XP Newsgroups a little confusing to anyone else?

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Guest

Hello all good peoples

I hope I'm in the right forum for this :-

I've recently had major problems with my computer, and have made many posts to this newsgroups looking for help. I'd like to say that the people who post here have been incredibly helpful, and have helped me to solve a lot of problems. However, I find the structure of this newsgroup to be very un-helpful, and have some issues that I would like to hear your opinions on

Firstly, why are we so limited in our searching? I loose posts all the time. You can only search by key word, and I don't even know if it’s a title search or a full text search. I have to keep a file of my posts and replies just to find them again. And this list has to include date, forum and an exact copy of my text to be of any use. If I don't do this, I have to slog through a dozen different forums, try to distinguish between a million identical postings. And even when I do, my search results seem to be organized in a strangely arbitrary manner. Why can't I search by author (other than when I'm already looking at one of his or her posts), by date, by title or keyword or all of the above?

Secondly, if you're looking for advice, most of the newsgroups seem redundant in that we have both general and specific forums placed side by side instead of in a hierarchical fashion. Any symptoms I have could logically apply to a dozen different forums, to a greater or lesser extend based on how familiar I am with the problem. If we have a media newsgroup, why do we also have separate music, video and picture newsgroups? Why do we have a basics and a new user's forum? And why would anyone use any of these forums when one could just post to the Expert Zone and theoretically get the best advice in one shot

Finally, since there is obviously so much redundancy in both question and reply postings, and because our search engine makes finding specific things so difficult, wouldn't it make sense to keep a 'best of' section, where people can search for previous threads that might already have answered their questions? How would I know whether or not this or any topic has already been discussed a million times, unless I had the time to try every forum, and was able to think of every possible keyword by which to search for it

I don't know. Maybe I missed the instructions somewhere. Maybe everybody else is just used to the set up, and actually understands why forums are divided up the way they are...and maybe y'all like not being able to find your own posts, and the lot

Paul of the Paris of the Midwest.
 
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Nick

1st...you can sort by more than just "keywords".....take some time to look
around for these options..
2nd..in the time you took to post...create...this whatever post...you could
have searched...read and learned something....
 
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Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)

Paul said:
(snip)
Firstly, why are we so limited in our searching?
I loose posts all the time.

Hi

You could switch to use a proper newsgroup reader (e.g. Outlook
Express) instead of using the Web interface to the newsgroups,
more about this here:

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]


Also note that the posts are also available at the Google newsgroup
archive (they are stored there 4-6 hours after they are posted to a
newsgroup):

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_ugroup=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general


Using Google newsgroup search is superior to anything else when it
comes to searching in newsgroups.
 
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Guest

Maybe I am missing something real obvious. But I cannot figure out a way to search a news group using OE, or Outlook

I swear I have tried to do a search on seach and it gives too much to be meaningful. None having to do with newsgroup searchs. I am not searching for a newsgroup I want to search a newsgroup. I am using the "not as good as a real news reader html interface" and at least here I can search.

If you can help please do, if not please don't respond. I get all the attitude at work that I need.

Thanks

Skiph
 
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HillBillyBuddhist

Skiph said:
Maybe I am missing something real obvious. But I cannot figure out a way
to search a news group using OE, or Outlook.
I swear I have tried to do a search on seach and it gives too much to be
meaningful. None having to do with newsgroup searchs. I am not searching for
a newsgroup I want to search a newsgroup. I am using the "not as good as a
real news reader html interface" and at least here I can search.
If you can help please do, if not please don't respond. I get all the attitude at work that I need.

Thanks,

Skiph

In Outlook Express click Edit> find. (CTRL+SHIFT+F will get you there too)

You have a wide variety of search criteria. From, To, by subject or by text
in the body of messages. You can limit the search by date range and if the
message contains attachments or is flagged. You can search a single news
group or all the groups subscribed to on a given News server.

--
D

I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
See store for details. :)

Remove shoes to E-mail.
 
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)

Open Outlook Express, go to the newsgroup of your desire, on the OE toolbar,
click find, you will notice at the top of the box that opens there's a filed
entitled "Look in:" and next to it is the newsgroup you are currently
accessing, below you can either look for posts from an individual by typing
the name in the "From" box, look for posts, to an Individual by typing the
name of the person in the "To" box or you can search by Subject or keywords
in the body of the message by inputting them in the Message space. Be sure
to set the date parameters, received before and received after.

If you don't want to search the designated newsgroup, click the browse
button in the find message box to search a different group.
 
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*Vanguard*

"Skiph" said in news:[email protected]:
Maybe I am missing something real obvious. But I cannot figure out a
way to search a news group using OE, or Outlook.
<snip>

Sometimes I find the search function in OE too limiting. It can be
easier to just go to http://groups.google.com and perform an advanced
search there. However, it seems to take longer for posts to appear in
Google Groups than on msnews.microsoft.com or my ISP's news server. It
might be 4 hours before a post shows up at Google.
 

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