Most refillable printer that is sold today?

D

DK

All those easily refillable Canons are all discontinued and now
sell for >$300. My daughter needs an inexpensive printer that
can be refilled easily. Quality is not paramount, plain paper
printing 99% of the time.

What's out there today?

DK
 
J

Jan Alter

DK said:
All those easily refillable Canons are all discontinued and now
sell for >$300. My daughter needs an inexpensive printer that
can be refilled easily. Quality is not paramount, plain paper
printing 99% of the time.

What's out there today?

DK


Epson still sells the C88+ for about $110. The model is already 6 or so
years old but that's also what makes it viable for refilling. With a chip
resetter or a set of auto reset chips on the cartridges its pretty easy to
refill if you're insisting on an inkjet setup. Photo quality is pretty good
as well. Otherwise, if color isn't needed I'd definitely go with a laser
printer for economy sake.

Jan Alter
(e-mail address removed)
 
B

Bob Eager

Inexpensive laser.

Exactly what I've just done. The bulk of my printing is monochrome, and I
use an HP LaserJet 4M+ for that. Cheap to run! Not much more than 1p/page
on toner, and that's real HP stuff.

I got fed up with the inkjet clogging up and drying out...it was costing
a fortune in new cartridges. I now have a cheap colour laser and it's
fine.
 
P

Possible

Exactly what I've just done. The bulk of my printing is monochrome, and I
use an HP LaserJet 4M+ for that. Cheap to run! Not much more than 1p/page
on toner, and that's real HP stuff.

I got fed up with the inkjet clogging up and drying out...it was costing
a fortune in new cartridges. I now have a cheap colour laser and it's
fine.


I brought a Brother HL2240D a full duplex printer for $58 new From Noel
Leemings did a bit of arm twisting plus a $30 cash back from Brother.

Harvey Norman had them on special at $80 problem was they only had
Demos left, so use the Advert with Noel Lemming to see if they could
match the price, the did and also got the $30 cash back from Brother.


A new 3000 page toner cost me $35 from Trademe

They only come fitted with a 700 page toner at 5% coverage and that a
Big joke as most printing will be a least be 50% coverage.

They are a good printer as a lot of companies use them as a commercial
printer..

HL2240DW is the WiFi model.
 
P

Possible

Possible said:
I brought a Brother HL2240D a full duplex printer for $58 new From Noel
Leemings did a bit of arm twisting plus a $30 cash back from Brother.

Harvey Norman had them on special at $80 problem was they only had
Demos left, so use the Advert with Noel Lemming to see if they could
match the price, the did and also got the $30 cash back from Brother.


A new 3000 page toner cost me $35 from Trademe

They only come fitted with a 700 page toner at 5% coverage and that a
Big joke as most printing will be a least be 50% coverage.

50% would require an enormous amount of graphics or pictures. Very few pages
would be anywhere near 50%.
An average page would be closer to 4 or 5%.

Coverage is NOT the percentage of the page that has printing on it.

Coverage is the percentage of the page that is actually covered with TONER (or
ink).
Very approximately, an A4 page that is filled with non-bold upper case H,
double spaced is 5%.

A more accurate page is here which is approximately 5%
http://www.supermediastore.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ISO19752SamplePage250.jpg
which is adopted by many printer manufacturers as a test page (it is ISO/IEC
accredited). The advantage is that it is a standard so that comparisons can be
made between different printers and manufacturers.

[SNIP]
Tony


I still don't buy that my Printer used for Casual printing lasted about
3 week say 100 pages in total..

I've seen references to 5% coverage and there is basically nothing on
the Page at all.


Things get miss quoted or fudged around and depends if you are standing
on your head..
 
D

DK

All those easily refillable Canons are all discontinued and now
sell for >$300. My daughter needs an inexpensive printer that
can be refilled easily. Quality is not paramount, plain paper
printing 99% of the time.

Thanks everyone for the replies but I have to say they are pretty
depressing. It seems like the business model of expensive cartridges
has won ad there isn't anything out there today that can compete with it.

DK
 
C

Charlie+

Thanks everyone for the replies but I have to say they are pretty
depressing. It seems like the business model of expensive cartridges
has won ad there isn't anything out there today that can compete with it.
Yep agree, long may my IP4000 keep trucking, its been brilliant for
years and refilled ad nauseam. Probably no more proper drivers for more
modern than XP OS's though! C+
 
P

Possible

Possible said:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:17:55 -0400, David H. Lipman wrote:

From: "DK" <[email protected]>

All those easily refillable Canons are all discontinued and now sell
for >$300. My daughter needs an inexpensive printer that can be
refilled easily. Quality is not paramount, plain paper printing 99% of
the time.

What's out there today?

DK

Inexpensive laser.

Exactly what I've just done. The bulk of my printing is monochrome, and I
use an HP LaserJet 4M+ for that. Cheap to run! Not much more than 1p/page
on toner, and that's real HP stuff.

I got fed up with the inkjet clogging up and drying out...it was costing
a fortune in new cartridges. I now have a cheap colour laser and it's
fine.


I brought a Brother HL2240D a full duplex printer for $58 new From Noel
Leemings did a bit of arm twisting plus a $30 cash back from Brother.

Harvey Norman had them on special at $80 problem was they only had
Demos left, so use the Advert with Noel Lemming to see if they could
match the price, the did and also got the $30 cash back from Brother.


A new 3000 page toner cost me $35 from Trademe

They only come fitted with a 700 page toner at 5% coverage and that a
Big joke as most printing will be a least be 50% coverage.

50% would require an enormous amount of graphics or pictures. Very few pages
would be anywhere near 50%.
An average page would be closer to 4 or 5%.

Coverage is NOT the percentage of the page that has printing on it.

Coverage is the percentage of the page that is actually covered with TONER
(or
ink).
Very approximately, an A4 page that is filled with non-bold upper case H,
double spaced is 5%.

A more accurate page is here which is approximately 5%
http://www.supermediastore.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ISO19752SamplePage250.jpg
which is adopted by many printer manufacturers as a test page (it is ISO/IEC
accredited). The advantage is that it is a standard so that comparisons can
be
made between different printers and manufacturers.

[SNIP]
Tony
As I thought you are Wrong


http://blog.tonercartridgedepot.com/2008/01/17/what-5-percent-coverage-page-looks-like/


or this


http://www.lexmark.com/en_US/produc...understanding-print-cartridge-page-yields.pdf


I ve been servesing printers since you were a Boy..?
 
B

Brian

They only come fitted with a 700 page toner at 5% coverage and that a
Big joke as most printing will be a least be 50% coverage.

But IS it 50%?

Don't forget that the unprinted area on a page is not just large blank
areas, margins, etc. that don't have ANY printing on. It also includes
spaces between lines, gaps between words, and even the white space in
individual letters, such as the center of letters 'O' 'D' & 'Q' 'V', and
the loops in 'B' 'R' 'p' etc. All that white space soon adds up!
 
D

DK

I think it's what you are looking for
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/printers_multifunction/photo_in
kjet_printers/pixma_ip7220#Overview .

I see. I was looking for MG5420 as an alternative. The evil non-transparent
black cartridges + chip. Not exactly easily refillable. I think it pretty much would
require non-OEM cartridges. Not a biggie if non-OEM versions work well.
Can someone recommend chipped 250/251 cartridges that have
transparent walls? And that work really well?

DK
 
Y

Yianni

I see. I was looking for MG5420 as an alternative. The evil
non-transparent
black cartridges + chip. Not exactly easily refillable. I think it pretty
much would
require non-OEM cartridges. Not a biggie if non-OEM versions work well.

I suggest you to refill the oem cartridges, it's not a big deal if you know
what to do (if you know the transparent cartridges, the not transparent
would be easy too). Or you can just fill only the sponge chamber (1/2 of the
total capacity), you just place the cartridges upside down and drop ink into
the outlet hole. Let the sponge absorb about 3-4 ml of ink.
 

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