Moving PST folder for IMAP account?

[brett]

I have an IMAP account setup in Outlook 2007. Outlooks defaults my PST
file to a folder in Documents and Settings. I'd like to rename and
move the PST file to another location. However, Outlook doesn't seem
to allow changing the PST location for an IMAP account. I notice a POP
account does have the "Change Folder" option.

Is the Outlook set PST file name and location unchangeable?

Thanks,
Brett

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

Close Outlook. Move the file with Explorer. GO into Control Panel, Mail,
Data Files and click on the IMAP PST. In the dialog that comes up, find
the PST in your new location.

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[brett]

Close Outlook. Move the file with Explorer. GO into Control Panel, Mail,

Data Files and click on the IMAP PST. In the dialog that comes up, find
the PST in your new location.

This doesn't make any sense. It's the same steps I was doing in
Outlook. Which tab are you referring to - "E-mail" or "Data Files"?
Either one does not allow you to change the location of a PST file.

If you can give a step by step of actually moving one of these, that
would be helpful. Although, it sounds as though you are still thinking
about a POP account and not IMAP. You'll see the difference once you
try it.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

Right, I forgot that Outlook immediately recreates the file there
instead of asking you for a new location.
Let me see if I can't get some info on this.

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[Roady [MVP]]

The thing is you shouldn't do this in Outlook but when Outlook is closed.
When you start Outlook it will recreate it; that is why you have to do it
through the Control Panel-> Mail applet.

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Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----

Close Outlook. Move the file with Explorer. GO into Control Panel, Mail,
Data Files and click on the IMAP PST. In the dialog that comes up, find
the PST in your new location.

This doesn't make any sense. It's the same steps I was doing in
Outlook. Which tab are you referring to - "E-mail" or "Data Files"?
Either one does not allow you to change the location of a PST file.

If you can give a step by step of actually moving one of these, that
would be helpful. Although, it sounds as though you are still thinking
about a POP account and not IMAP. You'll see the difference once you
try it.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

It recreates it in Control Panel, Mail with 2007 as well.

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The thing is you shouldn't do this in Outlook but when Outlook is closed.
When you start Outlook it will recreate it; that is why you have to do it
through the Control Panel-> Mail applet.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----

Close Outlook. Move the file with Explorer. GO into Control Panel, Mail,
Data Files and click on the IMAP PST. In the dialog that comes up, find
the PST in your new location.

This doesn't make any sense. It's the same steps I was doing in
Outlook. Which tab are you referring to - "E-mail" or "Data Files"?
Either one does not allow you to change the location of a PST file.

If you can give a step by step of actually moving one of these, that
would be helpful. Although, it sounds as though you are still thinking
about a POP account and not IMAP. You'll see the difference once you
try it.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[brett]

It recreates it in Control Panel, Mail with 2007 as well.

Ok. Well, guess I'm stuck with having to keep it there? The bad thing
is, if the path ever changes for some reason, I'll never be able to
reassociate.

The problem now is that I have a PST file that is set as default.
However, no mail account is associated to it. Since I use IMAP, I
can't associate to this PST or any other PST except the one Outlook
forces (as we have seen). My IMAP accounts work but I have the folders
of this non used PST file showing up in the left pane (Mail Folders)
that I can't get rid of. I can't set any of the IMAP PST files as
default either. Any ideas?

I thought I'd try Outlook's new version but now I remember why I moved
to OE.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[Roady [MVP]]

I currently don't have an IMAP account to test with but what happens when
you create a new mail profile and directly choose to have the IMAP account.
Does it still creates two foldersets (pst-files)? 1 for IMAP and 1 separate
pst-file?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----

It recreates it in Control Panel, Mail with 2007 as well.

Ok. Well, guess I'm stuck with having to keep it there? The bad thing
is, if the path ever changes for some reason, I'll never be able to
reassociate.

The problem now is that I have a PST file that is set as default.
However, no mail account is associated to it. Since I use IMAP, I
can't associate to this PST or any other PST except the one Outlook
forces (as we have seen). My IMAP accounts work but I have the folders
of this non used PST file showing up in the left pane (Mail Folders)
that I can't get rid of. I can't set any of the IMAP PST files as
default either. Any ideas?

I thought I'd try Outlook's new version but now I remember why I moved
to OE.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

Not sure where you are getting at, but it does automatically create
those files?

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I currently don't have an IMAP account to test with but what happens when
you create a new mail profile and directly choose to have the IMAP account.
Does it still creates two foldersets (pst-files)? 1 for IMAP and 1 separate
pst-file?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----

It recreates it in Control Panel, Mail with 2007 as well.

Ok. Well, guess I'm stuck with having to keep it there? The bad thing
is, if the path ever changes for some reason, I'll never be able to
reassociate.

The problem now is that I have a PST file that is set as default.
However, no mail account is associated to it. Since I use IMAP, I
can't associate to this PST or any other PST except the one Outlook
forces (as we have seen). My IMAP accounts work but I have the folders
of this non used PST file showing up in the left pane (Mail Folders)
that I can't get rid of. I can't set any of the IMAP PST files as
default either. Any ideas?

I thought I'd try Outlook's new version but now I remember why I moved
to OE.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[brett]

I currently don't have an IMAP account to test with but what happens when
you create a new mail profile and directly choose to have the IMAP account.
Does it still creates two foldersets (pst-files)? 1 for IMAP and 1 separate
pst-file?

When a new IMAP account is setup, it creates one PST file for that
account. It provides the location and file name. You can't change
either.

I have the default PST file with no association to a mail account
running around because I copied all the new PST files from my first
IMAP account setup. I pasted them into a new folder and renamed the
PST files. Then I pointed Outlook to this PST file by Account Settings
| Data Files | Add. But in doing that, I can only associate to a POP
account and not IMAP. So that file is default and I can't get rid of
it.

I think Outlook is saying that you must have at least one non IMAP PST
file and it will be the default PST. If I setup a new POP account with
a new PST file, I can probably make it default. In the end, I believe
this answers my original question: Can an IMAP PST file be
moved/renamed - no.

Brett

 

[Roady [MVP]]

Well documentation stated that you can't have a HTTP account as your default
account so if you had the Outlook Connector you still couldn't have it as
the default delivery location through the Accounts dialog. To work around
this you can create a new mail profile and directly choose the Outlook
Connector so it would end up as both your default account and default
delivery location.

I was wondering if that same method could be used on an IMAP account.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
Not sure where you are getting at, but it does automatically create
those files?

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I currently don't have an IMAP account to test with but what happens when
you create a new mail profile and directly choose to have the IMAP
account.
Does it still creates two foldersets (pst-files)? 1 for IMAP and 1
separate
pst-file?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----

It recreates it in Control Panel, Mail with 2007 as well.

Ok. Well, guess I'm stuck with having to keep it there? The bad thing
is, if the path ever changes for some reason, I'll never be able to
reassociate.

The problem now is that I have a PST file that is set as default.
However, no mail account is associated to it. Since I use IMAP, I
can't associate to this PST or any other PST except the one Outlook
forces (as we have seen). My IMAP accounts work but I have the folders
of this non used PST file showing up in the left pane (Mail Folders)
that I can't get rid of. I can't set any of the IMAP PST files as
default either. Any ideas?

I thought I'd try Outlook's new version but now I remember why I moved
to OE.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[brett]

What is Outlook Connector and how do you choose it? I never see that
in IMAP/POP setup.

Brett

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

Don't think so. IMAP has always required a different PST as default
delivery location plus its own IMAP PST. IMAP can't store calendar and
other items.

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Well documentation stated that you can't have a HTTP account as your default
account so if you had the Outlook Connector you still couldn't have it as
the default delivery location through the Accounts dialog. To work around
this you can create a new mail profile and directly choose the Outlook
Connector so it would end up as both your default account and default
delivery location.

I was wondering if that same method could be used on an IMAP account.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
Not sure where you are getting at, but it does automatically create
those files?

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I currently don't have an IMAP account to test with but what happens when
you create a new mail profile and directly choose to have the IMAP
account.
Does it still creates two foldersets (pst-files)? 1 for IMAP and 1
separate
pst-file?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

-----

It recreates it in Control Panel, Mail with 2007 as well.

Ok. Well, guess I'm stuck with having to keep it there? The bad thing
is, if the path ever changes for some reason, I'll never be able to
reassociate.

The problem now is that I have a PST file that is set as default.
However, no mail account is associated to it. Since I use IMAP, I
can't associate to this PST or any other PST except the one Outlook
forces (as we have seen). My IMAP accounts work but I have the folders
of this non used PST file showing up in the left pane (Mail Folders)
that I can't get rid of. I can't set any of the IMAP PST files as
default either. Any ideas?

I thought I'd try Outlook's new version but now I remember why I moved
to OE.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[Roady [MVP]]

It's an advanced method of accessing HTTP accounts offered by paid
subscriptions for Hotmail/Live accounts.

 

[brett]

Ok, I'm done. It isn't that important to me. OE works fine. Outlook
has always given me problems and that hasn't changed : (

Thanks for the help,
Brett

 

[Roady [MVP]]

Yeah, I was already afraid of that as there are not the usual default
Outlook folders which are required for lots of Outlook options to work.

As basically the IMAP store is only a cache there is no direct need to move
it either unless you have a really big IMAP store and a very small harddisk.
Although having the option to relocate it would be fun, in the end it could
only end up overcomplicating things.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
Don't think so. IMAP has always required a different PST as default
delivery location plus its own IMAP PST. IMAP can't store calendar and
other items.

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Well documentation stated that you can't have a HTTP account as your
default
account so if you had the Outlook Connector you still couldn't have it as
the default delivery location through the Accounts dialog. To work around
this you can create a new mail profile and directly choose the Outlook
Connector so it would end up as both your default account and default
delivery location.

I was wondering if that same method could be used on an IMAP account.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
Not sure where you are getting at, but it does automatically create
those files?

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--------------
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I currently don't have an IMAP account to test with but what happens
when
you create a new mail profile and directly choose to have the IMAP
account.
Does it still creates two foldersets (pst-files)? 1 for IMAP and 1
separate
pst-file?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

-----

It recreates it in Control Panel, Mail with 2007 as well.

Ok. Well, guess I'm stuck with having to keep it there? The bad thing
is, if the path ever changes for some reason, I'll never be able to
reassociate.

The problem now is that I have a PST file that is set as default.
However, no mail account is associated to it. Since I use IMAP, I
can't associate to this PST or any other PST except the one Outlook
forces (as we have seen). My IMAP accounts work but I have the folders
of this non used PST file showing up in the left pane (Mail Folders)
that I can't get rid of. I can't set any of the IMAP PST files as
default either. Any ideas?

I thought I'd try Outlook's new version but now I remember why I moved
to OE.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[Roady [MVP]]

"I have the folders of this non used PST file showing up in the left pane"
True, that is for Calendar, Contacts, Notes, Tasks support etc...

"I can't set any of the IMAP PST files as default either."
Nope, this is because it is lacking the required folders for most of the
Outlook options to work. Since subscription to any IMAP folders is optional
it doesn't provide the stable base to work on (read: required folder set).

Note that you can build your own folder listing in the Shortcuts Navigation
if the default folders really bug you.

Just curious; What is your main reason to transfer from OE to Outlook?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----

It recreates it in Control Panel, Mail with 2007 as well.

Ok. Well, guess I'm stuck with having to keep it there? The bad thing
is, if the path ever changes for some reason, I'll never be able to
reassociate.

The problem now is that I have a PST file that is set as default.
However, no mail account is associated to it. Since I use IMAP, I
can't associate to this PST or any other PST except the one Outlook
forces (as we have seen). My IMAP accounts work but I have the folders
of this non used PST file showing up in the left pane (Mail Folders)
that I can't get rid of. I can't set any of the IMAP PST files as
default either. Any ideas?

I thought I'd try Outlook's new version but now I remember why I moved
to OE.

Thanks,
Brett

 

[brett]

So the other regular PST that it will set as default, even if no mail
account is associated, is there for calendars and other Outlook
features?

I also notice "Purdge Deleted Messages" doesn't work for IMAP accounts.
Crossed out messages never go away.

Brett

 

[brett]

Just curious; What is your main reason to transfer from OE to Outlook?

I want to use the calender, address book and Office integrated
features. I also like the Rules in Outlook.

One thing that is still surprising with every release of Outlook - it
never includes support for newsgroups. OE has always had this nice
feature.

Brett

 

[Roady [MVP]]

Yes, indeed.

Purge should work though; make sure you are in the folder that you want to
purge. There should also be an autopurge options which is new in Outlook
2007. When you switch between IMAP folders it will automatically purge
deleted items.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
So the other regular PST that it will set as default, even if no mail
account is associated, is there for calendars and other Outlook
features?

I also notice "Purdge Deleted Messages" doesn't work for IMAP accounts.
Crossed out messages never go away.

Brett