MVP's were are you

[Guest]

Steve, i can link with ftp://ftp.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk, but isn't this
still ftp

 

[Doug]

I'd like to point you to the following information, before you continue
giving advice on FTP transfer & data formats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol#Data_format

Regards,
Doug

 

[Steve Easton]

Publisher is a graphics program, not a web page layout program.

As for FTP corrupting - pardon me, but that's BULL-SHIp.

No it isn't.
The form in Publisher, or FrontPage requires the FPSE.
Publishing using ftp does "Not" transfer / create the necessary accompanying files
on the server for the form to work.

No person designing websites used Publisher to PUSH content to the site,
at least not any person that cares.

FTP IS THE PROPER METHOD AND WORKS NO MATTER WHAT PLATFORM YOU DESIGN
IN.

Not true

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Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[Leythos]

I'd like to point you to the following information, before you continue
giving advice on FTP transfer & data formats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol#Data_format

And I would like to point out that FTP will work just fine, but not from
within Publisher - the output can be exported to a folder and that
folder can be uploaded by FTP to the site.

That's the problem with people that don't use the proper tools for the
access they have - they don't get the results they want.

As for understanding FTP, lets just say that I've been using FTP since
the very early 80's and completely understand what FTP is and does, even
better than the "User Contribution" site you provided a link to.

The problem is that the person is not using a Web Site authoring
program, doesn't understand how to export the site, and only understand
the MS way of doing things - which MOST of the web hosting world doesn't
follow.

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[Leythos]

No it isn't.
The form in Publisher, or FrontPage requires the FPSE.
Publishing using ftp does "Not" transfer / create the necessary accompanying files
on the server for the form to work.

If you understand more than just clicking "Publish" you can do it just
fine.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[Steve Easton]

Ok,

I'm in Vista.

Right click the network icon on the desktop.
Select "Map network drive."
In the "Map Network drive dialog" click :
"Connect to a website that you can use to store your documents and pictures"

Enter http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk

You will be prompted for user name and password,
and when entered the link will be created in Computer.

However, if the extensions are corrupt on the server, and they probably are if you've published using ftp://
have your host restore / repair / reinstall the extensions.
Then make your new network place using the above procedure.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[Steve Easton]

If you understand more than just clicking "Publish" you can do it just
fine.

If using asp, asp.net or php correct.
But not if you're publishing a web bot created form generated using Publisher or FrontPage.
When publishing a web bot generated form using http, the necessary associated files are
"Created" on the server by the extensions.
They do not ever publish from the client to the server using http://, and using ftp
bypasses the extensions. Therefore the aforementioned web bot generated forms will "Never" work.

also fwiw, my first web was created with windows and notepad and dropped on the server
by dragging and dropping using Internet Explorer.

So, I "think" my understanding is just a tad deeper than clicking "Publish."

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[Leythos]

If using asp, asp.net or php correct.
But not if you're publishing a web bot created form generated using Publisher or FrontPage.
When publishing a web bot generated form using http, the necessary associated files are
"Created" on the server by the extensions.
They do not ever publish from the client to the server using http://, and using ftp
bypasses the extensions. Therefore the aforementioned web bot generated forms will "Never" work.

also fwiw, my first web was created with windows and notepad and dropped on the server
by dragging and dropping using Internet Explorer.

So, I "think" my understanding is just a tad deeper than clicking "Publish."

It appears I am very wrong, complete misunderstanding of the Publisher
functions. I apologize to the group, op, and thread readers.

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[Steve Easton]

It appears I am very wrong, complete misunderstanding of the Publisher
functions. I apologize to the group, op, and thread readers.

Don't feel bad, you're not alone in misunderstanding the forms and ftp issues in Publisher and FP.
We get posts all of the time in the FP groups about broken forms.

That's one of the reasons web bot forms don't exist in Expression Web and SharePoint Designer.

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

 

[Marco Desloovere]

Because it doesn't work with all hosting companies and FTP works with
all properly configured solutions by all companies.

OK, fair enough, then I guess that I'm just lucky, because the Vista
method works extremely well for me.

Marco

 

[Guest]

Steve.
Many thanks for putting the techincal side across to readers in this group
better than i ever could!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have tried your suggestion - no joy.

Did you manage to in put an http address in to your computer, if so, i must
have something blocking my input.

I will reinstall the extensions, once i get this connection shorted, i can
do this from my control panel on my host server web site.

Is it possible to suggest if you have managed to input said address to let
me know what colud be blocking this, i just get the folder you have entered
does not appear valid, please choose another

 

[Jane C]

Hi brelade,

I believe the issue is the lack of inbuilt support for WebDAV in Vista.
This download may help:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...12-632E-4C04-9382-987622ED1D64&displaylang=en

 

[Leythos]

OK, fair enough, then I guess that I'm just lucky, because the Vista
method works extremely well for me.

As was explained to me in another post, I was wrong when it comes to
using the MS tools that are not following the Web standards, sorry for
my confusion.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[Charlie Tame]

Tried there no joy, but will post there as well, i am getting more joy here,
hopeing someone who is in to web design as well has an answer

Pardon my possible ignorance of MS appaling Front Page and their weird
"Server Extensions" but what I am seeing is a template that says

http://webserver/share

While you are trying

http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk

which is not the same...

Should it not be

http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk

http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk/index_files for the folder that the contact form is in?

Or maybe

http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk/public_html if uploading the whole site?

I still see no sense in losing the ability to use FTP but frontpage sucks.

Unfortunately form processing is not the easiest bit of HTML to learn.

 

[Guest]

Jane.

Many thanks "BANG ON THE MONEY" with this
one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, your download has done the trick.

You don't know how long i have been trying to get an answer on this subject,
lets just say weeks.

I knew what i wanted to do, but Add new network connection wouldn't allow me
to do this.

I am going to pass this info on to my host, as they have been lacking on
subject knowledge on Vista & soon as you mention Publisher it throws people
sideways..

Thankyou to "ALL" who have replied to my question it has been interesting
reading.

Please visit my website at http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk anytime and
test the response form (Better viewed in IE not Firefox at present)

 

[Jane C]

Hi brelade,

Good to hear that did the trick. Thanks for posting back.

BTW, those spaniels are great