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[Leythos]

So is there a cop sitting at his pc 24/7 to make sure he doesn't post to
this group?

Do you not understand that computers can be used to Automate functions?

I know he posted highjack this logs and everyone pissed and moaned about it.
I doubt all the other crap though.

Then you didn't look at much - he was caught, red-handed, pirating
another persons code and hacking the persons name out of it and
replacing it with his name - and many of us have the before / after code
on file.

 

[Jimbo]

Hmmmm. so that gets you banned from an ms ng? How much stuff has ms
highjacked and, slapped it's name on said stuff.?
I haven't been around in a few months that's why this is news to me. As far
as stealing code that can be very subjective and......who cares...not me.
My literal question actually, is how do you ban an individual without
banning a whole domain?

 

[Leythos]

Hmmmm. so that gets you banned from an ms ng? How much stuff has ms
highjacked and, slapped it's name on said stuff.?

What does that have to do with the question that was asked?

Why would anyone question the reasons/actions of a vendor to moderate
it's own services?

I haven't been around in a few months that's why this is news to me. As far
as stealing code that can be very subjective and......who cares...not me.

Stealing is not subjective, and he left all the hacked code exposed to
the public, so, unless you are a pirate yourself it is a big deal to
most.

My literal question actually, is how do you ban an individual without
banning a whole domain?

You can BAN by nickname, IP, or login. There are other methods, but they
vary by vendor/site.

 

[Jimbo]

I did not know that, well I did sort of. But to beat a dead horse, if he was
inclined to, all the aforementioned tactics could be easily worked around (I
assume, don't really know), so short of serving him with papers from a judge
he could still post here.
I say this because I am surprised(well not really) that all of the MVP's
here(and their sycophants) all got together and put enough pressure on the
powers that be and decided to ban this guy.
Now take Kurt.He gives somewhat good info but continuously rags on ms. Why
not ban him? Or how about that moron Andrew who probably has done more to
mess up peoples computers than anyone I know(exaggerating).Then there is
miss prepaous tick or whatever here name was, the most foul mouthed
worthless troll I have ever seen. (NO exaggeration there)
I wasn't here to see it so I don't know. I do know that you mentioned
several things, none of which should you get banned for.

 

[Jimbo]

BTW...You haven't changed. Accusing people of piracy(arrrrrrr matey)
stealing, and kissing ms's arse like you love to do.
If you talked to people like you did here IRL , you wouldn't last five
minutes, and don't say that you do because you don't. People who have an
attitude toward others like yours die early, which is the way it should be.
Have a nice day.

 

[Leythos]

I did not know that, well I did sort of. But to beat a dead horse, if he was
inclined to, all the aforementioned tactics could be easily worked around (I
assume, don't really know), so short of serving him with papers from a judge
he could still post here.

Yes, he could, but then we would find him again. As an example, when I
read Usenet I only show the Subject and Date stamp, I never see the
posters name unless I expose the headers (since it doesn't really matter
to me who is posting), but I'm able to see the little kids posts almost
every time because he doesn't change his ways. So, he would be reported
and blocked again.

As many of us know how Usenet works (although fewer and fewer each day),
we see it as more of a slap-on-the-hand type thing. It's not that he
can't post, it's that he had to do something different and can't use
that name again. If he comes back (and he has) under a new nick he can
post until he violates the charter again.

MS is under no obligation to let anyone post.

I say this because I am surprised(well not really) that all of the MVP's
here(and their sycophants) all got together and put enough pressure on the
powers that be and decided to ban this guy.

We didn't have to put any pressure on anyone at MS. He did himself in.

Now take Kurt.He gives somewhat good info but continuously rags on ms. Why
not ban him?

He has had posts removed - according to himself. He walks a very fine
line with them at times, but his actions are different that butts were.

Or how about that moron Andrew who probably has done more to
mess up peoples computers than anyone I know(exaggerating).Then there is
miss prepaous tick or whatever here name was, the most foul mouthed
worthless troll I have ever seen. (NO exaggeration there)
I wasn't here to see it so I don't know. I do know that you mentioned
several things, none of which should you get banned for.

Getting banned/posts yanked is not my call or yours, it's up to the MS
admins as it's there server.

For most of us, and people posting from non-MS servers, the ban/posts
don't have any impact as we still see anything posted from other servers
and his old posts.

 

[Leythos]

BTW...You haven't changed. Accusing people of piracy(arrrrrrr matey)
stealing, and kissing ms's arse like you love to do.
If you talked to people like you did here IRL , you wouldn't last five
minutes, and don't say that you do because you don't.

Nice reply, but I don't kiss MS's arse, I just know how to use their
products and don't have any more problems with them than I do Fedora
Core products.

Pirates are just simple minded people that believe they are right no
matter what the excuse - they steal software and other things, but they
bitch a storm up when it happens to them.... If the shoe fits. If you
believe that stolen code that's been modified by the thief becomes the
property of the thief, then you have a very bad belief system.

People who have an
attitude toward others like yours die early, which is the way it should be.
Have a nice day.

HA HA HA HA - if that was true, kurt would already be dead

 

[Thomas]

Asking for a log will not get you banned. Leythos is just a liar. I was
banned for the wrong reason and MS has apologized to me and the issue has
been settled. I do not want to bring it up again. Just remember, don't
believe anything Leythos tells you, he does not know what happened. I have
been posting to this group for a long time as a different person. I do this
now to keep Leythos from stalking me and as you see it works. He will post a
response to this along with a few other trolls who now know who I am but
that's ok because I will just change my name again and this group will
continue as before.

So is there a cop sitting at his pc 24/7 to make sure he doesn't post to
this group?
I know he posted highjack this logs and everyone pissed and moaned about
it. I doubt all the other crap though.

 

[Leythos]

Asking for a log will not get you banned. Leythos is just a liar. I was
banned for the wrong reason and MS has apologized to me and the issue has
been settled. I do not want to bring it up again.

No it hasn't or you would be posting under your old name again instead
if hiding under other names all the time.

While I'm sure that they will lift the ban at some time, none of us have
seen anything to indicate you were banned for any wrong reason or that
MS has/would apologize to you for anything.

Just remember, don't
believe anything Leythos tells you, he does not know what happened. I have
been posting to this group for a long time as a different person. I do this
now to keep Leythos from stalking me and as you see it works.

I've never "stalked", and I always post the same type of response to
anyone that does what you do - it's not about you (as you are not worth
it), it's about protecting unsuspecting people from thiefs and from
security threats that you present.

He will post a
response to this along with a few other trolls who now know who I am but
that's ok because I will just change my name again and this group will
continue as before.

I told you months ago to change your nick name and post without the
security threats and you would have no problems - and you refused, then
you started posting under other names without the threats and nothing
was said. As I said before, I don't look at the names, I only look at
the subject/content of threads I'm interested in and if someone posts
direct links to files that they are not hosting properly on some no-name
private site, instead of the vendors links, then I will post a reply
about it. That's all it has ever been about - until you stole that chaps
code and tried to pass it off as your own.

 

[RA]

Just one question.... If MS has apologized and the issue settled, why do you
keep changing your name?
Leythos and everyone else can see you and respond no matter which name you
post under.

 

[Thomas]

Leythos does not know it is me, therefore he does not respond. He tries to
predict the posts he thinks I will reply to namely spyware stuff so he goes
ahead and posts what he thinks I will answer with his saved answer about
where to download from. I have made well over 30 posts last week, including
some to spyware. He did not respond to any of them because he had no idea
who I was. Yet he says he only responds when I post links but he's already
responded to this thread now that he knows it is me. The guy is obsessed.

 

[RA]

Your answer make no sense whatsoever.
You sound like a person I know who is mentally ill and has delusions about
himself and his importance to society. When he goes off his meds he talks
just like you do. He thinks he is talking clearly and making perfect sense
but to everyone else he is obviously lacking a necessary chemical. I would
seek professional help if I were you.
If Leythos were really an obsessed stalker you would be dead by now.

 

[Thomas]

You know if you would have stayed out of this thread and did some lurking
you would know what I am talking about. As it turns out you don't.

Such little minds.

 

[RA]

As it turns out, I, along with many others, have been watching you here and
other places for weeks and you appear to be mentally ill.

 

[Steve Shattuck]

Hi ... I understand this is a open group forum which is for all user
but , Doesn't someone from microsoft control whats gets posted in this
groups forum ? If so , Do you think as a suggestion people that post
with future day/time can be blocker from posting and the only way they
could be allow back if they promise never to do it again , Also why do
the user response to these people that post these type of post , If no
one would ever response to them , Then maybe they wouldn't do such ...

PS : I believe there is a very small percentage like 5 % that don't
realize their date/time zone is wrong but , For those 95% knows what
they are doing and they do it just to tick people off

Not everyone has their newsgroup messages displayed in a manner that is
seriously impacted by a wrong date, so it is presumptuous for you to think
that you speak for 95% of us. It is also pretty naive to think the most
people do this intentionally. As for a moderator, the only thing I notice
is that occasionally when there is a totally inappropriate message posted,
it get blocked (i.e you can see the message header, but not the text. And
the assumption that 5% of messages have a time error is GROSSLY
overestimated. Other than that, ROCK ON!

 

[John Eddy [MSFT]]

Why was he banned?

Microsoft does not block people from posting to the newsgroups hosted on
msnews.microsoft.com for any reason other than violations of the Terms of
Use (http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx) or the Rules of Conduct
(http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx). There are no
official moderators of the newsgroups hosted on msnews.microsoft.com (in
either the traditional Usenet sense or in the more recent web forum
parlance) however we regularly review complaints sent using the Contact Us
link (http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=2028320).

While I welcome people to contact me directly, I can not guarantee personal
responses to any mails.

John Eddy
Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator

 

[Leythos]

Leythos does not know it is me, therefore he does not respond.

What part of I never look at the names of the posters in the threads
before I open them do you seem to not understand.

He tries to
predict the posts he thinks I will reply to namely spyware stuff so he goes
ahead and posts what he thinks I will answer with his saved answer about
where to download from.

Nope, I only post in threads that I'm interested in, and I only read
threads that I'm interested in - there are too many threads in a given
day to be following ANYONE around like you claim.

I have made well over 30 posts last week, including
some to spyware. He did not respond to any of them because he had no idea
who I was.

Dufus, I saw posts from you in the last week. As long as you didn't
comment to me or pull your same lame BS I didn't see any need to reply -
and that's been what I've been telling you all along. I have no issues
with you posting as long as you are not violating the charter, not
posting links to files you don't have permission to host, and you are
not posting links to stolen files.

Yet he says he only responds when I post links but he's already
responded to this thread now that he knows it is me. The guy is obsessed.

I was posting to this thread before you started moron.

Again, so you will understand, you're nothing to follow, nothing but a
petty thief with no skills, nothing to me. As long as you don't violate
the norms and vendors works I don't care what you post.

Go back to posting as butts if you want, I never looked for your name to
start with. Do you understand now?

 

[Jimbo]

From the reasons you gave for banning pcbutts, I can see you are clearly
FOS, and you made a fool out of yourself for the suggestion.. As I thought,
he wasn't actually "banned" as that would be impossible. All your other
explanations are simply meaningless.

 

[Leythos]

From the reasons you gave for banning pcbutts, I can see you are clearly
FOS, and you made a fool out of yourself for the suggestion.. As I thought,
he wasn't actually "banned" as that would be impossible. All your other
explanations are simply meaningless.

Jimbo, just because you can't read what the MS Admin posted and
understand it, it doesn't mean that it's not true. Butts violated the
TOS for the MS Usenet server, so his posts are/were yanked. I'm sure
that at some date it will roll off the ban list, and may have already,
but it was clear to all of us that he was no longer able to post as his
old nickname for a long time.

Please explain where I've made a fool out of anything in this thread?

If you check, you might see that I didn't bring up Butts in this thread,
Alias mentioned him. Then you asked WHY was he banned and I explained
the resons as I understood them according to the email I've had with the
MS moderator, that's all.

As I posted before, when you asked, here is what did him in: "Foul and
abusive language violating MS rules for posting, posting under
multiple nicknames to try and avoid detection as pcbutts1, violating
security norms, asking people to post HiJack logs in the forum."

 

[Jimbo]

Who cares. Any number of people in any given day violate any number of the
tos or any other rules. You all just don't like his style. Tough. He still
posts here any way and there is nothing you are going to do about it and
that's the way it should be.