That's just more disingenuous commentary from you.
The left and right both lie. Politicos from both sides mistreat their
constituents to put it mildly. Clinton lied, and whether you are
intellectually honest enough to accept it or not, Bush lies too.
You accuse me of not being "candid"? not being honest? But aside from me,
you have asserted Bush "might" lie? Or DOES lie? If you assert with no doubt
Bush lies? Then you are required to. PROVE IT! Others such as myself take
such accusations very seriously, and would ADMIT any such lies, if they
existed.
To then accuse me and other honest people of being dishonest because we
"wont admit" Bush told lies as president? Youre also adding all mainstream
Jewish and Christian religious leaders who exemplify honesty. To show how
extensive your claim of "Bush lied" reaches? It locks in anyone who claims
to be honest being duty-bound to admit the truth, so anyone who partakes of
the lie is also dishonest. The 'religious right' and 'Christian
conservatives' typical of Pat Robertson? Are not openly, publicly calling
for Bush to apologize for being a liar. Why not? Maybe the truth is Bush and
VP Cheney have not lied? Now I really don't follow news stories or the
latest books. On 911, my opinion was that military action was needed, Bush
led the military and now in 2005/6 we have the leftist media trying to tell
me that they want to revise and extend their remarks from around 2001? And
the start of the war in 2003?? No way, I followed the war then because it
was important. What the left is saying today is not what happened a couple
years ago.
I find him
to be singlehandedly the most dishonest president in my lifetime-- which is
saying something considering Johnson, Nixon and Clinton's records of
dishonor.
Johnson was a good "president" who would have went to war with Iraq. Kennedy
was the crook, protected by the leftist media, whom Clinton idolized. Nixon,
now that the swifties exposed Kerry and the left of lying about Vietnam? I
also believe the left has lied about Nixon with empty accusations.
a.. > I see you have been brainwashed by the right into thinking it is
unacceptable to "criticize a president during wartime". That is utter
claptrap. If anything, that is when a president should be held MOST
accountable, and that includes criticism that you arbitrarily deride as
"mockery".
b..
c.. Brainwashed? You wish. I didn't say criticize, did I? Without even
looking, I probably wrote slandered or libeled the president, which isnt the
same. Criticism helps find solutions and its my belief that criticizing the
president, or Microsoft brings about realization which leads to progress.
d..
e..
f.. Your comments about the left wanting "America to lose" are
delusional. An objective person would know better than to entertain such
useless hyperbole.
g..
h.. Don't say its useless hyperbole, because it's the absolute truth. Ive
watched parts of Secy of defense Rumsfeld make a speech, then hours later
hear nbc report on what he said? They misquote him. Then I noticed
something, the leftist media interviews democrats. They then accuse
republicans and get only them saying "Im innocent" then the reporter
finishes by paraphrasing what the republican said, twisting it to imply
guilt. They do this with everyone, interview the left, take a snippet of the
right then add accusations and innuendo. Very clever method to brainwash
people into hating Bush.
That's kind of advanced analysis, I evaluate code in detail and am careful
not to. ASSUME ANYTHING?!? So I apply similar standards.
a..
b.. people on the left are as human as you Brad-- they just
have differing opinions based on the same reality to which you are exposed.
Their filters work differently than your rightward ones. And though they
are as misguided as you, they (and you) are still thinking, feeling humans
and thus deserved of respect for that alone at the very least. Your wanton
demonizing is naive serves no valid purpose.
c..
d..
e.. What demonizing? This is a perfect example, I have never called the
person names. I reserve the right to disagree with what a person SAYS?? But
do not aspersionalize the person themselves. The left typically makes horrid
and groundless accusations like Bush lied about the war, and when people say
there was no lie, prove it? The response is: oh, we cant disagree or we are
called traitors, you idiots on the right, youre insane, youre stupid, youre
cavemen, youre monkeys.
f..
g..
If you actually were "all about facts", you would be willing to face the
facts about Bush that easily contradict your brainwashing. Instead, your
talk is cheap.
h..
i..
j.. Yes, I want to know if Bush lied so I can point it out to everyone.
When I find Bush hasn't lied?? I point out people like Franken, Moore, Corn
and others have the burden to apologize. Franken was ripped apart by
conservatives and exposed as a liar, it was on foxnews (the only news outlet
that lets conservatives speak) and Frankens errors were made public, I don't
know them maybe Rush Limbaugh or other famous people do. Moore? He isnt in
the news as much after being called a fraud and liar by Dick Morris, former
Clinton advisor?? Former democrat??
a.. You want something of those you oppose that you are not
willing to provide yourself. Pure partisan drivel. You are as bad as
those
b..
c.. Im not sure who you've spoken to in the past, but I wont waste time on
'drivel' or 'bologna'. I have respect for Bush who led the military into war
to protect the nation, and what does the left say?? We are losing, its
another Vietnam, it's a quagmire, we cant win, everything that's negative?
That's what the left puts in the news. I hear soldiers who complain that
what happens in Iraq is progress, but the news only shows or makes up
negative things?? That's reality, soldiers there who are saying NO!! the
networks are lying, they have some agenda. I point that out without
mentioning the soldiers and you essentially call me a liar.
d..
e.. The left talks about how many soldiers are killed in Iraq, as if when
they get to some number they can start impeachment proceedings, they
disrespect the soldiers and their deaths and that upsets me and every
rational person with friends and family in the military. The economy gets
better? Some democrat goes on tv and says the economy is the worst its ever
been, its just like 1929.
f..
g.. So who should seek intellectual honesty? Randall?? I think you and the
mainstream left who try to find errors where none exist.
h..
i..
about whom you complain, whether the subject be Bush, Microsoft or whomever.
Your defenses are admirable in their tenacity, but pathetic in their content
and motivation.
j..
k..
l.. Pathetic?? Being honest and defending the truth is pathetic to you?
Defending America is pathetic to you? Wanting freedom and democracy in the
middle east and making the world safer is pathetic to you? Randall you
should be honest and just admit republicans have better ideas and run the
nation and economy better. All the harping on lies or failures? Are just a
pathetic attempt to tell the American voting public: "we democrats don't
have ideas. But vote for us because the nation is so messed up and Bush
lied"
m..
n.. Oh everyone lies?? No Randall not everyone lies. Some of us have
standards and find lying morally reprehensible. Bush has not lied in office.
Be honest and admit that.
o..
p.. Can you point to anything the left media does or says about the nation
that is positive? Hopeful? Inspiring? NO!! NEVER! Its always doom and gloom.
