MS Whistler Personal

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Gene

My neighbor gave me his HP Pavilion 751N computer. It consists of a Pentium
4 cpu, 1.80 ghz, 224 mb ram, SIS 650, and a 72Gb HD. It also has a CD
Writer, DVD player, 3.5 diskette drive and a couple of low speed USB ports.
He could not locate the restore disk for the computer and thinks it was
discarded.

When I start it in the safe mode and then switch to regular mode it states
it's running Microsoft Whistler Personal. This is some type of XP OS.

There seems to be many more programs and folders on the C: hard drive than
show up in add/remove programs. This is true even in the safe mode. They are
also present on the start/all programs menu and even though I've not checked
all of them many can be clicked on and run.

I am asking for some input and help on:
1. Is there a way to see the programs in the add/remove programs screen or
somewhere so I can remove what I don't want?
2. I have an unopened copy of MS XP Professional and would like to know if I
can overwrite the Whistler Personal XP and how?
3. If #2 is true do I then need to find drivers for the CD, DVD and USB
devices?

TIA.... Gene
 
J

John John (MVP)

Gene said:
My neighbor gave me his HP Pavilion 751N computer. It consists of a Pentium
4 cpu, 1.80 ghz, 224 mb ram, SIS 650, and a 72Gb HD. It also has a CD
Writer, DVD player, 3.5 diskette drive and a couple of low speed USB ports.
He could not locate the restore disk for the computer and thinks it was
discarded.

When I start it in the safe mode and then switch to regular mode it states
it's running Microsoft Whistler Personal. This is some type of XP OS.

There seems to be many more programs and folders on the C: hard drive than
show up in add/remove programs. This is true even in the safe mode. They are
also present on the start/all programs menu and even though I've not checked
all of them many can be clicked on and run.

I am asking for some input and help on:
1. Is there a way to see the programs in the add/remove programs screen or
somewhere so I can remove what I don't want?
2. I have an unopened copy of MS XP Professional and would like to know if I
can overwrite the Whistler Personal XP and how?
3. If #2 is true do I then need to find drivers for the CD, DVD and USB
devices?

Whistler Personal was an XP Home beta release, in other words it wasn't
yet "fully baked" it was meant for testers to try out, that is what beta
software is, unfinished software put out for testing and user feedback.

You will be able to install your copy of XP Pro on the machine and you
will not need drivers for the CD, DVD and USB devices, all the required
files to properly run those are on the XP CD. Just boot the computer
with the XP Pro CD and at the partition and drive selection screen
select to format the partition NTFS and it will erase everything on the
drive and then proceed to install XP.

John
 
G

Gene

Greetings John,

I changed the BIOS to boot from the CD drive first but that did nothing. I
ended up changing it back and starting setup from the XP Pro. CD.

I have it in there but I had to erase a partition call 'utilities' as it
would warned me not to install over the NTSF existing partition as it said
something about have two operating systems on that partition if I did that
and one interfering with the other.

Now I have a C: drive [72gb w/60gb free] that seems to have the old programs
still on it [C;/program files] and maybe the old version of windows with the
users names.

I also have a new F: drive [4.28gb w/3.03 gb free]. This seems to have the
new OS on it and only one new user = me.

I did a restart on the computer and it went to the new OS as all the old
programs do not show up on the start/all programs menu. However I don't seem
to have any audio and in checking the hardware manager there is no driver
for it. I also see yellow question marks by an entry named multimedia
device controller and video controller-vga compatible. I tried a search of
the C:\ partition to locate a driver but to no avail.

Since there is no modem, Ethernet card or wireless adaptor on the computer I
have a dilemma. I can't get updates, service packs, or an audio driver
unless I can use my 'real' computer to do that or I will have to see if I
can hunt up one of the above to get on the internet and us an XP wizard to
help me out.

Is there a way out of this jam?

Tks... Gene
 
J

John John (MVP)

You've not done this the right way, start again and format the C:
partition to the NTFS file format and install XP on it. One thing for
sure is that the partition on which you installed Windows is (4.28GB) is
way too small for an XP installation, you may as well delete the
partition C: & F: and then create one large partition with the free
space and format it NTFS. After you create and format the new partition
exit the Windows setup program and reboot the computer and start the
installation again and select to install XP on the new partition that
you just formated earlier. Exiting the setup program after you delete
and create partitions avoids drive letter mixups, it will ensure that
Windows is installed on drive C:

You don't need to save anything on the old drive, it only contains junk
and an XP beta version that is unsuitable for anything, when you delete
the partitions and format the drive if you get messages saying that the
drive(s) contain operating systems accept to delete and format anyway,
that is what you need to do, get rid of the old useless junk on the
drive and install Windows XP on a fresh clean and newly formated drive.

As for the updates and audio drivers you can download those with your
other computer or you can wire the computers in a simple network and use
internet connection sharing, start a new thread for help with that.

The Windows XP CD is bootable so I don't know why it doesn't boot the
computer, check that again and make sure you select the right boot order
in the BIOS and then pay attention when the computer boots, you may have
to press a key to boot the cd, you may see a message telling you to
press a particular key to boot with the CD.

John
Greetings John,

I changed the BIOS to boot from the CD drive first but that did nothing. I
ended up changing it back and starting setup from the XP Pro. CD.

I have it in there but I had to erase a partition call 'utilities' as it
would warned me not to install over the NTSF existing partition as it said
something about have two operating systems on that partition if I did that
and one interfering with the other.

Now I have a C: drive [72gb w/60gb free] that seems to have the old programs
still on it [C;/program files] and maybe the old version of windows with the
users names.

I also have a new F: drive [4.28gb w/3.03 gb free]. This seems to have the
new OS on it and only one new user = me.

I did a restart on the computer and it went to the new OS as all the old
programs do not show up on the start/all programs menu. However I don't seem
to have any audio and in checking the hardware manager there is no driver
for it. I also see yellow question marks by an entry named multimedia
device controller and video controller-vga compatible. I tried a search of
the C:\ partition to locate a driver but to no avail.

Since there is no modem, Ethernet card or wireless adaptor on the computer I
have a dilemma. I can't get updates, service packs, or an audio driver
unless I can use my 'real' computer to do that or I will have to see if I
can hunt up one of the above to get on the internet and us an XP wizard to
help me out.

Is there a way out of this jam?

Tks... Gene

Gene wrote:



Whistler Personal was an XP Home beta release, in other words it wasn't
yet "fully baked" it was meant for testers to try out, that is what beta
software is, unfinished software put out for testing and user feedback.

You will be able to install your copy of XP Pro on the machine and you
will not need drivers for the CD, DVD and USB devices, all the required
files to properly run those are on the XP CD. Just boot the computer with
the XP Pro CD and at the partition and drive selection screen select to
format the partition NTFS and it will erase everything on the drive and
then proceed to install XP.

John
 
G

Gene

Got it done !

Thank you so much for all your help. It is much appreciated!!!

Now I'll go looking for the updates and service packs. Hopefully I can put
them on my thumb drive.


John John (MVP) said:
You've not done this the right way, start again and format the C:
partition to the NTFS file format and install XP on it. One thing for
sure is that the partition on which you installed Windows is (4.28GB) is
way too small for an XP installation, you may as well delete the partition
C: & F: and then create one large partition with the free space and format
it NTFS. After you create and format the new partition exit the Windows
setup program and reboot the computer and start the installation again and
select to install XP on the new partition that you just formated earlier.
Exiting the setup program after you delete and create partitions avoids
drive letter mixups, it will ensure that Windows is installed on drive C:

You don't need to save anything on the old drive, it only contains junk
and an XP beta version that is unsuitable for anything, when you delete
the partitions and format the drive if you get messages saying that the
drive(s) contain operating systems accept to delete and format anyway,
that is what you need to do, get rid of the old useless junk on the drive
and install Windows XP on a fresh clean and newly formated drive.

As for the updates and audio drivers you can download those with your
other computer or you can wire the computers in a simple network and use
internet connection sharing, start a new thread for help with that.

The Windows XP CD is bootable so I don't know why it doesn't boot the
computer, check that again and make sure you select the right boot order
in the BIOS and then pay attention when the computer boots, you may have
to press a key to boot the cd, you may see a message telling you to press
a particular key to boot with the CD.

John
Greetings John,

I changed the BIOS to boot from the CD drive first but that did nothing.
I ended up changing it back and starting setup from the XP Pro. CD.

I have it in there but I had to erase a partition call 'utilities' as it
would warned me not to install over the NTSF existing partition as it
said something about have two operating systems on that partition if I
did that and one interfering with the other.

Now I have a C: drive [72gb w/60gb free] that seems to have the old
programs still on it [C;/program files] and maybe the old version of
windows with the users names.

I also have a new F: drive [4.28gb w/3.03 gb free]. This seems to have
the new OS on it and only one new user = me.

I did a restart on the computer and it went to the new OS as all the old
programs do not show up on the start/all programs menu. However I don't
seem to have any audio and in checking the hardware manager there is no
driver for it. I also see yellow question marks by an entry named
multimedia device controller and video controller-vga compatible. I tried
a search of the C:\ partition to locate a driver but to no avail.

Since there is no modem, Ethernet card or wireless adaptor on the
computer I have a dilemma. I can't get updates, service packs, or an
audio driver unless I can use my 'real' computer to do that or I will
have to see if I can hunt up one of the above to get on the internet and
us an XP wizard to help me out.

Is there a way out of this jam?

Tks... Gene

Gene wrote:


My neighbor gave me his HP Pavilion 751N computer. It consists of a
Pentium 4 cpu, 1.80 ghz, 224 mb ram, SIS 650, and a 72Gb HD. It also has
a CD Writer, DVD player, 3.5 diskette drive and a couple of low speed
USB ports. He could not locate the restore disk for the computer and
thinks it was discarded.

When I start it in the safe mode and then switch to regular mode it
states it's running Microsoft Whistler Personal. This is some type of XP
OS.

There seems to be many more programs and folders on the C: hard drive
than show up in add/remove programs. This is true even in the safe mode.
They are also present on the start/all programs menu and even though
I've not checked all of them many can be clicked on and run.

I am asking for some input and help on:
1. Is there a way to see the programs in the add/remove programs screen
or somewhere so I can remove what I don't want?
2. I have an unopened copy of MS XP Professional and would like to know
if I can overwrite the Whistler Personal XP and how?
3. If #2 is true do I then need to find drivers for the CD, DVD and USB
devices?

Whistler Personal was an XP Home beta release, in other words it wasn't
yet "fully baked" it was meant for testers to try out, that is what beta
software is, unfinished software put out for testing and user feedback.

You will be able to install your copy of XP Pro on the machine and you
will not need drivers for the CD, DVD and USB devices, all the required
files to properly run those are on the XP CD. Just boot the computer
with the XP Pro CD and at the partition and drive selection screen select
to format the partition NTFS and it will erase everything on the drive
and then proceed to install XP.

John
 
J

John John (MVP)

You're welcome and thanks for the follow up. I'm happy to see that you
got it done properly.

John
Got it done !

Thank you so much for all your help. It is much appreciated!!!

Now I'll go looking for the updates and service packs. Hopefully I can put
them on my thumb drive.


You've not done this the right way, start again and format the C:
partition to the NTFS file format and install XP on it. One thing for
sure is that the partition on which you installed Windows is (4.28GB) is
way too small for an XP installation, you may as well delete the partition
C: & F: and then create one large partition with the free space and format
it NTFS. After you create and format the new partition exit the Windows
setup program and reboot the computer and start the installation again and
select to install XP on the new partition that you just formated earlier.
Exiting the setup program after you delete and create partitions avoids
drive letter mixups, it will ensure that Windows is installed on drive C:

You don't need to save anything on the old drive, it only contains junk
and an XP beta version that is unsuitable for anything, when you delete
the partitions and format the drive if you get messages saying that the
drive(s) contain operating systems accept to delete and format anyway,
that is what you need to do, get rid of the old useless junk on the drive
and install Windows XP on a fresh clean and newly formated drive.

As for the updates and audio drivers you can download those with your
other computer or you can wire the computers in a simple network and use
internet connection sharing, start a new thread for help with that.

The Windows XP CD is bootable so I don't know why it doesn't boot the
computer, check that again and make sure you select the right boot order
in the BIOS and then pay attention when the computer boots, you may have
to press a key to boot the cd, you may see a message telling you to press
a particular key to boot with the CD.

John

Gene wrote:

Greetings John,

I changed the BIOS to boot from the CD drive first but that did nothing.
I ended up changing it back and starting setup from the XP Pro. CD.

I have it in there but I had to erase a partition call 'utilities' as it
would warned me not to install over the NTSF existing partition as it
said something about have two operating systems on that partition if I
did that and one interfering with the other.

Now I have a C: drive [72gb w/60gb free] that seems to have the old
programs still on it [C;/program files] and maybe the old version of
windows with the users names.

I also have a new F: drive [4.28gb w/3.03 gb free]. This seems to have
the new OS on it and only one new user = me.

I did a restart on the computer and it went to the new OS as all the old
programs do not show up on the start/all programs menu. However I don't
seem to have any audio and in checking the hardware manager there is no
driver for it. I also see yellow question marks by an entry named
multimedia device controller and video controller-vga compatible. I tried
a search of the C:\ partition to locate a driver but to no avail.

Since there is no modem, Ethernet card or wireless adaptor on the
computer I have a dilemma. I can't get updates, service packs, or an
audio driver unless I can use my 'real' computer to do that or I will
have to see if I can hunt up one of the above to get on the internet and
us an XP wizard to help me out.

Is there a way out of this jam?

Tks... Gene



Gene wrote:



My neighbor gave me his HP Pavilion 751N computer. It consists of a
Pentium 4 cpu, 1.80 ghz, 224 mb ram, SIS 650, and a 72Gb HD. It also has
a CD Writer, DVD player, 3.5 diskette drive and a couple of low speed
USB ports. He could not locate the restore disk for the computer and
thinks it was discarded.

When I start it in the safe mode and then switch to regular mode it
states it's running Microsoft Whistler Personal. This is some type of XP
OS.

There seems to be many more programs and folders on the C: hard drive
than show up in add/remove programs. This is true even in the safe mode.
They are also present on the start/all programs menu and even though
I've not checked all of them many can be clicked on and run.

I am asking for some input and help on:
1. Is there a way to see the programs in the add/remove programs screen
or somewhere so I can remove what I don't want?
2. I have an unopened copy of MS XP Professional and would like to know
if I can overwrite the Whistler Personal XP and how?
3. If #2 is true do I then need to find drivers for the CD, DVD and USB
devices?

Whistler Personal was an XP Home beta release, in other words it wasn't
yet "fully baked" it was meant for testers to try out, that is what beta
software is, unfinished software put out for testing and user feedback.

You will be able to install your copy of XP Pro on the machine and you
will not need drivers for the CD, DVD and USB devices, all the required
files to properly run those are on the XP CD. Just boot the computer
with the XP Pro CD and at the partition and drive selection screen select
to format the partition NTFS and it will erase everything on the drive
and then proceed to install XP.

John
 

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