Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install?

[psongman]

Hi, I hope you can help me with some unexpected results after
installing Windows 2000 Pro. What happened was, I was having so much
trouble with my Windows 98 that I decided to upgrade. However, I put
the new OS on top of the ole 98.

I followed some instructions on the Net, and got it to boot up using
the new OS by changing boot ini, etc. but here is what is strange. It
says there are no programs in the add/remove programs area and it is
acting like the Windows 2000 area is not connected to the 98 stuff,
but I can use all the programs in the program files area.

So, what should I do to make it work smoothly? I will stop updating
all the stuff I had before, you know, like WMP, Realplayer, Adobe
Acrobat, and other proggies like that, until you counsel me. Final
note, there are no startup items, either, this is too wierd, but they
are all there somehow.

Thanks for assisting, appreciate it, psongman

 

[John John]

Hi, I hope you can help me with some unexpected results after
installing Windows 2000 Pro. What happened was, I was having so much
trouble with my Windows 98 that I decided to upgrade. However, I put
the new OS on top of the ole 98.

I followed some instructions on the Net, and got it to boot up using
the new OS by changing boot ini, etc. but here is what is strange. It
says there are no programs in the add/remove programs area and it is
acting like the Windows 2000 area is not connected to the 98 stuff,
but I can use all the programs in the program files area.

So, what should I do to make it work smoothly? I will stop updating
all the stuff I had before, you know, like WMP, Realplayer, Adobe
Acrobat, and other proggies like that, until you counsel me. Final
note, there are no startup items, either, this is too wierd, but they
are all there somehow.

Thanks for assisting, appreciate it, psongman

Upgrades from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 are almost always problematic
and doomed to fail for one reason or another. If you want a sturdy,
reliable Windows 2000 installation you should format your drive and
install Windows 2000 cleanly, you will have a much better installation
and in turn it will lead to a better computing experience. Windows 2000
is an extremely reliable and robust operating system but it has to be
properly installed if you want it to work properly.

After you install the operating system install the latest service pack
and hotfixes. DO NOT connect the unpatched computer to the internet
without a properly configured firewall! As installed Windows 2000 is
EXTREMELY vulnerable to worms and virus if not properly protected.
These are what I would consider as bare minimum on a new Windows 2000
installation:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/servicepacks/sp4/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/rollup.mspx

John

 

[Dave Patrick]

Sounds like you installed a dual-boot instead of an upgrade.

Be advised that upgrades from win9x almost always fail for any number of
reasons. Save yourself some time and trouble, given that you'll more than
likely end up with an unstable OS with all the remnants/ corruption left
behind from the upgrade. Best to blow it all away and go for the clean
install.

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver
for your drive controller in drive "A")

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en


During Windows 2000 setup, at some point, will want to confirm the previous
operating system for the upgrade; at that point you'll simply insert the
qualified product install CD for it to verify. Then the install will
proceed.


Check the pc, mb or hardware manufacturer's web site for the latest bios and
or Windows 2000 drivers for your devices.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

 

[psongman]

Hi, WOW, thanks for the great insight and ideas. I do understand why
it would be better for a reinstall, but the computer is working quite
well. I guess what I was hinting at in my inquiry was...what really
happened after the install of Windows 2000 PRO? I mean what occurred
to all the files and programs that were in the Windows 98 section and
why aren't there any programs in ADD/REMOVE or in the STARTUP menu?

When you are not overly computer literate, but know how to maneuver
around on one, these questions defy understanding. The computer I
installed Windows 2000 PRO on didn't have any of my programs on it, so
following your procedures wouldn't be that diffcult....but, I won't be
using it that much as my other main computer that I use for recording
music and a few other works is Windows XP HOME< haha, had to mention
that.

I do have to say one wonderful thing about Windows 2000, whew, it
boots up and turns off in like 10 seconds. I could get like 2 cups of
coffee when it boots up and like 3 beers (yes, I drink fast, jk) when
it closes down on my ancient Windows 98 neanderthal station. Anyway, I
will do a bit more research but probably will reinstall as I don't
want some of the problems that have come up on my old Windows 98SE
machine....I mean like it is hanging all the time now, and I clean,
flush, defrag, etc, but when they get gummed up, near the end.
Appreciate your assistance, psongman

 

[philo]

Hi, WOW, thanks for the great insight and ideas. I do understand why
it would be better for a reinstall, but the computer is working quite
well. I guess what I was hinting at in my inquiry was...what really
happened after the install of Windows 2000 PRO? I mean what occurred
to all the files and programs that were in the Windows 98 section and
why aren't there any programs in ADD/REMOVE or in the STARTUP menu?

When you are not overly computer literate, but know how to maneuver
around on one, these questions defy understanding. The computer I
installed Windows 2000 PRO on didn't have any of my programs on it, so
following your procedures wouldn't be that diffcult....but, I won't be
using it that much as my other main computer that I use for recording
music and a few other works is Windows XP HOME< haha, had to mention
that.

I do have to say one wonderful thing about Windows 2000, whew, it
boots up and turns off in like 10 seconds. I could get like 2 cups of
coffee when it boots up and like 3 beers (yes, I drink fast, jk) when
it closes down on my ancient Windows 98 neanderthal station. Anyway, I
will do a bit more research but probably will reinstall as I don't
want some of the problems that have come up on my old Windows 98SE
machine....I mean like it is hanging all the time now, and I clean,
flush, defrag, etc, but when they get gummed up, near the end.
Appreciate your assistance, psongman

As mentioned upgrading win98 to win2k can lead to some major problems...
However it looks like what you did was to install win2k in a seperate
folder...
in other words...you did not upgrade your win98...you merely installed win2k
as a second operating system.

As long as you do not boot back to win98 you should be fine...as your Win2k
is essentially a clean install.

Since your previous applications were installed on the win98 section...they
will not work on win2k...
so you will need to reinstall all your applications.

Note...your original data will still be on the machine...
probably in your win98 profile (if you search, you should find it)

 

[Dave Patrick]

Sounds like you installed a dual-boot instead of an upgrade. Do you have two
startup choices just after POST?

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

 

[psongman]

Hi, yes, I "had" two choices on bootup, but I changed the boot ini,
file and now Windows 2000 is the default. I am still not understanding
what you mean by a Windows 98 section. Where is at and can I get at it
and tailor it for my needs?

So, you are saying that when you install an OS, there are no programs
running and there are none in the startup folder? I don't see how that
could be possible but must be. Thanks for replying, psongman

 

[Dave Patrick]

You installed a clean installation of Windows 2000 either in a separate
folder or separate partition. The choice you deleted from boot.ini was the
option to start the original installation of Windows 98

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect