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Pieter
Brad Rogers said:
Now it's all clear to me why you are convinced that Visual Studio .NET 2005
is a great product :-D
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Now it's all clear to me why you are convinced that Visual Studio .NET 2005
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Paul Clement
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¤ ¤
¤ > Yeah, but comments regarding what exactly? Examples would certainly help.
¤ > ;-)
¤
¤ Every time I fire up the environment it asks me to register, again,
¤ promising benefits. If I do register - again - I get yet another thank you
¤ email which points me to a webpage which seems to be totally irrelevant to
¤ VB .Net but I cannot get any of the promised benefits. And so it goes.
I wasn't able to reproduce this problem. Did you enter the registration ID (in VB 2005 Express)
provided during registration of the product?
Any chance you had a beta version of the product installed at some point?
Paul
~~~~
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
¤ ¤
¤ > Yeah, but comments regarding what exactly? Examples would certainly help.
¤ > ;-)
¤
¤ Every time I fire up the environment it asks me to register, again,
¤ promising benefits. If I do register - again - I get yet another thank you
¤ email which points me to a webpage which seems to be totally irrelevant to
¤ VB .Net but I cannot get any of the promised benefits. And so it goes.
I wasn't able to reproduce this problem. Did you enter the registration ID (in VB 2005 Express)
provided during registration of the product?
Any chance you had a beta version of the product installed at some point?
Paul
~~~~
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
P
Paul Clement
¤
¤ ¤
¤ > Yeah, but comments regarding what exactly? Examples would certainly help.
¤ > ;-)
¤
¤ I downloaded "Microsoft Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition - Build a Program
¤ Now!.pdf"
¤
¤ Throughout this book there are many links to websites with more
¤ information - except they aren't links and you can't click on them. So OK,
¤ I'll cut and paste the link text into the browser - except the whole book
¤ has been created in some perverse version of Unicode and you can't cut and
¤ paste it. And the same applies to the code samples in the book. Come on, who
¤ thought this was a good idea? What was the point?
¤
¤ YAB (Yet Another Bug)
Don't know anything about this eBook - it's not included with Visual Basic 2005 Express.
Paul
~~~~
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
¤ ¤
¤ > Yeah, but comments regarding what exactly? Examples would certainly help.
¤ > ;-)
¤
¤ I downloaded "Microsoft Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition - Build a Program
¤ Now!.pdf"
¤
¤ Throughout this book there are many links to websites with more
¤ information - except they aren't links and you can't click on them. So OK,
¤ I'll cut and paste the link text into the browser - except the whole book
¤ has been created in some perverse version of Unicode and you can't cut and
¤ paste it. And the same applies to the code samples in the book. Come on, who
¤ thought this was a good idea? What was the point?
¤
¤ YAB (Yet Another Bug)
Don't know anything about this eBook - it's not included with Visual Basic 2005 Express.
Paul
~~~~
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
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Brad Rogers
Yes I have VS2005 beta2 and notice the text on the main page has a problem,
there is a scroll kind of box on the right side, text is blanked out
depending on some random thing, scroll up/down to try and get text back
I had sample code trying to load, it said it must convert the file to
something to use on VS2005 so I click yes, it does something then says
error, cant open file and my VS2003 cant open it either
So there were some problems, but first I suspect operator error. Im hoping
to have time to really drive VS2005 around the block a few times, meanwhile
Im SURE that all you smart folks who find any bugs or issues are writing
them up with details on how to reproduce the problem and sending them to the
bug report email, right??
Its one thing to expect a "hello world" program to run correct the first
time, thats only what, a few thousand lines of ASM code?
But a massive enterprise like VS2005, who expects it to be bug free the
first time???? Its so big if it was spread out it would stretch from New
York to Los Angeles, thats VERY big. Its not going to be bug free. Who
expects their code that took 2 weeks to develop to be bug free?
Its in Beta form because... help me out here...
there is a scroll kind of box on the right side, text is blanked out
depending on some random thing, scroll up/down to try and get text back
I had sample code trying to load, it said it must convert the file to
something to use on VS2005 so I click yes, it does something then says
error, cant open file and my VS2003 cant open it either
So there were some problems, but first I suspect operator error. Im hoping
to have time to really drive VS2005 around the block a few times, meanwhile
Im SURE that all you smart folks who find any bugs or issues are writing
them up with details on how to reproduce the problem and sending them to the
bug report email, right??
Its one thing to expect a "hello world" program to run correct the first
time, thats only what, a few thousand lines of ASM code?
But a massive enterprise like VS2005, who expects it to be bug free the
first time???? Its so big if it was spread out it would stretch from New
York to Los Angeles, thats VERY big. Its not going to be bug free. Who
expects their code that took 2 weeks to develop to be bug free?
Its in Beta form because... help me out here...
B
Brad Rogers
Fine, you just get upset because you didnt realize pres Bush is good as a
Visual Studio programmer?
Visual Studio programmer?
H
Homer J Simpson
I wasn't able to reproduce this problem. Did you enter the registration ID
(in VB 2005 Express)
provided during registration of the product?
Any chance you had a beta version of the product installed at some point?
I ran the purge software to remove all betas. I do still have the VBNet 2003
Standard installed.
However I did finally get the promised benefits. Still, I found the support
to be less than well implemented. I still am not sure about the product
itself.
H
Homer J Simpson
Paul Clement said:¤
message
¤ ¤
¤ > Yeah, but comments regarding what exactly? Examples would certainly
help.
¤ > ;-)
¤
¤ I downloaded "Microsoft Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition - Build a
Program
¤ Now!.pdf"
¤
¤ Throughout this book there are many links to websites with more
¤ information - except they aren't links and you can't click on them. So
OK,
¤ I'll cut and paste the link text into the browser - except the whole
book
¤ has been created in some perverse version of Unicode and you can't cut
and
¤ paste it. And the same applies to the code samples in the book. Come on,
who
¤ thought this was a good idea? What was the point?
¤
¤ YAB (Yet Another Bug)
Don't know anything about this eBook - it's not included with Visual Basic
2005 Express.
It's a free download. The free eBook "Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2005
Express Edition - Build a Web Site Now!" has the same problem - ironically.
IIRC the C# book was OK.
P
Pieter
Brad Rogers said:Yes I have VS2005 beta2 and notice the text on the main page has a
problem,
[...]
Its in Beta form because... help me out here...
Just for your info:
- I used the Beta 1 (more than one year ago) and it wasn't too bad
- Beta 2 was worse
- the Release is almost as bad as the Beta 2: you can't make a normal
application (a bit more than the Hello World) without having problems with
the Visual Studio...
It's jsut not normal that a program that has been hyped a lot, has been in
Beta for more than a year, is still such a pain in the ass. I never had any
problems with VS.NET 2003, but 2005 daily...
H
Homer J Simpson
Just for your info:
- I used the Beta 1 (more than one year ago) and it wasn't too bad
- Beta 2 was worse
- the Release is almost as bad as the Beta 2: you can't make a normal
application (a bit more than the Hello World) without having problems with
the Visual Studio...
It's jsut not normal that a program that has been hyped a lot, has been in
Beta for more than a year, is still such a pain in the ass. I never had
any problems with VS.NET 2003, but 2005 daily...
I do note that the 2005 seems to be more than a little different from the
2005.
T
Timmah
As with Clinton, love him or hate him, you have to admit he's told a few
fibs and, more often, - put some wonderfully crafted, deliberately
misleading, spin on things.
Since you asked for an example, here's one that springs to mind:
Bush:
"The vast majority of my tax cuts will go to the bottom end of the
spectrum"
Analysis:
42.6% went to the top 1% and over 60% to the top 12.6%.
I don't see how that isn't a lie - or does it all boil down to your
definition of majority? Anyway, if you want more, may I suggest:
http://www.bushlies.net/pages/10/index.htm
- as a source for more lies for you to debunk.
http://www.bushlies.com/
- as a late Christmas present.
And
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4
as a good place as any to continue the rants.
fibs and, more often, - put some wonderfully crafted, deliberately
misleading, spin on things.
Since you asked for an example, here's one that springs to mind:
Bush:
"The vast majority of my tax cuts will go to the bottom end of the
spectrum"
Analysis:
42.6% went to the top 1% and over 60% to the top 12.6%.
I don't see how that isn't a lie - or does it all boil down to your
definition of majority? Anyway, if you want more, may I suggest:
http://www.bushlies.net/pages/10/index.htm
- as a source for more lies for you to debunk.
http://www.bushlies.com/
- as a late Christmas present.
And
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4
as a good place as any to continue the rants.
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