Model: WD5000AADS

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umwhat

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid ... I bought a new hard
drive and installed it properly to the best of my abilities and probably
installed it correctly. The first thing I did when installing Windows XP was
format the hard drive but Windows stopped installing and gave a message
something like, Windows can not finish the install. Is there a type of
problem associated with this error message. I attempted to install XP again
and began the format as before and the installation skipped that part of
install and continued to install and finished ok.
Later after a completed install with drivers and SP3 there is ometimes an
error message, firmware indicates(or similar)detected cmos battery failure. I
installed a new cmos battery , matsushima brand, and the message still
appears during start. A reboot loads Windows ok. Hi.


Please, when you describe a problem that has error messages, be sure
to exactly quote all the error messages verbatim, not "something like"
or "or similar."
 
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umwhat

I did not check up on the error message when it happened and forgot the exact
words but it was a short message very similar to ...Windows... or only,
install...can not finish... and the choices to Quit were on the screen. The
bios defaults were not loaded and I suppose a good idea would be to load the
defaults before installing XP and I thought maybe that was the problem.
I can run a diagnostics on the hard drive soon. It is installed a computer I
sold to someone and he has it in his home. Because it booted into Windows ok
and he was in a hurry I let him take it. But the hard drive has a 3 year
warranty and I informed the seller.
I am still interested to find out what the problem may be.
 
T

Tim Meddick

I doubt whether this error message has anything to do with your hard drive or the
Window's installation problem you had.

It is more likely to do with a rubbish battery.

On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC plugged-in when it's
switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.

When the power that the battery provides goes below a certain level, the data in the
CMOS memory is degraded and you get an error message similar to :

"CMOS Checksum bad / CMOS Battery Failure - Please Replace Battery"...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
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glee

Tim Meddick said:
snip
On replacing the battery it sometimes helps if you keep the PC
plugged-in when it's switched off, as, this way, it keeps charging.
snip

I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)
 
T

Tim Meddick

I wouldn't have said that! - You understood right enough.

Certainly - whenever even "thinking" about taking off the back cover of your PC it
should, most definitely, be UNPLUGGED!

However, as you so rightly determined, what I meant was that if you leave the PC
plugged in when not in use, then the CMOS battery will be kept charged.

Keeping the PC plugged in (when not in use) also has the added effect keeping the
CMOS data alive even when the battery is defective.

Otherwise, unplugging (when the PC is off) will wipe out the CMOS data in a machine
with a defective [or no] battery, and you would have to reset the data in it each
time and the machine may not even work at all.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
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umwhat

Hi folks.
I am sitting at my computer with the second hard drive of the same model
number on my desk. The same computer is producing the same symptoms as the
first hard drive during an XP Home install. The computer was working ok
before with a smaller hard drive.
I searched google and found many people reporting problems with this model
hard drive and many other Western Digital hard drives. An XP install fails
with a "can not finish formatting the hard drive" message.
From what little I have seen about the problems is the stick arm thing gets
stuck in the read position, something like that.
The hard drive is going back to the trader with some evidence of a bad hard
drive reputation, for a refund.


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Tim Meddick said:
I wouldn't have said that! - You understood right enough.

Certainly - whenever even "thinking" about taking off the back cover of your PC it
should, most definitely, be UNPLUGGED!

However, as you so rightly determined, what I meant was that if you leave the PC
plugged in when not in use, then the CMOS battery will be kept charged.

Keeping the PC plugged in (when not in use) also has the added effect keeping the
CMOS data alive even when the battery is defective.

Otherwise, unplugging (when the PC is off) will wipe out the CMOS data in a machine
with a defective [or no] battery, and you would have to reset the data in it each
time and the machine may not even work at all.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




glee said:
I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)

.
 
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umwhat

By the way, it was the cheapest 500GB hard drive available on the auction
website, a new hard drive that is.



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....scribble scribble scribble...


Tim Meddick said:
I wouldn't have said that! - You understood right enough.

Certainly - whenever even "thinking" about taking off the back cover of your PC it
should, most definitely, be UNPLUGGED!

However, as you so rightly determined, what I meant was that if you leave the PC
plugged in when not in use, then the CMOS battery will be kept charged.

Keeping the PC plugged in (when not in use) also has the added effect keeping the
CMOS data alive even when the battery is defective.

Otherwise, unplugging (when the PC is off) will wipe out the CMOS data in a machine
with a defective [or no] battery, and you would have to reset the data in it each
time and the machine may not even work at all.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




glee said:
I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)

.
 
U

umwhat

I received a replacement hard drive. I installed the hard drive into the
computer the first hard drive was installed on and this drive has failed an
XP install an error message reads, "format could not finish" , sorry I missed
it exactly again. So I am asking for another replacement hard drive. These
drives are sold with a 3 year warranty. These hard drives were selling and
still are selling for the lowest price on the auction site. Google tells me
Western Digital hard drives similar to and the same model as this model
WD50000AADS get the arn thing stuck in the read position. Installs are ok
with other hard drives.


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....scribble scribble scribble...


Tim Meddick said:
I wouldn't have said that! - You understood right enough.

Certainly - whenever even "thinking" about taking off the back cover of your PC it
should, most definitely, be UNPLUGGED!

However, as you so rightly determined, what I meant was that if you leave the PC
plugged in when not in use, then the CMOS battery will be kept charged.

Keeping the PC plugged in (when not in use) also has the added effect keeping the
CMOS data alive even when the battery is defective.

Otherwise, unplugging (when the PC is off) will wipe out the CMOS data in a machine
with a defective [or no] battery, and you would have to reset the data in it each
time and the machine may not even work at all.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)




glee said:
I'm not sure what you are meaning here, Tim. If you mean, AFTER you
replace the CMOS battery it is a good idea to keep the computer plugged
in when it's switched off, then yes that's true.

However, what you wrote can be interpreted to mean you are suggesting
that the computer be kept plugged in WHILE replacing the battery, which
is a very bad idea. I just wanted to clarify that for anyone having a
semantics problem.

The "On" at the beginning of the sentence indicates that you mean the
former, but you know those of us in the USA don't really speak or
understand English. ;-)

.
 

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