Mirror rule versus redirect

[jfm5440]

It looks like the answer is no to me but can anyone tell me if it is
possible to set up a message mirror server-side rule? This is a rule
that preserves the To:/CC: field instead of redirect which changes it.
My old mail server/webmail could do this easily.

 

[Brian Tillman]

It looks like the answer is no to me but can anyone tell me if it is
possible to set up a message mirror server-side rule? This is a rule
that preserves the To:/CC: field instead of redirect which changes it.
My old mail server/webmail could do this easily.

Exchange accounts allow redirect. Other account types like POP do not. I
don't know if Hotmail accounts accessed via the Outlook Connector do or not.

I do recall seeing a third-party tool that will allow redirect for
non-Exchange accounts, though. It's here:
http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/redirect/

 

[Diane Poremsky]

you can forward as attachment - the recipient replies to the attachment.

If your mail server allows, you can resend the message. Open it and look on
the Options menu for Resend Message. you'll get a warning that you are not
the original sender... and as long as your mail server allows you to send
messages with different from addresses, it works. It will not work with
Exchange accts.

 

[jfm5440]

Exchange accounts allow redirect.  Other account types like POP do not.  I
don't know if Hotmail accounts accessed via the Outlook Connector do or not.

I do recall seeing a third-party tool that will allow redirect for
non-Exchange accounts, though.  It's here:http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/redirect/

Not the same thing. Redirect cahnges the "To:" field to the address of
the final recipient. Mirror leaves the To: field set to the
intermediate recipient. (We're not taling about the envelope-to here).

This can be useful. I had and address, say, (e-mail address removed) in a server
and when it redirected to my Gmail acct I had a filter that looked for
"to: (e-mail address removed)" and set a label. Further useful because a reply in
Gmail would set the from address as (e-mail address removed) and not my Gmail
address.

 

[Diane Poremsky]

Redirect sends it to a new recipient but keeps the original sender's address
(an often requested feature outlook doesn't handle well). You want to
forward and keep the original To address- that is a feature of the mail
server, not the client (clients forward but change the To and From names).

 

[jfm5440]

Redirect sends it to a new recipient but keeps the original sender's address
(an often requested feature outlook doesn't handle well).  You want to
forward and keep the original To address- that is a feature of the mail
server, not the client (clients forward but change the To and From names).

--
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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
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Not the same thing. Redirect cahnges the "To:" field to the address of
the final recipient. Mirror leaves the To: field set to the
intermediate recipient. (We're not taling about the envelope-to here).

This can be useful. I had and address, say, (e-mail address removed) in a server
and when it redirected to my Gmail acct I had a filter that looked for
"to: (e-mail address removed)" and set a label. Further useful because a reply in
Gmail would set the from address as (e-mail address removed) and not my Gmail
address.

Correct. But you set up Exchange server-side rules via Outlook.

 

[Diane Poremsky]

But it wouldn't be a server side rule (its still an Outlook rule, it just
runs when outlook isn't) - I think doing it via a contact in the AD would
work as desired, although I haven't used that method in years and could be
wrong.

Redirect sends it to a new recipient but keeps the original sender's
address
(an often requested feature outlook doesn't handle well). You want to
forward and keep the original To address- that is a feature of the mail
server, not the client (clients forward but change the To and From
names).

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:
(e-mail address removed)

Outlook Tips:http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center:http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
(e-mail address removed)

It looks like the answer is no to me but can anyone tell me if it is
possible to set up a message mirror server-side rule? This is a rule
that preserves the To:/CC: field instead of redirect which changes
it.
My old mail server/webmail could do this easily.

Exchange accounts allow redirect. Other account types like POP do not.
I
don't know if Hotmail accounts accessed via the Outlook Connector do
or
not.

I do recall seeing a third-party tool that will allow redirect for
non-Exchange accounts, though. It's
here:http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/redirect/

Not the same thing. Redirect cahnges the "To:" field to the address of
the final recipient. Mirror leaves the To: field set to the
intermediate recipient. (We're not taling about the envelope-to here).

This can be useful. I had and address, say, (e-mail address removed) in a server
and when it redirected to my Gmail acct I had a filter that looked for
"to: (e-mail address removed)" and set a label. Further useful because a reply in
Gmail would set the from address as (e-mail address removed) and not my Gmail
address.

Correct. But you set up Exchange server-side rules via Outlook.

 

[Diane Poremsky]

As an FYI - I verified the "contact in the AD" method will forward the
message without changing the original To or From fields if you use Exchange
server (and are the admin or the admin will configure it for you).

But it wouldn't be a server side rule (its still an Outlook rule, it just
runs when outlook isn't) - I think doing it via a contact in the AD would
work as desired, although I haven't used that method in years and could be
wrong.

Redirect sends it to a new recipient but keeps the original sender's
address
(an often requested feature outlook doesn't handle well). You want to
forward and keep the original To address- that is a feature of the mail
server, not the client (clients forward but change the To and From
names).

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:
(e-mail address removed)

Outlook Tips:http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center:http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
(e-mail address removed)



It looks like the answer is no to me but can anyone tell me if it
is
possible to set up a message mirror server-side rule? This is a
rule
that preserves the To:/CC: field instead of redirect which changes
it.
My old mail server/webmail could do this easily.

Exchange accounts allow redirect. Other account types like POP do
not. I
don't know if Hotmail accounts accessed via the Outlook Connector do
or
not.

I do recall seeing a third-party tool that will allow redirect for
non-Exchange accounts, though. It's
here:http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/redirect/
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

Not the same thing. Redirect cahnges the "To:" field to the address of
the final recipient. Mirror leaves the To: field set to the
intermediate recipient. (We're not taling about the envelope-to here).

This can be useful. I had and address, say, (e-mail address removed) in a server
and when it redirected to my Gmail acct I had a filter that looked for
"to: (e-mail address removed)" and set a label. Further useful because a reply in
Gmail would set the from address as (e-mail address removed) and not my Gmail
address.

Correct. But you set up Exchange server-side rules via Outlook.

 

[jfm5440]

I thought about that but I'd like users to be able to set this as they
wish without bothering us up here in support and I also want this to
be able to happen after all user defined server side rules. Here's my
specific user type I need to support.

Guy has a Blackberry and he wants to mirror all his mail except mail
that our Unix front-end server has tagged with spam markers. On our
old back-end server (Stalker CommunigatePro) he could set up a rule
chain and after all of them ran it would then mirror his mail to his
blackberry acct and the "To:" field would still have his corporate
address.

I believe a contact in AD would mirror before the user's rules run.

A shame really because this was so darn easy to do in Communigate and
it spoiled a few users.

As an FYI - I verified the "contact in the AD" method will forward the
message without changing the original To or From fields if you use Exchange
server (and are the admin or the admin will configure it for you).

But it wouldn't be a server side rule (its still an Outlook rule, it just
runs when outlook isn't) - I think doing it via a contact in the AD would
work as desired, although I haven't used that method in years and could be
wrong.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:
(e-mail address removed)

Outlook Tips:http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center:http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
(e-mail address removed)

Redirect sends it to a new recipient but keeps the original sender's
address
(an often requested feature outlook doesn't handle well). You want to
forward and keep the original To address- that is a feature of the mail
server, not the client (clients forward but change the To and From
names).
--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks?http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007:http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/
Outlook Tips by email:
(e-mail address removed)
Outlook Tips:http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center:http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
(e-mail address removed)

It looks like the answer is no to me but can anyone tell me if it
is
possible to set up a message mirror server-side rule? This is a
rule
that preserves the To:/CC: field instead of redirect which changes
it.
My old mail server/webmail could do this easily.
Exchange accounts allow redirect. Other account types like POP do
not. I
don't know if Hotmail accounts accessed via the Outlook Connector do
or
not.
I do recall seeing a third-party tool that will allow redirect for
non-Exchange accounts, though. It's
here:http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/redirect/
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
Not the same thing. Redirect cahnges the "To:" field to the address of
the final recipient. Mirror leaves the To: field set to the
intermediate recipient. (We're not taling about the envelope-to here).
This can be useful. I had and address, say, (e-mail address removed) in a server
and when it redirected to my Gmail acct I had a filter that looked for
"to: (e-mail address removed)" and set a label. Further useful because a reply in
Gmail would set the from address as (e-mail address removed) and not my Gmail
address.
Correct. But you set up Exchange server-side rules via Outlook.