MSE and Avira real-time running together

[gene]

I turned off the real-time scan features of Avira Antivir (free) and
turned on MSE's, and then rebooted to see what would load and whether
there would be any conflicts. Both loaded and so far no problems.

Gene

 

[robinb]

even though you turned off real time protection Avira still is loading on
boot up and checking your computer and so is MSE
You should not run 2 av programs at the same time.
You will fine you will have problems
robin

 

[gene]

even though you turned off real time protection Avira still is
loading on boot up and checking your computer and so is MSE
You should not run 2 av programs at the same time.
You will fine you will have problems
robin

You're correct about Avira, which is why I restarted to see what
happened. So far both are running real time w/o problems, now 24 hrs
and a few restarts later. To be seen.

Gene

 

[robinb]

doesn't mean something will crash in the future
I would not play "Russian roulette"
better to have no problems now then many later
robin

 

[gene]

doesn't mean something will crash in the future
I would not play "Russian roulette"
better to have no problems now then many later
robin

If you knew that uninstalling Avira, which was seemingly getting along
with MSE just fine, would entail two attempts at uninstall, two 'bad
pooler' crashes, a system restore, two visits to Safe Mode, any number
of restarts and close to an hour, would your advice have been the same?
I'm not a fan of that idea, "If it's not broken...," so I won't toss
that out as a moral to this story. Just maybe, though, it would have
been ok to leave it alone until there was a real problem.

Gene

 

[Anonymous Bob]

If you knew that uninstalling Avira, which was seemingly getting along
with MSE just fine, would entail two attempts at uninstall, two 'bad
pooler' crashes, a system restore, two visits to Safe Mode, any number
of restarts and close to an hour, would your advice have been the same?
I'm not a fan of that idea, "If it's not broken...," so I won't toss
that out as a moral to this story. Just maybe, though, it would have
been ok to leave it alone until there was a real problem.

Gene

An alternative perspective might be that the problems would have surfaced
the first time you upgraded Avira and rather than proving "if it not
broken..." you proved it was broken which proves that one should never
attempt to run two AV programs.
;-)

 

[robinb]

no it is much better not to have installed another av program when you are
running one already
Most programs won't even install if it sees another AV program
It comes up with a message telling you need to uninstall the first one
before you install the new one
Anyone here or on any forum who has IT experience will tell you NOT to run 2
antivirus programs at the same time regardless if you turn off the resident
shield
robin

 

[gene]

An alternative perspective might be that the problems would have
surfaced the first time you upgraded Avira and rather than proving
"if it not broken..." you proved it was broken which proves that one
should never attempt to run two AV programs.
;-)

Avira automatically updates definitions daily and upgrades the program
with some regularity, so that wasn't an issue. My initial posting was
really just meant to say that among all the reports of conflicts people
were having with dual installs, here's a case where there wasn't an
apparent problem, whether that turned out to be a 'yet' or not at all.
Btw, what I did was take an already installed MSE, previously used for
manual runs only, and turn on the resident shield to see what
happened.

A question: Does MSE monitor/scan emails and P2P downloads? The MSE
site info is barebones as to what it covers and doesn't.

Gene

 

[Stephen Boots MVP-Windows Live]

There is tons of MSE discussion here:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse
If you scan the threads, you'll find your question answered multiple
times regarding email scanning. The answer is not the way other
programs do by monkeying with the mail stream, inserting a transparent
proxy. It does protect against malicious code in an attachment or a
"live" email that attempts to perform a malicious action.

This is really a set of newsgroups for Windows Defender, not MSE.
-steve

 

[gene]

There is tons of MSE discussion here:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse
If you scan the threads, you'll find your question answered multiple
times regarding email scanning. The answer is not the way other
programs do by monkeying with the mail stream, inserting a transparent
proxy. It does protect against malicious code in an attachment or a
"live" email that attempts to perform a malicious action.

This is really a set of newsgroups for Windows Defender, not MSE.
-steve

Thanks. Isn't it normal to post what a program of this type does in
reasonable detail at its home page?

Gene

 

[Stephen Boots MVP-Windows Live]

Thanks. Isn't it normal to post what a program of this type does in
reasonable detail at its home page?

I would think so, but then we're consumers, not Marketing. They have
their own ideas of what the FAQ should include. I imagine that the
statement that it protects the PC from malicious programs means that
all vectors are protected - from a Marketing perspective. ;-)
-steve