Microsoft MVPs

[The Real Truth MVP]

I'm a real MVP dickwad You just can't find the proof because you don't know
my name and you are pissed because I won't tell you.

 

[Bill in Co.]

There have been one or two I have seen. PCButts is one and the fake Nass
is
the other.

(OK - I wasn't counting those two fakes. I think he was referring to the
pool at large).

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

I'm a real MVP dickwad You just can't find the proof because you don't
know my name and you are pissed because I won't tell you.

You will never be an MVP, only in your own mind..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

[Leonard Grey]

pcbutts is an MVP if you think MVP means "Most Vulgar Person".

On the other hand, that probably wasn't a post from the real pcbutts.

 

[db.·.. >]

don't change the subject.

perhaps you should put
your guts where your
mouth is and volunteer
to enlist ,

then volunteer to
unenlist.

 

[Twayne]

perhaps, you should learn to keep your comments and criticisms to the

subject at hand. (something in here about the kettle and the pot..)
You mis-spoke when you said "volunteering is donating time without
compensation." Wiki disagrees, did you look it up??? The US
military is an all volunteer force....they get paid as they well
should. Your mind is as narrow as your postings....

Boy, you can be pretty stupid at times:
vol·un·teer
/?v?l?n't??r/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [vol-uhn-teer] Show IPA
Pronunciation

–noun 1. a person who voluntarily offers himself or herself for a
service or undertaking.
2. a person who performs a service willingly and *without pay*.
3. Military. a person who enters the service voluntarily rather
than through conscription or draft, esp. for special or temporary
service rather than as a member of the regular or permanent army.
4. Law. a. a person whose actions are not founded on any legal
obligation so to act.
b. a person who intrudes into a matter that does not concern
him or her, as a person who pays the debt of another where he or she is
neither legally nor morally bound to do so and has no interest to
protect in making the payment.

5. Agriculture. a volunteer plant.
6. (initial capital letter) a native or inhabitant of Tennessee
(used as a nickname).
–adjective 7. of, pertaining to, or being a volunteer or volunteers: a
volunteer fireman.
8. Agriculture. growing without being seeded, planted, or
cultivated by a person; springing up spontaneously.
–verb (used without object) 9. to offer oneself for some service or
undertaking.
10. to enter service or enlist as a volunteer.
–verb (used with object) 11. to offer (oneself or one's services) for
some undertaking or purpose.
12. to give, bestow, or perform voluntarily: to volunteer a song.
13. to say, tell, or communicate voluntarily: to volunteer an
explanation.

 

[Twayne]

Sorry; didn't mean db; meant the others spouting their ignorance. db
was correct.

perhaps, you should learn to keep your comments and criticisms to the
subject at hand. (something in here about the kettle and the pot..)
You mis-spoke when you said "volunteering is donating time without
compensation." Wiki disagrees, did you look it up??? The US
military is an all volunteer force....they get paid as they well
should. Your mind is as narrow as your postings....

Boy, you can be pretty stupid at times:
vol·un·teer
/?v?l?n't??r/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [vol-uhn-teer] Show IPA
Pronunciation

–noun 1. a person who voluntarily offers himself or herself for a
service or undertaking.
2. a person who performs a service willingly and *without pay*.
3. Military. a person who enters the service voluntarily rather
than through conscription or draft, esp. for special or temporary
service rather than as a member of the regular or permanent army.
4. Law. a. a person whose actions are not founded on any legal
obligation so to act.
b. a person who intrudes into a matter that does not
concern him or her, as a person who pays the debt of another where he
or she is neither legally nor morally bound to do so and has no
interest to protect in making the payment.

5. Agriculture. a volunteer plant.
6. (initial capital letter) a native or inhabitant of Tennessee
(used as a nickname).
–adjective 7. of, pertaining to, or being a volunteer or volunteers: a
volunteer fireman.
8. Agriculture. growing without being seeded, planted, or
cultivated by a person; springing up spontaneously.
–verb (used without object) 9. to offer oneself for some service or
undertaking.
10. to enter service or enlist as a volunteer.
–verb (used with object) 11. to offer (oneself or one's services) for
some undertaking or purpose.
12. to give, bestow, or perform voluntarily: to volunteer a song.
13. to say, tell, or communicate voluntarily: to volunteer an
explanation.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Origin:
1590–1600; < F volontaire < L voluntarius voluntary, with -eer for
F -aire

 

[Marianne]

Sorry; didn't mean db; meant the others spouting their ignorance.

Of course, you didn't mean doodle brains, he's your only peer here. You
two are the last ones here that should be preaching about ignorance and
accusing other, there is no one here more ignorant than doodle brains
and you are a very close second place contender! The breadth of your
ignorance is truly astounding.

M

 

[Bill in Co.]

Of course, you didn't mean doodle brains, he's your only peer here. You
two are the last ones here that should be preaching about ignorance and
accusing other, there is no one here more ignorant than doodle brains
and you are a very close second place contender! The breadth of your
ignorance is truly astounding.

M

Indeed. Methinks some of them need to "look within". (Sadly, they appear
to be incapable of that, which is not all that unusual. (hollow glasses
make the most noise.)

 

[*Laughingstar*]

Indeed. Methinks some of them need to "look within". (Sadly, they
appear to be incapable of that, which is not all that unusual. (hollow
glasses make the most noise.)

that is squeeky wheels, Bill

 

[Bill in Co.]

that is squeeky wheels, Bill

Actually, IIRC, it's either one (or both of them).

 

[Vodkasoda]

It's a valid and interesting question, and judging by the 40+ responses it
has rattled a few cages ... perhaps now that their cages have been rattled
and they are awake, perhaps some of the MVPs (real and fake) might like to
try and answer why Windows Live Messenger is crashing in Vista ... and if
they don't know then to raise the issue with people who might know or be able
to find out ... perhaps that mught be a more valuable use of their time than
arguing and whining, after all, isn't that supposed to be what they are here
for ?!?!?

They're of no VALUE to me if they don't help resolve this issues I raise !!!

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

It's a valid and interesting question, and judging by the 40+ responses it
has rattled a few cages ... perhaps now that their cages have been rattled
and they are awake, perhaps some of the MVPs (real and fake) might like to
try and answer why Windows Live Messenger is crashing in Vista ... and if
they don't know then to raise the issue with people who might know or be
able
to find out ... perhaps that mught be a more valuable use of their time
than
arguing and whining, after all, isn't that supposed to be what they are
here
for ?!?!?

They're of no VALUE to me if they don't help resolve this issues I raise
!!!

We are volunteers here just like anybody else..

Re Messenger, what version are you using? Try the latest one..

You might also try asking in

microsoft.public.msn.messenger

Bear in mind that many users of Messenger do not have this problem, and that
it may be down to plugins or addons which you may have installed..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

[Ken Blake]

It's a valid and interesting question, and judging by the 40+ responses it
has rattled a few cages ... perhaps now that their cages have been rattled
and they are awake, perhaps some of the MVPs (real and fake) might like to
try and answer why Windows Live Messenger is crashing in Vista ... and if
they don't know then to raise the issue with people who might know or be
able
to find out ...

Three points:

1. All of we MVPs are volunteers

2. All of we MVPs know some things very well, others slightly, and still
others not at all. I, for example, have no interest in Windows Live
Messenger, know nothing about it, and can't help you regarding any problems
you have with it.

3. Some MVPs may have the ability to discuss certain types of problems with
the appropriate Microsoft employees; others don't. In many cases, we
wouldn't even know who to raise an issue with. Regarding Windows Messenger,
not only do I not know anything about it, but I don't even know the name of
a Microsoft employee who does. Moreover, this is not an established method
of getting problems solved, and even if I knew the right person at Microsoft
and asked him, there is no guarantee that it would lead to a solution.

perhaps that mught be a more valuable use of their time than
arguing and whining, after all, isn't that supposed to be what they are
here
for ?!?!?

No, not at all. We are volunteers who each have knowledge in certain areas
only. It's for that reason that each of answers some questions and ignore
others, about which we know nothing (or at least not enough) entirely.

They're of no VALUE to me if they don't help resolve this issues I raise
!!!

Then feel free to ignore or even killfile all of us. There is no
requirement that any of us be of any value to you.

 

[Earle Horton]

"All of us". That should kill the OP's hope of contacting any intelligent
live via this avenue. Live Search has 29,900,000 results using normal
grammar, and 17,600 using what you have. Do people actually talk like that?
I wouldn't have said anything, but you used the correct form later.

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Ken's use of "we" is correct. You can begin your basic studying here:
http://www.one-step-forward.net/2007/10/i-versus-me-us-versus-we.html

: "All of us". That should kill the OP's hope of contacting any intelligent
: live via this avenue. Live Search has 29,900,000 results using normal
: grammar, and 17,600 using what you have. Do people actually talk like
that?
: I wouldn't have said anything, but you used the correct form later.
:
: --
: Earle Horton -- (e-mail address removed)
: -- Defender of the English language.
:
: : > : >
: >> It's a valid and interesting question, and judging by the 40+ responses
: >> it
: >> has rattled a few cages ... perhaps now that their cages have been
: >> rattled
: >> and they are awake, perhaps some of the MVPs (real and fake) might like
: >> to
: >> try and answer why Windows Live Messenger is crashing in Vista ... and
if
: >> they don't know then to raise the issue with people who might know or
be
: >> able
: >> to find out ...
: >
: >
: > Three points:
: >
: > 1. All of we MVPs are volunteers
: >
: > 2. All of we MVPs know some things very well, others slightly, and still
: > others not at all. I, for example, have no interest in Windows Live
: > Messenger, know nothing about it, and can't help you regarding any
: > problems you have with it.
: >
: > 3. Some MVPs may have the ability to discuss certain types of problems
: > with the appropriate Microsoft employees; others don't. In many cases,
we
: > wouldn't even know who to raise an issue with. Regarding Windows
: > Messenger, not only do I not know anything about it, but I don't even
know
: > the name of a Microsoft employee who does. Moreover, this is not an
: > established method of getting problems solved, and even if I knew the
: > right person at Microsoft and asked him, there is no guarantee that it
: > would lead to a solution.
: >
: >
: >> perhaps that mught be a more valuable use of their time than
: >> arguing and whining, after all, isn't that supposed to be what they are
: >> here
: >> for ?!?!?
: >
: >
: > No, not at all. We are volunteers who each have knowledge in certain
areas
: > only. It's for that reason that each of answers some questions and
ignore
: > others, about which we know nothing (or at least not enough) entirely.
: >
: >
: >> They're of no VALUE to me if they don't help resolve this issues I
raise
: >> !!!
: >
: >
: > Then feel free to ignore or even killfile all of us. There is no
: > requirement that any of us be of any value to you.
: >
: >
:
:

 

[Earle Horton]

"All of we" does not appear on that page. In this case the pronoun is the
object of the preposition "of" and so the accusative pronoun is required.
According to the advice on the page, which is not bad, «decide which case
fits by narrowing the sentence down to the subject and the verb. If your
pronoun is neither of these then use "us".» Object of a pronoun, therefore
"us". The rules are so simple...

Now which use of Ken's is "correct"? He says "all of we" and "any of us" as
if both were permissible. According to my quick Live Search results, one
person out of 1699 agrees with the first use. The inconsistency is the part
that tells me not to take this guy seriously. Learn to read, and if you
post a link as evidence of your position, read it first.

--
Earle Horton -- (e-mail address removed)

Ken's use of "we" is correct. You can begin your basic studying here:
http://www.one-step-forward.net/2007/10/i-versus-me-us-versus-we.html

: "All of us". That should kill the OP's hope of contacting any
intelligent
: live via this avenue. Live Search has 29,900,000 results using normal
: grammar, and 17,600 using what you have. Do people actually talk like
that?
: I wouldn't have said anything, but you used the correct form later.
:
: --
: Earle Horton -- (e-mail address removed)
: -- Defender of the English language.
:
: : > : >
: >> It's a valid and interesting question, and judging by the 40+
responses
: >> it
: >> has rattled a few cages ... perhaps now that their cages have been
: >> rattled
: >> and they are awake, perhaps some of the MVPs (real and fake) might
like
: >> to
: >> try and answer why Windows Live Messenger is crashing in Vista ...
and
if
: >> they don't know then to raise the issue with people who might know or
be
: >> able
: >> to find out ...
: >
: >
: > Three points:
: >
: > 1. All of we MVPs are volunteers
: >
: > 2. All of we MVPs know some things very well, others slightly, and
still
: > others not at all. I, for example, have no interest in Windows Live
: > Messenger, know nothing about it, and can't help you regarding any
: > problems you have with it.
: >
: > 3. Some MVPs may have the ability to discuss certain types of problems
: > with the appropriate Microsoft employees; others don't. In many cases,
we
: > wouldn't even know who to raise an issue with. Regarding Windows
: > Messenger, not only do I not know anything about it, but I don't even
know
: > the name of a Microsoft employee who does. Moreover, this is not an
: > established method of getting problems solved, and even if I knew the
: > right person at Microsoft and asked him, there is no guarantee that it
: > would lead to a solution.
: >
: >
: >> perhaps that mught be a more valuable use of their time than
: >> arguing and whining, after all, isn't that supposed to be what they
are
: >> here
: >> for ?!?!?
: >
: >
: > No, not at all. We are volunteers who each have knowledge in certain
areas
: > only. It's for that reason that each of answers some questions and
ignore
: > others, about which we know nothing (or at least not enough) entirely.
: >
: >
: >> They're of no VALUE to me if they don't help resolve this issues I
raise
: >> !!!
: >
: >
: > Then feel free to ignore or even killfile all of us. There is no
: > requirement that any of us be of any value to you.
: >
: >
:
:

 

[Peter Foldes]

Earle

You are having another bad day. Did you read the OP's post . Ken's reply was appropriate and correct(All of we) and in proper English be it British,Australian ,American , Canadian and etc.

Might not have been in South African English but it was correct for all others

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"All of we" does not appear on that page. In this case the pronoun is the
object of the preposition "of" and so the accusative pronoun is required.
According to the advice on the page, which is not bad, «decide which case
fits by narrowing the sentence down to the subject and the verb. If your
pronoun is neither of these then use "us".» Object of a pronoun, therefore
"us". The rules are so simple...

Now which use of Ken's is "correct"? He says "all of we" and "any of us" as
if both were permissible. According to my quick Live Search results, one
person out of 1699 agrees with the first use. The inconsistency is the part
that tells me not to take this guy seriously. Learn to read, and if you
post a link as evidence of your position, read it first.

--
Earle Horton -- (e-mail address removed)

Ken's use of "we" is correct. You can begin your basic studying here:
http://www.one-step-forward.net/2007/10/i-versus-me-us-versus-we.html

: "All of us". That should kill the OP's hope of contacting any
intelligent
: live via this avenue. Live Search has 29,900,000 results using normal
: grammar, and 17,600 using what you have. Do people actually talk like
that?
: I wouldn't have said anything, but you used the correct form later.
:
: --
: Earle Horton -- (e-mail address removed)
: -- Defender of the English language.
:
: : > : >
: >> It's a valid and interesting question, and judging by the 40+
responses
: >> it
: >> has rattled a few cages ... perhaps now that their cages have been
: >> rattled
: >> and they are awake, perhaps some of the MVPs (real and fake) might
like
: >> to
: >> try and answer why Windows Live Messenger is crashing in Vista ....
and
if
: >> they don't know then to raise the issue with people who might know or
be
: >> able
: >> to find out ...
: >
: >
: > Three points:
: >
: > 1. All of we MVPs are volunteers
: >
: > 2. All of we MVPs know some things very well, others slightly, and
still
: > others not at all. I, for example, have no interest in Windows Live
: > Messenger, know nothing about it, and can't help you regarding any
: > problems you have with it.
: >
: > 3. Some MVPs may have the ability to discuss certain types of problems
: > with the appropriate Microsoft employees; others don't. In many cases,
we
: > wouldn't even know who to raise an issue with. Regarding Windows
: > Messenger, not only do I not know anything about it, but I don't even
know
: > the name of a Microsoft employee who does. Moreover, this is not an
: > established method of getting problems solved, and even if I knew the
: > right person at Microsoft and asked him, there is no guarantee that it
: > would lead to a solution.
: >
: >
: >> perhaps that mught be a more valuable use of their time than
: >> arguing and whining, after all, isn't that supposed to be what they
are
: >> here
: >> for ?!?!?
: >
: >
: > No, not at all. We are volunteers who each have knowledge in certain
areas
: > only. It's for that reason that each of answers some questions and
ignore
: > others, about which we know nothing (or at least not enough) entirely.
: >
: >
: >> They're of no VALUE to me if they don't help resolve this issues I
raise
: >> !!!
: >
: >
: > Then feel free to ignore or even killfile all of us. There is no
: > requirement that any of us be of any value to you.
: >
: >
:
:

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

Twaddle....

_All of us_ is correct English.

 

[Vodkasoda]

Re: MVPs ... apologies, I didn't know you were all volunteers. I would have
expected that on some private forum or discussion group, but when I have a
problem with a Microsoft product & I come to a Microsoft site for help and
advice, I expected to be helped by a Microsoft "expert" ... it's not as if
they can't afford to pay the wages !!!

Re: Messenger ... This has happened on Vista since the last release, it
worked fine before that. I know that there is a known problem & it's
something to do with Flash, so I just expected that the new, Beta release,
would deal with that problem. Perhaps I am just too optimistic and naiive
!!!!!

: