
I have used XP Home like one time. From what I know, the simple file sharing
can not be changed which would leave only ntfs permissions to control
access. Since I do not have a XP Home machine, I am not sure to what extent
ntfs can be configured as far as custom user groups, etc. I thought, but I
may be wrong, that you could at least configure specific users and/or built
in groups to have necessary ntfs permissions. If the everyone group is
removed and there are no other entries for users then of course no one would
be able to gain access [without taking ownership] but I thought you could
add specific users or built in groups such as administrators or power users.
Hopefully someone that knows for sure will set me straight on ntfs
permissions with XP Home. --- Steve

In a Workgroup, XP uses simple file sharing by default.
With simple file sharing, users connecting to an XP
machine though the network always use the guest acount.
Which means you have no control over who can access a
share. Either everyone on the network can or no one can.
Article 290403 tells how to turn off simplified sharing in
XP Pro but it doesn't say it works in Home edition. On
several XP pro machines I've controled share access by
removing the Everyone access and adding access for users I
want to give access.

But in XP home, anytime I remove the Everyone access, no
one can access the share. It's the same with share
permissions or NTFS permissions. It's like simple file
sharing is enabled even after changing the registry as per
290403.

Is there anyway to control share access in XP home? Or is
it by design to get you to pay the extra bucks for XP Pro?


-----Original Message-----
XP Pro has the ability, however you have to disable
simple file sharing which is the
only method used in XP Home from what I know. You will
have to rely on ntfs
permissions in XP Home to control access which can be
accessed only in safe mode as
described in the KB link below. XP Home does not have all
the features of W2K with XP
Pro being the comparable next generation desktop OS. XP
Home computers can not join a
domain either. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;308418

message
I need help in setting specific permissions to a Share
using Windows XP Home
Edition. I have seen XP Professional and do not see
capability in that
version as well.

I have a share on my local machine that I would like to
access via the
network. In the past, using Windows 2000, I've been
able to set specific
domains\userids for the share. For example, I would
only assign \\a\b as the
userid for accessing the share and then I would use
these same user
credentials when accessing the share from the network.
This worked fine
under Windows 2000. However, in Windows XP Home, I do
not see the capability
seen in Windows 2000. With XP, if I share a folder,
every user who has
access to the network would have access to the share.
It is basically
behaving in the same manner if I left the default
permission using Windows
2000 where 'Everyone' would be associated to the share.
I doubt that
Microsoft would take away the feature available in past
versions. I must not
be looking in the right place.

If you know where I can set specific permissions to a
share, please let me
know by sending a copy of response to
(e-mail address removed).

Thanks in advance.

--Vince




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