Microsoft Virtual PC (Virtualizing Windows 2000)

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Steven Wabik

I posted this question in different sections for different reasons. one
reason was because I am not sure were to post this question. Another reason
is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy operating system on Windows
Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I seem to be having an issue with it.

What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows Vista PC
using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i try to install
Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it gives me an issues saying
that i cannot install the operating system because it did not come with the
computer or whatever. yet when i install it on the physical machine itself,
the computer will go through with the installation just fine.

I think i am having this particular issue because the installation CD i have
for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone knows where I can
download an ISO image of a Windows 2000 installation CD that will work with
Microsoft Virtual PC. It would be nice if someone knows a place of where I
could download an ISO of the installation CD or if someone can just send me
a physical installation CD for windows 2000.


there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000 over
Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less hard disk space
and plus it does not detect certian types of hardware devices. I virtualized
Windows XP earlier and one or two of the devices that Wondows XP detected
that Windows 2000 does not detect, made it so that it kept switching back
and forth between Vista and XP whenever I used those particular hardware
devices. another advantage of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it works
faster, and plus it is more compatible with older applications that Windows
XP may or may not be compatible with.

so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having. windows
vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its own good.

From,
Steven Wabik
 
R

Rick Rogers

Hi Steven,

What you need is retail media with a Product Key. I doubt anyone will simply
give it to you, you'll have to peruse sites that may still sell it (might
try ebay) as it is no longer available through normal retail channels. The
only legit sources for downloading the .iso's would be via MSDN or Technet
subscriptions.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
S

Steven Wabik

I just want the ISO image not an activation key. oddly i have two activation
keys. one was for a retail version but i lost the CD for it. and that one
was a multi-PC lisence. and the interesting thing was that i could use
either activation key with any of the CDs. but yet with XP or vista, each
activation key seems to be locked to a particular Windows installation CD.

Since I am starting my own PC repair company and all that microsoft knows
about, I think I may or may not be able to get them to send me a copy of
Windows 2000. I would purchase Windows 2000, but its not worth it for use on
Microsoft virual PC. I'll just keep using it on my tc4400. having two of the
same tablet PC is usefull. besides microsoft may snd me a copy of microsoft
since I do business with them at times through my company.

From,
Steven Wabik
SPW.net Technologies
 
M

Mick Murphy

You have multi-posted, NOT cross-posted.
All you have done is make more work for people here, as answers do not show
up across the board now!!
I answered you in another Newsgroup!
 
P

Peter Foldes

You can get a Windows 2000 download from MSDN. You will need to subscribe unless you already are.

Also you might find someone selling one on EBay
 
S

Steven Wabik

I know that....

I was just hoping that someone could send me an ISO image of the Windows
2000 installation CD. I already have a valide activation key that would work
with it.

I have an OEM copy but OEM copy won't work with Microsoft Virtual Machine. I
need a Retail Installation CD. and I do not care what service pack revision
it is... and by the way I sadly lost my retail installation CD for Windows
2000. if I still had the CD this post would not exist.

at this point I'm starting to beta testing Windows 7. oddly at times I am
using virtual machine on the operating system. I'm virtualizing Windows XP
on that particular computer, but thats just for beta testing purposes. on my
primary machine, i wanna virtualize Windows 2000.

From,
Steven Wabik
SPW.net Technologies




You can get a Windows 2000 download from MSDN. You will need to subscribe
unless you already are.

Also you might find someone selling one on EBay
 
R

Richard Urban

If you have a "retail" key just borrow the Win2K retail install CD from
another person. Your key will work fine with the borrowed disk.

Richard Urban
 
S

Steven Wabik

you realize this page you gave me a link to, no longer applies to Windows
2000.

I believe microsoft started to mainsteam XP and vista a few years ago. it
seems they also discontinued replacementment services for windows 2000. at
least they still give monthly updates for this operating system.
Rick Rogers said:
As you have a valid retail key, see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[ln];326246

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Steven Wabik said:
I just want the ISO image not an activation key. oddly i have two
activation keys. one was for a retail version but i lost the CD for it.
and that one was a multi-PC lisence. and the interesting thing was that i
could use either activation key with any of the CDs. but yet with XP or
vista, each activation key seems to be locked to a particular Windows
installation CD.

Since I am starting my own PC repair company and all that microsoft knows
about, I think I may or may not be able to get them to send me a copy of
Windows 2000. I would purchase Windows 2000, but its not worth it for use
on Microsoft virual PC. I'll just keep using it on my tc4400. having two
of the same tablet PC is usefull. besides microsoft may snd me a copy of
microsoft since I do business with them at times through my company.

From,
Steven Wabik
SPW.net Technologies
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S

Steven Wabik

i would, but no one uses Windows 2000 anymore. now adays people are uses
windows XP and vista. yet, i do know a few people who are back tracking to
windows 98 for some odd reason.
 
S

Steven Wabik

well, since no one can really help me get an ISO image of Windows 2000. than
maybe you guess can help me with something else. i have another idea of how
i could virtualize Windows 2000, but i am not sure if it is possible.

well, right now i have a computer running windows 2000. my idea is to
possibly convert the windows 2000 hard drive partition into a .vhd file for
use with Microsoft virtual machine. my question is, is it even possible to
do that? and if it is how do I do that? and will someone please help me with
this?

From,
Steven Wabik
 
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Gary S. Terhune

What you want is something for free that isn't available (legally) for free.
You have to pay for it. Period. Unless, as you suggest, you have a business
relationship with MS and your contact(s) there can do something for you.
Otherwise, for all that you're asking for, $100+ is the price you pay.

PS -- Microsoft groups are a terrible place to go begging for illegal copies
of Microsoft software.
 
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Rick Rogers

Not a bad idea, Steven, but unlikely to be able to happen. Reason is the
hardware. The installation is using one set of drivers and a system file set
built based on that, and I doubt that it would match the virtualized
hardware of VPC even if there were some way of building a .vhd file from it.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
R

Rick Rogers

Have you tried calling and asking? You've nothing to lose by doing so. It
only states that software out of warranty "may" be unavailable. I know of a
case some years ago that a consumer was able to get a replacement Win98 disk
well after support for it expired.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Steven Wabik said:
you realize this page you gave me a link to, no longer applies to Windows
2000.

I believe microsoft started to mainsteam XP and vista a few years ago. it
seems they also discontinued replacementment services for windows 2000. at
least they still give monthly updates for this operating system.
Rick Rogers said:
As you have a valid retail key, see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[ln];326246

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Steven Wabik said:
I just want the ISO image not an activation key. oddly i have two
activation keys. one was for a retail version but i lost the CD for it.
and that one was a multi-PC lisence. and the interesting thing was that i
could use either activation key with any of the CDs. but yet with XP or
vista, each activation key seems to be locked to a particular Windows
installation CD.

Since I am starting my own PC repair company and all that microsoft
knows about, I think I may or may not be able to get them to send me a
copy of Windows 2000. I would purchase Windows 2000, but its not worth
it for use on Microsoft virual PC. I'll just keep using it on my tc4400.
having two of the same tablet PC is usefull. besides microsoft may snd
me a copy of microsoft since I do business with them at times through my
company.

From,
Steven Wabik
SPW.net Technologies


Hi Steven,

What you need is retail media with a Product Key. I doubt anyone will
simply give it to you, you'll have to peruse sites that may still sell
it (might try ebay) as it is no longer available through normal retail
channels. The only legit sources for downloading the .iso's would be
via MSDN or Technet subscriptions.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

I posted this question in different sections for different reasons. one
reason was because I am not sure were to post this question. Another
reason is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy operating system
on Windows Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I seem to be having an
issue with it.

What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows Vista
PC using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i try to
install Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it gives me an
issues saying that i cannot install the operating system because it
did not come with the computer or whatever. yet when i install it on
the physical machine itself, the computer will go through with the
installation just fine.

I think i am having this particular issue because the installation CD
i have for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone knows
where I can download an ISO image of a Windows 2000 installation CD
that will work with Microsoft Virtual PC. It would be nice if someone
knows a place of where I could download an ISO of the installation CD
or if someone can just send me a physical installation CD for windows
2000.


there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000
over Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less hard
disk space and plus it does not detect certian types of hardware
devices. I virtualized Windows XP earlier and one or two of the
devices that Wondows XP detected that Windows 2000 does not detect,
made it so that it kept switching back and forth between Vista and XP
whenever I used those particular hardware devices. another advantage
of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it works faster, and plus it is
more compatible with older applications that Windows XP may or may not
be compatible with.

so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having.
windows vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its
own good.

From,
Steven Wabik
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S

Steven Wabik

your right about the driver set thing. the nice thing is that the older
operating systems would be better matched up with with virtual machine than
the newer operating systems because of the hardware requirements. so its
just a matter of converting a partition with a fresh install of the
operating system. that way it would have no PC specific drivers on it.

can you try to help me look into this option.
 
S

Steven Wabik

it also says i need my proof of purchase, but i have no idea of where i left
that. some of my activation key i just have stored on my computer. for older
operating systems and other software that i do not use anymore, i just keep
in my closet. some of the stuff i am just too lazy to get rid of. I still
have installation CDs for Windows CE and Internet Explorer 4.

I guess i could try to give them a call. i looked on thir site that u gave
me a link to. i already bookmarked it from earler from something else. it
says that i need a proof of purchase. if i cannot find that, than how do i
prove that i have a retail copy of windows 2000? and get it replaced by
them?

From,
Steven Wabik

Rick Rogers said:
Have you tried calling and asking? You've nothing to lose by doing so. It
only states that software out of warranty "may" be unavailable. I know of
a case some years ago that a consumer was able to get a replacement Win98
disk well after support for it expired.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Steven Wabik said:
you realize this page you gave me a link to, no longer applies to Windows
2000.

I believe microsoft started to mainsteam XP and vista a few years ago. it
seems they also discontinued replacementment services for windows 2000.
at least they still give monthly updates for this operating system.
Rick Rogers said:
As you have a valid retail key, see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[ln];326246

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

I just want the ISO image not an activation key. oddly i have two
activation keys. one was for a retail version but i lost the CD for it.
and that one was a multi-PC lisence. and the interesting thing was that
i could use either activation key with any of the CDs. but yet with XP
or vista, each activation key seems to be locked to a particular Windows
installation CD.

Since I am starting my own PC repair company and all that microsoft
knows about, I think I may or may not be able to get them to send me a
copy of Windows 2000. I would purchase Windows 2000, but its not worth
it for use on Microsoft virual PC. I'll just keep using it on my
tc4400. having two of the same tablet PC is usefull. besides microsoft
may snd me a copy of microsoft since I do business with them at times
through my company.

From,
Steven Wabik
SPW.net Technologies


Hi Steven,

What you need is retail media with a Product Key. I doubt anyone will
simply give it to you, you'll have to peruse sites that may still sell
it (might try ebay) as it is no longer available through normal retail
channels. The only legit sources for downloading the .iso's would be
via MSDN or Technet subscriptions.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

I posted this question in different sections for different reasons.
one reason was because I am not sure were to post this question.
Another reason is because I am trying to virtualize a legacy operating
system on Windows Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC and I seem to be
having an issue with it.

What I am trying to do is virtualize Windows 2000 on my Windows Vista
PC using Microsoft Virtual PC. the only issue is that when i try to
install Windows 2000 on the Virtual PC i get an issue. it gives me an
issues saying that i cannot install the operating system because it
did not come with the computer or whatever. yet when i install it on
the physical machine itself, the computer will go through with the
installation just fine.

I think i am having this particular issue because the installation CD
i have for windows 2000 is a OEM CD. what I am asking if anyone knows
where I can download an ISO image of a Windows 2000 installation CD
that will work with Microsoft Virtual PC. It would be nice if someone
knows a place of where I could download an ISO of the installation CD
or if someone can just send me a physical installation CD for windows
2000.


there are a lot of reasons of why I reather Virtualize Windows 2000
over Windows XP. one reason is because windows 2000 takes up less
hard disk space and plus it does not detect certian types of hardware
devices. I virtualized Windows XP earlier and one or two of the
devices that Wondows XP detected that Windows 2000 does not detect,
made it so that it kept switching back and forth between Vista and XP
whenever I used those particular hardware devices. another advantage
of virtualizing Windows 2000 is that it works faster, and plus it is
more compatible with older applications that Windows XP may or may
not be compatible with.

so, can someone please help me with this issue that i am having.
windows vista just has too many program compatiility issues for its
own good.

From,
Steven Wabik
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S

Steven Wabik

since when is sharing an ISO of an installation CD of an operating system
illegal? it would be illegal if i was trying to get a activation key out of
one of you guys.

and by the way, its always a bad idea to go around asking for illegal copies
of software.

i'm not sure if my contacts with microsoft can help me with this particular
issue. i am only working with them on vista and windows 7 stuff. i guess i
can ask about windows 2000. it couldn't hurt.
 

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