Microsoft VM will not install

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Nick Nicholas

I am trying to install Microsoft VM for Java in windows xp sp3 in
order to run an application requiring the VM. However, when I run
msjavx86.exe (version 3805), the installation runs without errors but
the vm is not installed.

Unfortunately, a search of the Microsoft's website and the internet
did not provide any solutions to this problem so that is why I am
posting this topic on this forum (the microsoft vm forum has very
little activity so that is why I am posting on the windowsxp general
forum).

I think this is a general problem as others have had the same
experience. Any suggestions to get the vm installed on Windows XP
would be appreciated.
 
V

VanguardLH

Nick said:
I am trying to install Microsoft VM for Java in windows xp sp3 in
order to run an application requiring the VM. However, when I run
msjavx86.exe (version 3805), the installation runs without errors but
the vm is not installed.

Unfortunately, a search of the Microsoft's website and the internet
did not provide any solutions to this problem so that is why I am
posting this topic on this forum (the microsoft vm forum has very
little activity so that is why I am posting on the windowsxp general
forum).

I think this is a general problem as others have had the same
experience. Any suggestions to get the vm installed on Windows XP
would be appreciated.

Microsoft was required to stop distributing its Java interpreter. Sun
sued Microsoft (http://www.itworld.com/IW010123hnsunlawsuit) and Sun
won. You now install Sun's JRE to get their plug-in to use their Java
interpreter.

Microsoft had to remove MS Java from their service pack for Windows XP.
It had already been included in SP-1. So Microsoft came out with SP-1a
which removed MS Java; see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813926. As I
recall, once SP-1a came out, you couldn't get SP-1 from Microsoft
anymore.

My guess is that you are trying to install the really, REALLY old
Microsoft Java interpreter into a version of Windows that won't support
it anymore. You would have to go back to a Gold or SP-1 version of
Windows XP.
 
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Nick Nicholas

Microsoft was required to stop distributing its Java interpreter.  Sun
sued Microsoft (http://www.itworld.com/IW010123hnsunlawsuit) and Sun
won.  You now install Sun's JRE to get their plug-in to use their Java
interpreter.

Microsoft had to remove MS Java from their service pack for Windows XP.
It had already been included in SP-1.  So Microsoft came out with SP-1a
which removed MS Java; seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/813926.  As I
recall, once SP-1a came out, you couldn't get SP-1 from Microsoft
anymore.  

My guess is that you are trying to install the really, REALLY old
Microsoft Java interpreter into a version of Windows that won't support
it anymore.  You would have to go back to a Gold or SP-1 version of
Windows XP.

I wonder if Microsoft has blocked the install of the VM on computers
with service packs greater than sp1 installed? My search of the
internet did not bring up this issue.
 
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VanguardLH

Nick said:
I wonder if Microsoft has blocked the install of the VM on computers
with service packs greater than sp1 installed? My search of the
internet did not bring up this issue.

Why do you need *Microsoft's* antiquated and unsupport Java VM
interpreter engine? You *want* junk?

Even before it got yanked after Sun's lawsuit, I can't recall any
programmers of my acquaintance (about 50 at one company and 12 at
another) that even bothered with it, and they were doing Java coding at
the time (vendors were jumping on the platform-independent bandwagon to
increase the audience for their products or to eliminate redundant but
platform-specific code branches). Yes, it did run faster than Sun's JVM
at *that* time but it also was lacking in so many features and generated
incompatibilities with published Java documentation that it got panned
pretty quick. Fast but unreliable wasn't anything a vendor wanted to
base the sales of their product.
 
N

Nick Nicholas

Why do you need *Microsoft's* antiquated and unsupport Java VM
interpreter engine?  You *want* junk?

Even before it got yanked after Sun's lawsuit, I can't recall any
programmers of my acquaintance (about 50 at one company and 12 at
another) that even bothered with it, and they were doing Java coding at
the time (vendors were jumping on the platform-independent bandwagon to
increase the audience for their products or to eliminate redundant but
platform-specific code branches). Yes, it did run faster than Sun's JVM
at *that* time but it also was lacking in so many features and generated
incompatibilities with published Java documentation that it got panned
pretty quick.  Fast but unreliable wasn't anything a vendor wanted to
base the sales of their product.

Unfortunately, the software I am interested in requires the VM and the
software was published by a not so small company.
 
V

VanguardLH

Nick said:
Unfortunately, the software I am interested in requires the VM and the
software was published by a not so small company.

Have you tried it with Sun's JRE?
 

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