some MVP's need to reset...

[john]

I can remember "back in my day" (pre Win95) when as an MVP, you were bound
by a certain code of conduct.

I was one of the lucky few on the basketball court back in 1995 in Redmond,
with Brad Silverman, when a new online support group was formed.
It was called ClubWin, and it was formed, among other things, in an effort
to try and "fix" what had gone awry with the recently formed MVP group.

We were told that zealots need not apply, and that flaming in any way would
not be tolerated.

Seems these lessons have not carried over.
This is in no way intended for ALL MVP's, but obviously some would benefit
from reading the basic rules of engagement, since you've never seen them.

from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs:
Q8: What does Microsoft expect of its MVPs?

A8: Because the MVP Award is an award-based program with criteria based on
past contributions, Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the
expectations of courtesy, professionalism, code of conduct and adherence to
the community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members. These
rules can be found on the Microsoft Communities code of conduct page.

 

[Alan]

Hello John,

I don't ask questions in the Vista group all that often. But I have read
many of the replies from the MVPs to those who do pose questions in here.

From the tone of their posts, it would seem that SOME MVPs are really burned
out, and should probably consider 'retiring.'

Alan

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Your initial reply to me in another post was anything but courteous.. you
were just plain rude and obnoxious.. in future, go tell it to the judge..
the only reason that I don't killfile you is because somebody else using the
name 'John' may have a legitimate problem, and I don't see why that person
should lose out because of your actions..

I can remember "back in my day" (pre Win95) when as an MVP, you were bound
by a certain code of conduct.

I was one of the lucky few on the basketball court back in 1995 in
Redmond, with Brad Silverman, when a new online support group was formed.
It was called ClubWin, and it was formed, among other things, in an effort
to try and "fix" what had gone awry with the recently formed MVP group.

We were told that zealots need not apply, and that flaming in any way
would not be tolerated.

Seems these lessons have not carried over.
This is in no way intended for ALL MVP's, but obviously some would benefit
from reading the basic rules of engagement, since you've never seen them.

from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs:
Q8: What does Microsoft expect of its MVPs?

A8: Because the MVP Award is an award-based program with criteria based on
past contributions, Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the
expectations of courtesy, professionalism, code of conduct and adherence
to the community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members.
These rules can be found on the Microsoft Communities code of conduct
page.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Tom Porterfield]

I can remember "back in my day" (pre Win95) when as an MVP, you were bound
by a certain code of conduct.

I was one of the lucky few on the basketball court back in 1995 in
Redmond, with Brad Silverman, when a new online support group was formed.
It was called ClubWin, and it was formed, among other things, in an effort
to try and "fix" what had gone awry with the recently formed MVP group.

We were told that zealots need not apply, and that flaming in any way
would not be tolerated.

Seems these lessons have not carried over.
This is in no way intended for ALL MVP's, but obviously some would benefit
from reading the basic rules of engagement, since you've never seen them.

from http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs:
Q8: What does Microsoft expect of its MVPs?

A8: Because the MVP Award is an award-based program with criteria based on
past contributions, Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the
expectations of courtesy, professionalism, code of conduct and adherence
to the community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members.
These rules can be found on the Microsoft Communities code of conduct
page.

Pot calling the kettle black here? Who is it that said the following:

"Thats it! MVPs are IDIOTS!

Didnt you ever suspect that kissing so much MSFT a** would rub off some of
the
sh** on your face?

Sorry for being insulting.. but man.. you are pathetic!"

http://groups.google.com/group/micr..._umsgid=e#[email protected]

 

[john]

different poster - just saw that myself..... was not me.

 

[Tom Porterfield]

different poster - just saw that myself..... was not me.

DOH! Sorry about that. Possibly that is what caused the confusion here for
others as well.

 

[john]

no problem - it happens

but I do want to thank Mike for proving my point.

 

[Adam Albright]

Your initial reply to me in another post was anything but courteous.. you
were just plain rude and obnoxious.. in future, go tell it to the judge..
the only reason that I don't killfile you is because somebody else using the
name 'John' may have a legitimate problem, and I don't see why that person
should lose out because of your actions..

You have a mighty high opinion of yourself don't ya Mike. How about
actually providing some help instead of just massaging that big fat
ego of yours.

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Apologies to you, Sir..

different poster - just saw that myself..... was not me.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Scott]

Your initial reply to me in another post was anything but courteous.. you
were just plain rude and obnoxious.. in future, go tell it to the judge..
the only reason that I don't killfile you is because somebody else using the
name 'John' may have a legitimate problem, and I don't see why that person
should lose out because of your actions..

So filter by email address then rather than by name.
--
Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Adam

Where have stated that I have a high onion of myself..

You have a mighty high opinion of yourself don't ya Mike. How about
actually providing some help instead of just massaging that big fat
ego of yours.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

darned spellchecker.. lololololol..

Adam

Where have stated that I have a high onion of myself..




--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Chris Jacobsen]

no problem - it happens

but I do want to thank Mike for proving my point.

Wow no kidding. Too bad it is not:

a) Unique to him
b) Unique to MVPs.

Most of the public groups have ended up as soapboxes for tirades or useless
drivel.

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

John

This is what I received from your namesake, and all I did was pass a
humorous comment..

"You smuck. not only do you ingore the truth, you also mock a person
who seems far mor intelligent as you!

Thats it! MVPs are IDIOTS!

Didnt you ever suspect that kissing so much MSFT a** would rub off some of
the
sh** on your face?

Sorry for being insulting.. but man.. you are pathetic!"

The guy can't even spell 'schmuck'..

This newsgroup will slowly fall to the level of the alt.windows newsgroups
where bad language and intolerable behavior by some is the norm..

Somebody suggested that I killfile e-mail addresses instead of names.. well
ok, except that (e-mail address removed) would take out many more
than just trolls.. the trolls often use fake ID.s and constant name changes
(not all, but some), making it very difficult to cut them out.. it is sad
when one has to check each ID for a name before replying, but that is how it
is turning out..

no problem - it happens

but I do want to thank Mike for proving my point.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Alias]

John

This is what I received from your namesake, and all I did was pass a
humorous comment..

"You smuck. not only do you ingore the truth, you also mock a person
who seems far mor intelligent as you!

Thats it! MVPs are IDIOTS!

Didnt you ever suspect that kissing so much MSFT a** would rub off some of
the
sh** on your face?

Sorry for being insulting.. but man.. you are pathetic!"

The guy can't even spell 'schmuck'..

Maybe he was peeling an onion.

Alias

 

[william.hooper]

I think I wrote a long and sensible opening message, and I don't use
this group that much or have any axe to grid except the pain of buying
two UK Vista Ultimates at 250 pounds each (1,000 dollars total),
having to fight to return them and seeing Windows go downhill... and,
Mike Hall, your 'humerous' reply was pretty rude. I had no idea you
actually worked at MSFT. he was right to call you an idiot but
obviously over-reacted with "so much MSFT a** would rub off some of
the sh** on your face"

 

[Adam Albright]

darned spellchecker.. lololololol..

I like onions. <wink>

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

especially fried..

I like onions. <wink>

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Well, I did not see it as rude.. sorry..

I think I wrote a long and sensible opening message, and I don't use
this group that much or have any axe to grid except the pain of buying
two UK Vista Ultimates at 250 pounds each (1,000 dollars total),
having to fight to return them and seeing Windows go downhill... and,
Mike Hall, your 'humerous' reply was pretty rude. I had no idea you
actually worked at MSFT. he was right to call you an idiot but
obviously over-reacted with "so much MSFT a** would rub off some of
the sh** on your face"

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Dustin Harper]

Of course, with a lot of people dissing Vista, and have issues but
blaming everything on Microsoft. And talking crap about MVP's that are
trying to help, but people blaming them and saying they work for MS...
Sure, a few have some rotten attitudes, but some of them genuinely want
to help.