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shaggy

I have an HP m7360n media center pc that has a set of video inputs on
thefront panel and I have been trying to capture some 8mm camcorder video. I
seem to be able to get the video but am not getting the audio from the tape.
I have checked it on the tv and know that there is audio. This is an old
Canon 8 mm but these tapes will not play on my Sony digital 8 for some
unknown reason or I would be using that to rip these. In audio device I am
using: Line in/mic in, audio input source: Line in 1 or 2, and Video input
source: Composite. I do hav a conexant Falcon II NTSC Video Capture that is
in the available devices area but when I pick that in the audio it hangs the
Movie Maker. I have WMM version 2.1.4026.0. Thanks for the help.
 
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J

John Inzer

shaggy said:
I have an HP m7360n media center pc that has a set of video inputs on
thefront panel and I have been trying to capture some 8mm camcorder
video. I seem to be able to get the video but am not getting the
audio from the tape. I have checked it on the tv and know that there
is audio. This is an old Canon 8 mm but these tapes will not play on
my Sony digital 8 for some unknown reason or I would be using that to
rip these. In audio device I am using: Line in/mic in, audio input
source: Line in 1 or 2, and Video input source: Composite. I do hav a
conexant Falcon II NTSC Video Capture that is in the available
devices area but when I pick that in the audio it hangs the Movie
Maker. I have WMM version 2.1.4026.0. Thanks for the help.
============================================
What if you use the Sony as a passthrough device?

Have a look at the following article:

Introduction: Why Use a Digital
Camcorder for Analog Video Capture?
http://www.videohelp.com/dvanalog


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J. Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

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This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
S

shaggy

I will check to see if mine does this but it really wasn't the high end
player. Why won't this play my old tapes though? I bought the dig8 so I could
still see these tapes. Glad I didn't throw away my old Canon.
 
J

John Inzer

shaggy said:
I will check to see if mine does this but it really wasn't the high
end player. Why won't this play my old tapes though? I bought the
dig8 so I could still see these tapes. Glad I didn't throw away my
old Canon.
===============================
I guess you read the article but there are some
suggestions on how to play the tapes.

Here's another article that may be worth a read:

Download Video to Your
Computer with Windows
Movie Maker 2
http://tinyurl.com/4fpea
or...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/moviemaker/getstarted/downloadvideo.mspx

Maybe a device like the one at the following
link would be worth looking into.

Sabrent USB 2.0 Video/Audio Capture
DVD Maker Adapter - USB 2.0, MPEG
Encoder, Plug-n-Play, Vista Ready
http://tinyurl.com/nlkumh
or
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...p?EdpNo=3504456&sku=M501-1326&srkey=usb-avcpt


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J. Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
P

PapaJohn

it sometimes depends on the options used when recording the 8mm tape.... one
recorded in Extended Play mode might not work on a digital 8 camcorder.
 
S

shaggy

My 280 doesn't support throughput. At least not that I can tell. I couldn't
tell. It didn't have any composite inputs anyway. I got hold of Sony and they
said that it is not guaranteed that it would play other tapes. That was not
explained to me when I bought the stupid thing. It is the main reason why I
stayed with 8mm format so I could play my old tapes and now I find out it
wont even play them. I made the mistake of "assuming" that the format is the
same between my canon and my sony. Just great. Well though I still am not
sure why my old canon is not sending audio to my pc. Like I said the video is
pretty good but absolutely no audio. I don't have the mute on either. I do
appreciate all the help guys.
 
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J

John Inzer

shaggy said:
My 280 doesn't support throughput. At least not that I can tell. I
couldn't tell. It didn't have any composite inputs anyway. I got hold
of Sony and they said that it is not guaranteed that it would play
other tapes. That was not explained to me when I bought the stupid
thing. It is the main reason why I stayed with 8mm format so I could
play my old tapes and now I find out it wont even play them. I made
the mistake of "assuming" that the format is the same between my
canon and my sony. Just great. Well though I still am not sure why my
old canon is not sending audio to my pc. Like I said the video is
pretty good but absolutely no audio. I don't have the mute on either.
I do appreciate all the help guys.
================================
Why not return the Sony and purchase
the hardware I suggested?

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J. Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
S

shaggy

Well this is Sony's reply:

Thank you for contacting Sony Support.

I'm sorry, DCR-TRV280 Camcorders cannot play tapes recorded in the analog
8mm or Hi8 formats. The following models of Digital 8 Camcorders cannot play
tapes recorded in the analog 8mm or Hi8 formats.

DCR-TRV130
DCR-TRV140
DCR-TRV250
DCR-TRV260
DCR-TRV265
DCR-TRV280

Thank you for choosing Sony.

Not what they told me at the store but at least I know now. I have had this
camcorder for about a year so I can't return this now. I am starting to think
that it may be the capture card that came with my computer or at least the
driver. I might try my Mom's vhsc and see if I can get audio and video off of
it. Just really perplexed about the audio output from the canon as I watched
this video just before I tried to put it on the pc. Thanks again.
 
J

John Inzer

shaggy said:
Well this is Sony's reply:

Thank you for contacting Sony Support.

I'm sorry, DCR-TRV280 Camcorders cannot play tapes recorded in the
analog 8mm or Hi8 formats. The following models of Digital 8
Camcorders cannot play tapes recorded in the analog 8mm or Hi8
formats.

DCR-TRV130
DCR-TRV140
DCR-TRV250
DCR-TRV260
DCR-TRV265
DCR-TRV280

Thank you for choosing Sony.

Not what they told me at the store but at least I know now. I have
had this camcorder for about a year so I can't return this now. I am
starting to think that it may be the capture card that came with my
computer or at least the driver. I might try my Mom's vhsc and see if
I can get audio and video off of it. Just really perplexed about the
audio output from the canon as I watched this video just before I
tried to put it on the pc. Thanks again.
=======================================
Thanks for the update.

Good luck with your project.


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J. Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
S

shaggy

I have audio!!!!! I was talking to a friend of mine and we discussed that
maybe the mixer mute was on in audio properties. It was not but when I looked
at the audio tab I saw that the sound recording default device was line in
and not the conexant falcon audio capture I switched this and viola, it works
albeit mono but I well get a splitter to fix that. When I opened WMM it was
already in the device and I set the video to composite and it worked! Thanks
for the help guys. One more thing, is there any way to save in another
format? I don't think wmv will play in a home dvd player but not sure. Thanks
again.
 
P

PapaJohn

For standard video DVDs, only MPEG2 files work... and you need to make the
discs using DVD authoring and burning software. Most of the DVD making apps
accept either wmv or DV-AVI files made by Movie Maker.

Nice going on your audio issue.
 
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S

shaggy

First off Thanks for the compliment! I will try and use IMGBurn and see if I
can get the job done with that. I didn't think WMV would play on a home dvd
player so thanks again for that info.
 
J

John Inzer

shaggy said:
First off Thanks for the compliment! I will try and use IMGBurn and
see if I can get the job done with that. I didn't think WMV would
play on a home dvd player so thanks again for that info.
====================================
When you use a .wmv file to create a DVD...
the authoring software renders the files to
the .vob format.

ImgBurn won't create a DVD from a wmv file.

Try DVD Flick:

DVD Flick
http://www.dvdflick.net/

Be sure to read the Guide:
http://www.dvdflick.net/guide.php

If you have problems downloading DVD Flick...
try the following direct link:
http://tinyurl.com/lyovkx
or...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvdflick/files/dvdflick/dvdflick_setup_1.3.0.7.exe

Save the file to a folder on your hard drive and
install from there.

Tutorials:

DVD Flick Tutorial
http://beginwithsoftware.com/videoguides/dvd-flick-guide.html

Burn Any PC Video Format into DVD
http://www.freevideoworkshop.com/dvdflicktutorial.htm

To create a basic Video DVD that should play in a free
standing DVD player...try the following...

Good luck.

First...read the DVD Flick Guide to familiarize yourself
with the program.

Open DVD Flick and insert a blank DVD in your burner.

If your computer's Autoplay window opens....just close it.

Click the Project Settings button and go to...Video /
Target format...residents of USA...choose...NTSC /
Accept.

Left click the Add title button and browse to your
Movie Clips and select the ones you want on the DVD.

You can arrange them by selecting one and then use
the Move Up and Move Down buttons.

Left click the Create DVD button / OK / Yes / Yes.

Wait while the DVD is created.

When the text "Finished Successfully" appears you
may close DVD Flick. Now you can eject your DVD
and play it in your DVD player.

At some point you may wish to purchase more
advanced software like Cyberlink, Nero, Roxio,
Ulead, etc...but at least this is a start.

Good luck.

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J. Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
S

shaggy

John,
I haven't forgotten about this. You were right about ImgBurn. It
wouldn't burn it but I tried to create an ISO and then burn it and it didn't
work either. I do have OEM Nero essentials I think it is called. So will this
take a wmv and burn it into a vob? Thanks for the help and sorry for taking
so long to get back to this I just have been extremely busy lately.
 
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John Inzer

shaggy said:
John,
I haven't forgotten about this. You were right about ImgBurn. It
wouldn't burn it but I tried to create an ISO and then burn it and it
didn't work either. I do have OEM Nero essentials I think it is
called. So will this take a wmv and burn it into a vob? Thanks for
the help and sorry for taking so long to get back to this I just have
been extremely busy lately.
=================================
If your version of Nero includes NeroVision...
that's the Nero app that burns DVDs.

Nero Vision 4 DVD Authoring Guide
http://tinyurl.com/3xkzqh
or...
http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/Nero_Vision_4_DVD_Authoring_Guide_page1.html

Nero Vision 5 DVD Authoring Guide
http://tinyurl.com/2jkcjt
or...
http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/Nero_Vision_5_DVD_Authoring_Guide_page1.html

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J. Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 

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