More Peer 2 Peer Troubles

D

David

Problems with a peer to peer network (With New Note Apr 25th)

I have used my machines in P2P for a long time, using various IP's between
them all without problem. Only the Host has been connected to the internet,
this is the way I wanted it for security. This has been fine, but now I have
tried unsuccessfully for quite a while to interconnect the Client(s) to the
internet so as to directly link with the internet mainly just to register
new software with MS.



I have tried a number of methods, quite a number. The main setup is an
incoming splitter lifts off the voice circuit from the ADSL modem router
(SpeedTouch 536), the ADSL feed into it's own NIC on the host. Then a 2nd
NIC connects to a switch to stream down to clients. Kerio does not give ANY
trouble as a firewall.



This is all fine except that now I would like to access the internet from
all machines, not just the host. The usual setup has not used ICS on the
host, nor have I used "bridge mode", well that is until now when I have
tried various configs including these setups. Need I say that I have used
both static and dynamic cons, DHCP, no DHCP etc, ICS up, bridge mode etc.



Platform: All machines XP Pro etc

Host: Two NIC's, one set to Incoming modem, TCP/IP 10.0.0.1/255.0.0.0, the
NIC hardware address IP set 10.0.0.1.



2nd NIC set to TCP/IP 192.168.0.1 /255.255.255.0 NIC hardware IP
192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0.

All machines set as "MSHOME" workgroup

In TCP/Adv/Wins NetBios is set over TCP/IP

If I set the TCP/IP manually then I also set the DNS to the local ISP.

New note Apr 25th

IPCONFIG /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : boris

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : qld.bigpond.net.au



Ethernet adapter Home Net:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 4C-00-10-20-0F-BD

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138



Ethernet adapter Bigpond:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-01-6C-A9-AA-C3

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138



I hope someone out there has the time to wade thru the above. It seems to me
that simply put the prob is in the multihomed (host) machine with one NIC
not talking to the second NIC. You will have noted that I have moded the
Registry HKLM...EnableRouter (now) 1

Many thanks

Dave
 
R

Robert L [MS-MVP]

You should not use two default gateway in the ICS host. remove the default gateway from inside NIC.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
Problems with a peer to peer network (With New Note Apr 25th)

I have used my machines in P2P for a long time, using various IP's between
them all without problem. Only the Host has been connected to the internet,
this is the way I wanted it for security. This has been fine, but now I have
tried unsuccessfully for quite a while to interconnect the Client(s) to the
internet so as to directly link with the internet mainly just to register
new software with MS.



I have tried a number of methods, quite a number. The main setup is an
incoming splitter lifts off the voice circuit from the ADSL modem router
(SpeedTouch 536), the ADSL feed into it's own NIC on the host. Then a 2nd
NIC connects to a switch to stream down to clients. Kerio does not give ANY
trouble as a firewall.



This is all fine except that now I would like to access the internet from
all machines, not just the host. The usual setup has not used ICS on the
host, nor have I used "bridge mode", well that is until now when I have
tried various configs including these setups. Need I say that I have used
both static and dynamic cons, DHCP, no DHCP etc, ICS up, bridge mode etc.



Platform: All machines XP Pro etc

Host: Two NIC's, one set to Incoming modem, TCP/IP 10.0.0.1/255.0.0.0, the
NIC hardware address IP set 10.0.0.1.



2nd NIC set to TCP/IP 192.168.0.1 /255.255.255.0 NIC hardware IP
192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0.

All machines set as "MSHOME" workgroup

In TCP/Adv/Wins NetBios is set over TCP/IP

If I set the TCP/IP manually then I also set the DNS to the local ISP.

New note Apr 25th

IPCONFIG /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : boris

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : qld.bigpond.net.au



Ethernet adapter Home Net:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 4C-00-10-20-0F-BD

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138



Ethernet adapter Bigpond:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-01-6C-A9-AA-C3

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138



I hope someone out there has the time to wade thru the above. It seems to me
that simply put the prob is in the multihomed (host) machine with one NIC
not talking to the second NIC. You will have noted that I have moded the
Registry HKLM...EnableRouter (now) 1

Many thanks

Dave
 
D

David

Thanks Bob, That 2nd Gateway is not in use, somewhere while printing out
all this it got listed, but No I only have (1) one gateway in use in the NIC
outgoing to the Modem/Router,
Anymore ideas please!
Dave
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

"David" said:
Problems with a peer to peer network (With New Note Apr 25th)

I have used my machines in P2P for a long time, using various IP's between
them all without problem. Only the Host has been connected to the internet,
this is the way I wanted it for security. This has been fine, but now I have
tried unsuccessfully for quite a while to interconnect the Client(s) to the
internet so as to directly link with the internet mainly just to register
new software with MS.

I have tried a number of methods, quite a number. The main setup is an
incoming splitter lifts off the voice circuit from the ADSL modem router
(SpeedTouch 536), the ADSL feed into it's own NIC on the host. Then a 2nd
NIC connects to a switch to stream down to clients. Kerio does not give ANY
trouble as a firewall.

This is all fine except that now I would like to access the internet from
all machines, not just the host. The usual setup has not used ICS on the
host, nor have I used "bridge mode", well that is until now when I have
tried various configs including these setups. Need I say that I have used
both static and dynamic cons, DHCP, no DHCP etc, ICS up, bridge mode etc.

Platform: All machines XP Pro etc

Host: Two NIC's, one set to Incoming modem, TCP/IP 10.0.0.1/255.0.0.0, the
NIC hardware address IP set 10.0.0.1.

2nd NIC set to TCP/IP 192.168.0.1 /255.255.255.0 NIC hardware IP
192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0.

All machines set as "MSHOME" workgroup

In TCP/Adv/Wins NetBios is set over TCP/IP

If I set the TCP/IP manually then I also set the DNS to the local ISP.

New note Apr 25th

IPCONFIG /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : boris
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : qld.bigpond.net.au
Click to expand...
Ethernet adapter Home Net:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 4C-00-10-20-0F-BD
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138

Ethernet adapter Bigpond:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-01-6C-A9-AA-C3
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138

I hope someone out there has the time to wade thru the above. It seems to me
that simply put the prob is in the multihomed (host) machine with one NIC
not talking to the second NIC. You will have noted that I have moded the
Registry HKLM...EnableRouter (now) 1

Many thanks

Dave
Click to expand...

Have you enabled ICS on the host's Bigpond connection? If not, enable
it.

I assume that you haven't, because the Home Net connection is
configured incorrectly. Home Net shouldn't have a Default Gateway or
DNS Server specified.

If you've already enabled ICS, disable it and then re-enable it.

However, I don't think that you need to use ICS or have a host
computer. According to this web page, the SpeedTouch 536 is a
multi-user gateway with a built-in Internet sharing capability:

http://www.speedtouch.com/prod536.htm

You should be able to connect the network switch to the SpeedTouch's
LAN port to give Internet access to all the computers.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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